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JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:47 PM May 2021

Immunity to the Coronavirus May Persist for Years, Scientists Find

Immunity to the coronavirus lasts at least a year, possibly a lifetime, improving over time especially after vaccination, according to two new studies. The findings may help put to rest lingering fears that protection against the virus will be short-lived.

Together, the studies suggest that most people who have recovered from Covid-19 and who were later immunized will not need boosters. Vaccinated people who were never infected most likely will need the shots, however, as will a minority who were infected but did not produce a robust immune response.

Both reports looked at people who had been exposed to the coronavirus about a year earlier. Cells that retain a memory of the virus persist in the bone marrow and may churn out antibodies whenever needed, according to one of the studies, published on Monday in the journal Nature.

The other study, which is also under review for publication in Nature, found that these so-called memory B cells continue to mature and strengthen for at least 12 months after the initial infection. “The papers are consistent with the growing body of literature that suggests that immunity elicited by infection and vaccination for SARS-CoV-2 appears to be long-lived,” said Scott Hensley, an immunologist at the University of Pennsylvania who was not involved in the research.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/26/health/coronavirus-immunity-vaccines.html

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Immunity to the Coronavirus May Persist for Years, Scientists Find (Original Post) JoanofArgh May 2021 OP
B cells rock! Cracklin Charlie May 2021 #1
This should be a lead story in every newscast tonight Johnny2X2X May 2021 #2
Not with that title it shouldn't. Too many people won't hear that they'll still need a booster. pnwmom May 2021 #9
I Agree, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2021 #14
I was down sick with COVID for 3 months & I was vaccinated afterward. CaptainTruth May 2021 #3
3 months! that's brutal barbtries May 2021 #13
Between the previously infected and the vaccinated, we have a good number with immunity. Ace Rothstein May 2021 #4
Fully vaccinated are at 50% stopdiggin May 2021 #6
Yes but this also includes those previously infected. Ace Rothstein May 2021 #8
I always thought the folks qazplm135 May 2021 #5
So, just to be clear, people who had covid, recovered, and wnylib May 2021 #7
Thanks. Too many people here didn't bother to read past the headline. nt pnwmom May 2021 #10
I figured as much after reading their posts. wnylib May 2021 #15
I just want my new mutant powers to be cool/useful... (talking to you Longneck from the X-Men..). nt Carlitos Brigante May 2021 #11
So my friend Sandy will be able to forego her covid shots. barbtries May 2021 #12
Sandy will not need booster shots if she has wnylib May 2021 #16
yes, she's had both. barbtries May 2021 #17
Good. At least some good comes out of it for her. wnylib May 2021 #20
This article doesn't say anyone should forgo covid shots, even people who had an infection. pnwmom May 2021 #19
i read the article. barbtries May 2021 #22
Science, Fuck yeah! NightWatcher May 2021 #18
Where there is a "may" there is a "may not". Midnight Writer May 2021 #21
Yes. Both. Which makes me wonder how the combo of the two is so much more effective. NH Ethylene May 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver May 2021 #24

Johnny2X2X

(19,134 posts)
2. This should be a lead story in every newscast tonight
Wed May 26, 2021, 02:05 PM
May 2021

This is massive news! This is great! This is the biggest Covid story in months.

pnwmom

(108,997 posts)
9. Not with that title it shouldn't. Too many people won't hear that they'll still need a booster.
Wed May 26, 2021, 03:55 PM
May 2021
Together, the studies suggest that most people who have recovered from Covid-19 and who were later immunized will not need boosters. Vaccinated people who were never infected most likely will need the shots, however, as will a minority who were infected but did not produce a robust immune response.

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
14. I Agree, Ma'am
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:43 PM
May 2021

The headline does a disservice to the research.

This kind of sloppy journalism drives a good deal of popular disdain for science.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
13. 3 months! that's brutal
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:43 PM
May 2021

so glad you've recovered, and it appears you need not worry about re-infection.

