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The Breaking News on Rachel re Big Oil is huge (Original Post) malaise May 2021 OP
It is very inconvient for the global Oil-igharcs. ShazamIam May 2021 #1
A Dutch court today ruled that Royal Dutch Shell has to cut CO2 emissions 45 pct by 2030. roamer65 May 2021 #2
Is that really enough? dchill May 2021 #5
It's a start malaise May 2021 #12
As you say, or yet another step before, let's hope, a trot or even gallop. Hortensis May 2021 #22
I was trying to find a link with all three last night malaise May 2021 #13
I hope the oil companies have to break their banks to pay for this. flying_wahini May 2021 #3
You do realize that the cost of said restitution will just be passed on to the consumer Ferrets are Cool May 2021 #4
We pay anyway w externalities mahina May 2021 #7
And that will continue. Ferrets are Cool May 2021 #21
Count the costs of climate change damage and health costs and the impoverishment of the many ShazamIam May 2021 #8
Yup, and we can now please Please PLEASE stop oil company subsidies!!! They made billions mitch96 May 2021 #19
This Ferrets are Cool May 2021 #20
How long will it take before the Reichwing begins characterizing yonder May 2021 #6
It's too... Snackshack May 2021 #9
It was jaw-dropping Hekate May 2021 #10
Agree malaise May 2021 #17
We are going to see rapid change NJCher May 2021 #11
It figures that much of the impetus comes from the Netherlands DFW May 2021 #14
Here's the video: Rhiannon12866 May 2021 #15
Good morning Rhiannon12866 - You're the best malaise May 2021 #16
Awww, thanks! Rhiannon12866 May 2021 #18

ShazamIam

(2,575 posts)
1. It is very inconvient for the global Oil-igharcs.
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:09 PM
May 2021

And especially tough since it was discovered they knew what damage was occurring and lied about it, under oath.

malaise

(269,063 posts)
12. It's a start
Thu May 27, 2021, 05:25 AM
May 2021

Indeed the ruling re Shell came first yesterday.

https://reneweconomy.com.au/shell-exxon-and-chevron-stunned-by-courts-and-shareholders-in-climate-blitz/

The headline alone speaks volumes
Shell, Exxon and Chevron stunned by courts and shareholders in climate blitz
https://reneweconomy.com.au/shell-exxon-and-chevron-stunned-by-courts-and-shareholders-in-climate-blitz/

Three of the world’s biggest oil and gas companies have suffered significant blows in quick succession, with a collection of court rulings and shareholder votes sending shockwaves through an industry rattled by accelerating climate action and the impacts of the COVID19 pandemic.

Overnight, a Dutch court found that Shell is required to reduce its total emissions, including those from operation but also those from the use of the products it sells (“scope 3” emissions) by 45% of 2019 levels by the year 2030, to align with global climate goals.

This was found on the grounds that climate impacts would breach the human rights of residents of the Netherlands, and the Wadden region. The case was brought in April 2019 by seven climate activist groups and led by Dutch environmental group Milieudefensie, and the findings were announced on Wednesday night, Europe time.

The court’s ruling found that Shell is directly culpable for the climate impacts created by the normal usage of the products it sells, namely oil and gas. It rejected the company’s arguments that not selling these products would result in others selling the same, or that the responsibility lies with consumers rather than fossil fuel companies.

more at link

flying_wahini

(6,608 posts)
3. I hope the oil companies have to break their banks to pay for this.
Wed May 26, 2021, 11:02 PM
May 2021

They should be forced to make restitution by rebuilding the rain forests and cleaning up the oceans. Starting tomorrow.

mahina

(17,669 posts)
7. We pay anyway w externalities
Wed May 26, 2021, 11:38 PM
May 2021

Exxon doesn’t pick
Up the tab for catastrophic storms, rising sea level- we do

ShazamIam

(2,575 posts)
8. Count the costs of climate change damage and health costs and the impoverishment of the many
Wed May 26, 2021, 11:47 PM
May 2021

nations who oil was pretty much stolen by the private oil gangsters with help from the rich nations governments of course.

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
19. Yup, and we can now please Please PLEASE stop oil company subsidies!!! They made billions
Thu May 27, 2021, 08:11 AM
May 2021

and we gave them more money and pay little to no taxes... uff.. Then again they tout them selfs as "energy companies" so watch them get into solar/wind/geothermal energy and forms of nuclear. I know I saw wind turbines in PA and Virginia with FPL on the sides...
Florida Power and Light... They get around, eh?
m

yonder

(9,667 posts)
6. How long will it take before the Reichwing begins characterizing
Wed May 26, 2021, 11:30 PM
May 2021

the shareholders of these corporations as misguided, radical, commie/socialists/nazi/fascists/blm/antifa.....whatever their nom du jour might be?

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
9. It's too...
Thu May 27, 2021, 12:06 AM
May 2021

Little, too late...

We are at ~415ppm of CO2 in atmosphere. A level never seen in any historic record going back 800,000+ yrs. Temp always lags CO2 but it always catches up and we have no idea what 415ppm means when the temp catches up to it. That will certainly go right past the 2C target. Some reports anticipate a 5-10C rise in temps which would be absolutely devastating in ways we do not even know.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
14. It figures that much of the impetus comes from the Netherlands
Thu May 27, 2021, 05:32 AM
May 2021

Half of the country is below sea level already. They don't need for another 25% of their territory to join that status. Pumping the water out 24/7 is already a major issue there, and there is a water ministry (Rijkswaterstaat) just to manage it.

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