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Andrew Solender
@AndrewSolender
NEW: Joe Manchin says he would NOT be willing to nuke the filibuster even if Republicans use it to block the Jan. 6 commission. I cant take the fallout, he told us, laughing loudly.
9:41 AM · May 25, 2021 from Washington, DC
hatrack
(59,587 posts)Fuck. That. Guy.
aocommunalpunch
(4,241 posts)Welcome to the minority.
Faux pas
(14,682 posts)Ace Rothstein
(3,164 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)The wrong kind in my book!
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,292 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Which, of course, Manchin opposes.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)budkin
(6,703 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)1) Why are you against the commission?
2) If the answer to (1) is "I'm not," then which Republicans have you brought on board to vote for it? How many?
Johonny
(20,854 posts)I'm fine if he can't destroy the rules, but is he willing to bend the rules to get America back on track? In the end, it's not about him. It's about us.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)dalton99a
(81,526 posts)and most of all the feelings of their leader Donald Trump
Walleye
(31,028 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)And other democracy-hesitant Dem senators to kill the filibuster, watch this video from Crooked Media (former Obama staffers):
Fullduplexxx
(7,866 posts)tritsofme
(17,380 posts)wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)If we leave him alone, he'll leave us fucked in the next election. Better to squeeze him now than pay later.
tritsofme
(17,380 posts)wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)While he fucks us? You really want another Joe Lieberman?
tritsofme
(17,380 posts)Schumer just cant boot Manchin off of committees or strip him of a chairmanship by fiat, the whole Senate would need to pass a new organizing resolution. This is normally a perfunctory task, but Republicans could deny cloture to the new resolution, and Manchin has no incentive to be an instrument in his own punishment.
Further, if Democrats really tried to move forward, Manchin could simply flip to the Republicans, where McConnell would surely promise him that chairmanship or whatever else he wanted.
Democrats have no leverage, we simply need to live with Manchin and convince him where we can, but ultimately we just need a bigger majority.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)tritsofme
(17,380 posts)wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)After Schumer threatened to take away his committee assignments and sideline him. So don't pretend Schumer and the rest of the Democratic leadership has no leverage.
tritsofme
(17,380 posts)Not sure if you are disputing anything I said regarding process?
Franken did not hold the balance of power in the Senate.
Schumer has no leverage over Manchin because he has the power to end the Democratic majority at a whim. And as I explained, Schumer literally cannot strip Manchin of his committees without the consent of Republicans, and Manchin himself.
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)All of the leverage here is Manchin's
If Schumer threatens to remove his committee assignments, McConnell will happily give them right back (while removing every Democratic committee chairman assignment).
Blue Owl
(50,439 posts)What a stupid fuck...
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)on Chris Cuomo's show.
He didn't have any rational defense for his position, for the utility of the filibuster, anything. He was vague and inchoate.
It boils down to 1 thing he won't say out loud: Dems need the Filibuster for when the GOP gets the Senate back. They're operating from fear.
budkin
(6,703 posts)Let's see what twisted logic ya'll can come up with!
Colgate 64
(14,732 posts)Sunsky
(1,737 posts)So that his DINO a** can go sit in the corner. I am tired of Joe Manchin.