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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsManchin & Sinema hold the keys to keeping or losing our democracy.
Its that dire.
The new voter suppression laws in many states (especially those that give power to state legislatures to oversee elections) are the entire ballgame.
The only way to stop those new state laws is with new federal laws that vacate them.
And the only way to get those new federal laws is to end the filibuster.
So, Manchin and Sinema change their positions on the filibuster or its over and democracy will die and a full out autocracy will take over.
Dave says
(4,618 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,879 posts)SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)We lost that years ago. We're just moving further away from it with each passing minute.
There's nothing much left to save at this point unfortunately. It's the path we've chosen as a pathetic nation.
zaj
(3,433 posts)I get cynicism, but this is extremely dangerous
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Your negativity is pathetic
PortTack
(32,778 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(3,492 posts)Theyve played it expertly and ruthlessly.
And dont think for a second that they wont get rid of the filibuster the second they get control next time.
Funtatlaguy
(10,879 posts)vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Which the opposition always seem to lose.
Johonny
(20,851 posts)They've already got rid of it for the long game things they want. The filibuster exists to prevent progressive society building programs. Since they don't want them, they have no real need to remove it. They can pass all the judges, tax cuts and other financial matters they want with no filibuster. They gamed the system perfectly already.
tirebiter
(2,538 posts)Where are the demonstraters?
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)simply a small voice off in the wilderness.
The 75 million who voted for the fatass are the problem they are a huge cauldron of stupidity that we can't control. They don't reason and they don't listen.
We have a much bigger job than just pushing two Senators-- we have to demonstrate proper government and get more decent people elected. If we can't do that, do we deserve the country?
empedocles
(15,751 posts)some DUer's so thoroughly . . .
Hmmmm.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,624 posts)Watch video from Crooked Media (former Obama staffers) for info on how to bring pressure on J.C. Joe, Sinema, and any other democracy-hesitant senators who are waffling on killing the filibuster in order to pass HR1:
Funtatlaguy
(10,879 posts)Carlitos Brigante
(26,501 posts)more important.
Funtatlaguy
(10,879 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)CA, NY and many others will leave.
This how THEY will preserve democracy.