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Funtatlaguy

(10,879 posts)
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:04 PM May 2021

Manchin & Sinema hold the keys to keeping or losing our democracy.

It’s that dire.
The new voter suppression laws in many states (especially those that give power to state legislatures to oversee elections) are the entire ballgame.
The only way to stop those new state laws is with new federal laws that vacate them.
And the only way to get those new federal laws is to end the filibuster.
So, Manchin and Sinema change their positions on the filibuster or it’s over and democracy will die and a full out autocracy will take over.

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Manchin & Sinema hold the keys to keeping or losing our democracy. (Original Post) Funtatlaguy May 2021 OP
O great. That inspires confidence. Dave says May 2021 #1
It should inspire doing anything (including bribery) to change their minds. Funtatlaguy May 2021 #3
What Democracy? SoCalDavidS May 2021 #2
This is toxic zaj May 2021 #5
That's just not true. If it were Trump would be President redstateblues May 2021 #10
Exactly..I will rail against anyone that peddles a different line PortTack May 2021 #12
The right has won the long game. BlueTsunami2018 May 2021 #4
Exactly. McConnell can't wait to do so just like he hijacked the SCOTUS. Funtatlaguy May 2021 #6
Long game is the civil war that breaks out vercetti2021 May 2021 #8
I don't think they will, as it's gone for the things they want to do already Johonny May 2021 #14
Mask time is over tirebiter May 2021 #7
Why pin the blame on those two? If we had a healthy society, the right wing would be... TreasonousBastard May 2021 #9
Hmmm. Those 2 Senators may now have some use . . . the same 2 Senators that empedocles May 2021 #11
Here is info for anyone wanting to do something about it... Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #13
This is Sooooooo Awesome 👏 thank you. Funtatlaguy May 2021 #15
They really seem to think their egos and silly ass branding exercises are Carlitos Brigante May 2021 #16
Maybe the Jan 6 commission filibuster will influence Manchin? Funtatlaguy May 2021 #17
Repukes stealing 2024 equals secession of many blue states. roamer65 May 2021 #18

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
2. What Democracy?
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:07 PM
May 2021

We lost that years ago. We're just moving further away from it with each passing minute.

There's nothing much left to save at this point unfortunately. It's the path we've chosen as a pathetic nation.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)
4. The right has won the long game.
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:14 PM
May 2021

They’ve played it expertly and ruthlessly.

And don’t think for a second that they won’t get rid of the filibuster the second they get control next time.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
14. I don't think they will, as it's gone for the things they want to do already
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:46 PM
May 2021

They've already got rid of it for the long game things they want. The filibuster exists to prevent progressive society building programs. Since they don't want them, they have no real need to remove it. They can pass all the judges, tax cuts and other financial matters they want with no filibuster. They gamed the system perfectly already.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
9. Why pin the blame on those two? If we had a healthy society, the right wing would be...
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:36 PM
May 2021

simply a small voice off in the wilderness.

The 75 million who voted for the fatass are the problem they are a huge cauldron of stupidity that we can't control. They don't reason and they don't listen.

We have a much bigger job than just pushing two Senators-- we have to demonstrate proper government and get more decent people elected. If we can't do that, do we deserve the country?

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
11. Hmmm. Those 2 Senators may now have some use . . . the same 2 Senators that
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:03 PM
May 2021

some DUer's so thoroughly . . .


Hmmmm.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,624 posts)
13. Here is info for anyone wanting to do something about it...
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:43 PM
May 2021

Watch video from Crooked Media (former Obama staffers) for info on how to bring pressure on J.C. Joe, Sinema, and any other democracy-hesitant senators who are waffling on killing the filibuster in order to pass HR1:

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
18. Repukes stealing 2024 equals secession of many blue states.
Thu May 27, 2021, 06:28 PM
May 2021

CA, NY and many others will leave.

This how THEY will preserve democracy.

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