America's a sick nation.

[Cattledog]

Guns have stolen our soul.

[3catwoman3]

1. I agree.

[Amishman]

2. They're a problem, but even more so a symptom of a much greater problem

We are filled with hopeless, ignorant, hate filled, unstable people. Guns let them do a lot more damage.

Our crumbling healthcare and education systems, divided and broken culture, and lack of opportunity have us socially broken and diseased in a way that is far greater than the stupefying overabundance of dangerous hunks of metal.

[miyazaki]

7. Apt words. nt

[SoCalDavidS]

3. We're A Pathetic Country, And I Wish I Were Able To Go Elsewhere

I'm frankly embarrassed on a minute by minute basis living here.

Were my parents not both still alive, I'd seriously consider moving elsewhere. Denmark is high on my list.

America is what it is. I don't see it ever changing, at least not in my lifetime, that's for certain.

[EX500rider]

4. Almost a 100 countries have a higher homicide rate then the US, are they all sick nations also?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

[SoonerPride]

5. Yes they are sick. And none are first world countries either.

They are all African, Central American, S American, and Caribbean nations. 2nd and 3rd world places.

We are not a civilized country by any stretch of the imagination.

We are as sick and fucked up as tiny despotic poor countries with no law and terrible rampant corruption.

Thanks for the link.

[ChubbyStar]

6. Thank you for this post

[EX500rider]

9. Actually most people consider places like

Costa Rica, the Bahamas and Jamaica as idyllic vacation paradise's, not tiny despotic little countries as you say.

[ProfessorPlum]

10. Jamaica?

really?

[EX500rider]

14. Are you saying people don't go to vacation in Jamaica?

[ProfessorPlum]

16. I've been to vacation in Jamaica, and while it was physically beautiful

I would never consider it "idyllic" in human or political terms

[EX500rider]

18. How about Costa Rica?

Their homicide rate is double the US

[tenderfoot]

12. Are you telling us that you're fine with the way things are in the USA?

eom

[EX500rider]

13. Fairly broad question

But the homicide rate is better than almost 100 other countries so certainly not out of control

[Elessar Zappa]

22. We have the highest murder rate for developed countries.

Most of Europe is far less violent as is Japan and South Korea.

[EX500rider]

24. If you cherry pick which European states yes..

..I can do that for the US also, Vermont's rate is 1.8

Europe's overall rate is 3.0
The US overall rate is 4.9
Considering the bad countries have a rate of around 50 the US is much closer to the European rate.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

[brush]

8. Yep. Sick, sick, sick. And if it's not fixed it'll be the end.

Soon there will be one mass shooting or more a day...it's almost that now as there are multiple ones every week.

When it gets to be that people are scared go out unless they're packing too and ready to use it, we're done as a civilized nation.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

11. Might be more accurate to say guns, greed and gods.

KY........

[spanone]

17. ...and republicons are stealing our votes.

[bdamomma]

21. stealing votes

because they did not win, and now screwing the whole country up because they did not get their way.

They know they would never get voted in again, arrogant and ignorant they will always be. Just scoundrels.

[EX500rider]

19. I don't think owning firearms makes anyone or any country sick.

Lots of people enjoy target shooting and hunting including many Democratic voters and Presidents. Other people live in high crime areas and want options to protect their family.

Committing homicides with a firearm makes that individual a sick person but no one else, I don't go in for group guilt for other people actions and in a nation of 328 million 14,000 firearm homicides isn't a very big number. Almost 3 times more people die just accidentally falling down (39,433), almost 5 times as many die accidentally poisoning themselves (65,773) and I bet your aren't afraid of either of those things happening to you and are calling for ladder reform or new labels on things under your sink or in your medicine cabinet.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm

President Obama:

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[Bullfeathers]

23. I should have read

your post first .

[Bullfeathers]

20. I don't carry but

most people I know do including my son. They are not sick in fact they seem well adjusted. Those who kill randomly definitely have issues but they are few and we should focus more on helping them.

[YMB]

25. Unless you you want to go down the

"America was always sick route" i not sure how you can throw it all on guns. The US has always had guns, theyve always been fairly easy to get, even easier before the 1936 laws. Yet weve only really seen a noticeably higher uptick of misuse of them in the last 25 years which indicates something else is going on. Even then you are looking at 400+ million guns, 100+ million owners (10+ million NEW OWNERS just in the last year) and yet when you get down to it maybe .01% of the gun owning population tends to do something nefarious with them. If guns were THE problem then the US would cease to exist, we would be living in a Mad Max style apocalypse now.