This Proud Boy whiner from Kansas takes the cake.

[catbyte]

He's arguing that he's in danger of losing his disability benefits, isn't getting his pain medication and ADHD meds while he's incarcerated. But he was well enough to wield an axe handle and threaten police officers on January 6. Oh, and he has "family obligations." Cry me a river, traitor.

Kansas City area Proud Boy who wielded ax handle at Capitol riot wants out of jail

BY JUDY L. THOMAS
MAY 27, 2021 08:52 AM

An Olathe Proud Boy incarcerated since his arrest in connection with the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection is asking the court to reconsider its decision to detain him pending trial.

In a motion filed Wednesday in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, William Chrestman’s attorney argued that the Army veteran posed no safety risk and that prosecutors had no proof that he was part of any organized effort to breach the Capitol.

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A workplace accident resulted in Chrestman suffering long-term chronic back pain, it said, and he wasn’t receiving the proper regimen of pain medications while incarcerated. The motion said Chrestman also was being treated for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, major depressive disorder and insomnia, and those conditions were now going untreated.

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“The residence he shares with his common-law partner … and their six children is in danger of foreclosure, placing the whole nuclear family in jeopardy of homelessness,” it said.

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https://www.kansascity.com/article251716038.html

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Perhaps he should have thought about all that before he decided to participate in the attempted overthrow of the federal government. What a tool.

[Fullduplexxx]

1. Back pain didnt seem to stop him from wielding an axe

[Rebl2]

75. Well he was on his

pain meds. Guess he’s getting a taste of what many prisoners experience while they are in jail. Many don’t get their medications they need. Suppose he should have given some thought to what he was getting himself into, and what the consequences would be for him and his family if he went through with it. Sorry but no sympathy here.

[Demovictory9]

97. ooohh... snap

[flying_wahini]

2. Boo f*ckin Hoo.

This will an unpopular comment but here goes:


Common law wife means they probably get a govt check for kids.
And since he is on work disability, well that’s another check…
Apparently not so disabled that he can still swing an axe handle
at the Insurrection.

Lock his ass up.


Same Oaf keepers are all about stopping people that REALLY need help.

[AZ8theist]

58. Yup...

Insurrections have consequences....

[Roy Rolling]

85. Welfare Queens?

Sounds like he’s a walking stereotype on two legs and a phony back injury.

[FoxNewsSucks]

3. He should ask his GodTrump to pay his bills and bail him out.

Fuck all of those traitors, and fuck the republiqons who were in on it.

[marble falls]

4. Funny how RWers have no mercy for the poor stealing food, but tons for 'poor' insurectionists.

[MineralMan]

5. Moron!

[blueinredohio]

7. Don't you mean Moran?

[MineralMan]

10. Nope. I can spell.

So I spell it correctly. I'm not a Republican.

[blueinredohio]

14. Good comeback.

[Permanut]

69. You have an excellent command of English..

our offical language.

[Claire Oh Nette]

6. But all those fuzzy little foreigners are the takers

He hurt his back and doesn't work.
He was able to travel from Kansas to DC and wield an Axe.

His disability income certainly can't finance a family of six children.

He's crying because he's not getting his opioids and his methamphetamine salts.

Waaambulance on the way.


don't do the crime if you can't do the time (no. don't do it...)

[erronis]

34. Like the "Waambulance" - have to find a way to use it soon.

Anytime these types of people whine about welfare cheats, they are projecting themselves onto others.

[SergeStorms]

95. He's going to find out soon....

that worker's comp is not going to cover the cost of opiates anymore. They'll pay for muscle relaxers, prescription tylenol and other medications for an injury, but opiates - except under extreme conditions - will not be covered under worker's comp. insurance any longer.

I received this bit of news from my federally licensed pain and system management Dr. Last week. I don't really care, but many people do.

[radical noodle]

108. If he's well enough to go fight in an insurgency

his worker's comp payments may be re-evaluated. He's most likely in good enough shape to work.

[pandr32]

8. These guys have no concerns when others face similar problems

That's what happens when people are incarcerated.

[intheflow]

28. Right? Like, I'm sorry the learning curve

is so steep for this guy, but then again: even asking for this and pleading family hardship shows such a reliance on white supremacy that they are sure this is a compelling argument. I feel bad for his kids but maybe their father being a jailbird asshole traitor will wake them up to be better citizens.

[pandr32]

53. I 100% agree

[samnsara]

9. these guys are the biggest bunch of babies!!!

[smirkymonkey]

78. They really are!

It's so pathetic, it's laughable. Somebody should really do a parody film about this one day when it's not quite so fresh.

[Sneederbunk]

11. How dare the Court inconvenience this man.

[JohnnyRingo]

12. Jail is tough going. That's what keeps me honest.

That and they banned smoking.

[iemitsu]

13. Recipient of government largess tries to overthrow the government

then complains when his check is in danger.
The epitome of stupidity.

[crickets]

22. +1

[CaliforniaPeggy]

47. Extremely well said! Thank you. ♥

[Duppers]

56. +100

Was my 1st thought too.

He just one of the idiots.

[SWBTATTReg]

15. Maybe his disability should be looked at more closely too...I mean, if the guy was able to

travel to DC and back, isn't that questionable? After all, I've suffered back injury, still have it reoccur still to this day after 30+ years, and the last thing I want to do is get into a car/vehicle and drive on the road w/ a bad back. Believe me, other fellow DUers will agree w/ me.