Ace Rothstein

(3,187 posts)
4. Between the previously infected and the vaccinated, we have a good number with immunity.
Wed May 26, 2021, 02:44 PM
May 2021

Of course there is some overlap there but there just aren't enough hosts left for this to keep spreading on a widespread scale.

stopdiggin

(11,382 posts)
6. Fully vaccinated are at 50%
Wed May 26, 2021, 03:03 PM
May 2021

Don't get me wrong, that is certainly helping, but ...
That large pool of intractable "Nos" are still with us.
Sigh.
This would be sooooo much better if our political leaders -- hadn't done so much initial damage.

Ace Rothstein

(3,187 posts)
8. Yes but this also includes those previously infected.
Wed May 26, 2021, 03:23 PM
May 2021

The CDC estimates that number may be over 100 million infections at this point. There is likely a lot of crossover between previously infected and hard no on vaccinations due to how their behavior during the pandemic.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
5. I always thought the folks
Wed May 26, 2021, 02:59 PM
May 2021

who were arguing that COVID would be with us forever were being overwrought. That's why vaccination was and is so important. We can beat this thing dead.

wnylib

(21,624 posts)
7. So, just to be clear, people who had covid, recovered, and
Wed May 26, 2021, 03:19 PM
May 2021

and then got vaccinated, will have long term immunity to all forms of the virus.

But, people who are vaccinated but never had covid will NOT have that long term immunity to all forms of the virus. They will need to have booster shots.

The good news is for those who have had both the infection and the shots. It does not apply to people who have had the shots but not the infection.

wnylib

(21,624 posts)
15. I figured as much after reading their posts.
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:47 PM
May 2021

That's why I clarified it.

But, for eventual herd immunity, it is good news. I do wonder, though, about the article's emphasis on the immunity for people who have had covid since there are cases of reinfection after recovering from covid.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
12. So my friend Sandy will be able to forego her covid shots.
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:41 PM
May 2021

that's wonderful for her.

Still glad i never got it. high vulnerability, multiple comorbidities...it might have killed me for real. I'll get the shot when they tell me to from here on out.

this is good news.

wnylib

(21,624 posts)
16. Sandy will not need booster shots if she has
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:51 PM
May 2021

had covid AND vaccinations. But if she only had covid and no vaccination yet, she should get the vaccine to develop the long term immunity that the article mentions.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
17. yes, she's had both.
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:52 PM
May 2021

i've only had the vaccination, but she did get COVID. fortunately a mild case.

wnylib

(21,624 posts)
20. Good. At least some good comes out of it for her.
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:58 PM
May 2021

I'm with you on being glad that I didn't get it since I also have health issues that would have made it serious for me.

pnwmom

(108,997 posts)
19. This article doesn't say anyone should forgo covid shots, even people who had an infection.
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:55 PM
May 2021
Together, the studies suggest that most people who have recovered from Covid-19 and who were later immunized will not need boosters. Vaccinated people who were never infected most likely will need the shots, however, as will a minority who were infected but did not produce a robust immune response.


Your friend who had Covid might not need further boosters if she was ALSO IMMUNIZED. However, since she had a mild case, she might fall into the "minority who were infected but did not produce a robust immune response." In that case, she'd need to be fully vaccinated PLUS might need a booster in the future, like the rest of us.

Midnight Writer

(21,812 posts)
21. Where there is a "may" there is a "may not".
Wed May 26, 2021, 05:40 PM
May 2021

I read "may", "possibly", "most people", "most likely", "suggests", "appears to be".

Correct me if I am wrong, but are there not documented cases of re-infection and of people infected after their vaccination?

NH Ethylene

(30,817 posts)
23. Yes. Both. Which makes me wonder how the combo of the two is so much more effective.
Thu May 27, 2021, 11:26 AM
May 2021

Like all the Covid info that is released, it is subject to complete reversal if one or two contradictory studies come out.

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