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Can employers make COVID-19 vaccination mandatory?
How employers approach the issue will vary
https://www.denverpost.com/2021/05/27/employers-mandatory-covid-19-vaccination/
Can employers make COVID-19 vaccination mandatory?
Experts say U.S. employers can require employees to take safety measures, including vaccination. That doesnt necessarily mean you would get fired if you refuse, but you might need to sign a waiver or agree to work under specific conditions to limit any risk you might pose to yourself or others.
Employers generally have wide scope to make rules for the workplace, said Dorit Reiss, a law professor who specializes in vaccine policies at the University of California Hastings College of the Law. Its their business.
Rules will vary by country. But the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has allowed companies to mandate the flu and other vaccines, and has indicated they can require COVID-19 vaccines.
There are exceptions. For example, people can request exemptions for medical or religious reasons. Some states have proposed laws that restrict mandating the vaccines because of their emergency use status, but that may become less of an issue since Pfizer has applied for full approval and others are likely to follow.
How employers approach the issue will vary. Many might not want to require vaccination because of the administrative burden of tracking compliance and managing exemption requests, noted Michelle S. Strowhiro, an employment adviser and lawyer at McDermott Will & Emery. Legal claims could also arise.
As a result, many employers will likely strongly encourage vaccination without making it mandatory, Strowhiro said.
Johonny
(20,851 posts)Tree Lady
(11,476 posts)With 300 employees in CA she said it is illegal in CA to require it. But the girls in office she works directly with all got it and the one hold out got it for going to Hawaii.
Freddie
(9,267 posts)Heard about people working in nursing homes refusing to get it and spreading it to the elderly. The vaccine is least effective in the very elderly.
GregariousGroundhog
(7,525 posts)I highly suspect that once the FDA grants full approval (as opposed to emergency use) of the COVID vaccines, we will see health care providers and the military mandate COVID vaccination.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)MichMan
(11,938 posts)It could be done with a stroke of a pen. Why hasn't it?
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)In a few months, both Pfizer and Moderna are all but certain to have full FDA approval and they will.
But, businesses do not have to wait.
MichMan
(11,938 posts)What law makes that distinction?
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)are FDA-approved, but can use others (e.g., experimental Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis in the 1980s) and similar only for those determined to be at service-related exceptional risk. Anthrax vaccine was FDA-approved if you are thinking of that. Beyond that, this would be a question for the WH and Office of Personnel Management (OPM).
beaglelover
(3,486 posts)I just went through return to the office training for Managers this week. When we do return to the office you cant ask if someone is vaccinated and you cant say things like Ok everyone who is vaccinated lets meet in the conference room
To discuss xyz and if you are not vaccinated you can zoom into the meeting.
ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)Unless there is a reason for not being vaxxed that is an outcome of being in a protected class, why can't employers treat lower health risk people differently?
If it's in an at-will state, I think they could get away with just terminating you for refusing to adequately protect coworkers. That's not likely, but they could probably do it.
Why did your company make this call?
Retired member of management in a multinational here. I'm not getting that there's a hard legal reason why you couldn't require zoom attendance for non-vaxxed staff.
beaglelover
(3,486 posts)We just have to follow the rules as the Company decrees them. I'm on the tail end of my career, hoping to retire in 3 years, so I'm not rocking any boats! I work for a VERY large entertainment/news company.
ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)I wouldn't either.
I just find it odd they wouldn't find a way to enhance workplace safety rather than punting.
I was a boatrocker, but the last 15 months (after I announced my retirement date) I kept my head down.
So, I don't blame you.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)They can fire if you dont get it and do not have a valid medical reason for not getting it.
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)if you didn't get a flu shot by a certain date. It was originally going to be mandated but that got dropped.
This was in NYS.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)Maybe exceptions will need to be made for certain employees, but it should be mandatory for most because of liability, if no other reason.