And where did this idiot learn how to whine? Why of course from djt, the one who mastered the art of whining endlessly.

[Ms. Toad]

73. Back injuries are not all identical.

I've had a back injury since the 80s. The pain never completely goes away - although most days it's a 1-2 level pain. I can drive for days on end.

Using my right arm to carry an axe at my side would be no problem. Swinging it would likely trigger a month of pain.

[SWBTATTReg]

74. Yes, I know. Back injuries no matter what, are bad, regardless.

All 'back injuries' are not identical, but it's still a back injury. You're one the few I know that can handle driving endlessly w/ back pain. It's still not easy.

[Ms. Toad]

79. It really depends on what caused the injury,

where the pain is, etc. The source of mine is a musce spasm which never goes away. But as long as I can recline the seat a bit and avoid lifting anything with my right arm out to the side of my body, the pain stays down to a dull roar.

But - I reacted the way I did because I was nearly denied worker's comp based on stereotypes of how a back injury is supposed to behave - despite the fact that even a 1st year medical student can touch my back, 40 years later, and immediately find the focal point of the pain.

Fortunately I wasn't ultimately denied partial permanent disability under worker's comp based on those assumptions, but it wasn't a given because their doctors were just punching the clock and basing their conclusions on their assumptions about what people can do with a back injury (like people with back injuries can't drive for long periods of time.) The battery of their tests (bend, stretch, lift, etc.) didn't test any of the things that aggravated my injury.

[questionseverything]

80. 1-2 on the pain scale wouldn't qualify for disability anyway

N/t

[Ms. Toad]

81. That's the constant pain level nearly 40 years out.

Not what it was at the time. Not what it is now if I do something to trigger it. At the moment, it's about a 4 (and has been for close to that for about a month).

But - driving in a car doesn't trigger my pain, nor is it a source of pain for everyone with a back injury.

[TexasBushwhacker]

82. Chronic pain messes with your head

My brother had the misfortune of inheriting bad discs from our mother's side of the family. He's 58 and has had 2 neck surgeries and one lumbar. He is never pain free, ever.

[Ms. Toad]

84. Yup.

Even low-level pain.

Fortunately, I've mostly been able to work out a truce with my body - but I've got now 6 things I have to adapt to for sleeping. I do it mostly without thinking - but the last doctor I explained reality to was a bit incredulous.

I've got a bit of sleep apnea - so I can't sleep on my back unless I have to because something triggered my back (setting off a month of sleeping on a heating pad & draping one over my chair back at work (it takes at least 12 hours/day for a month to get it back down to the low-level background pain once it's triggered).

I can't sleep on my stomach because when the doctor removed my top right rib he left one of the neck muscles just flapping in the breeze, so to speak, and it tied itself down someplace that wasn't very useful. So I don't have full range of motion (to comfortably turn the head to one side). So to prevent 24/7 neck spasms I have to sleep on one side with a stiff enough roll pressing on that muscle to keep it from fighting with its companion muscles all night. Normally that lets it relax for long enough that there's only mild pain during the day. If that's not enough, it gets the heating pad treatment overnight, too.

I'm not supposed to sleep on my right side beause I had a lumpectomy with removal of 3 lymph nodes - and constriction risks lymphedema. But I can't sleep on my left side because of shoulder pain. And now I've got a graft on my right arm (leftover from sarcoma in my right arm - the trigger for the conversation - the doc wanted me to switch sleeping positions). It adds to the lymphedema risk - and the swelling is threatening to turn into carpal tunnel syndrome (so I ought not be sleeping on it . . . )

But the best risk/pain compromise is sleeping on my right side hugging a giant pillow to keep my left arm level with the side of my body to minimize the arm-across-the-body-triggered shoulder pain.

Whew! But all that, coupled with carefully angling the back of my chair and not side-lifting anything with my right arm leaves me with tolerable mild chronic pain.

But it is exhausting.

[Aussie105]

86. At least you didn't think that storming the Capitol Building

and wielding an axe handle would solve all your problems.

[Ms. Toad]

88. Never even crossed my mind . . .

And - since I've worked out the half-dozen truces to keep my body parts at peace individually over time, I don't really think of myself as having lots of problems until I start reciting them to a new health professional who hasn't heard the litany yet.

Each one is just part of my new reality.

[rustysgurl]

16. As A Resident of Olathe

I say keep him -- we don't want him back here.

It's obvious he needs close supervision, since he doesn't have the ability to consider the consequences of his actions beforehand.

We've still got some Trump lovers around here. A walk through our neighborhood shows at least one neighbor still flying a huge Trump flag on the front of his house. I'm not ashamed to say I flip them off every time we walk the dog.

[multigraincracker]

17. Right wingers always have to

play the victim. I can't seem to find any sympathy for them.

[dixiegrrrrl]

18. Couple of things...

From Soc. Sec.:

If you receive Social Security, your benefits will be suspended if you're convicted of a criminal offense and sent to jail or prison for more than 30 continuous days. Your benefits can be reinstated starting with the month following the month of your release.

Note: "benefits CAN be re-instated"
not.."willl" be.
He will most likely have to re-apply. Good luck with that.
Plus, he may have to pay back any check he got for the month he was first put in jail.


Necessary prescription drugs are provided by most jails, but only per the written prescription dose. If he was abusing the pain pills, he's out of luck.

He can't be the only dipshit with this problem.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

50. Actually some psych units

Will take you off ADHD meds. They don't even have ADHD meds.

It's tough because I really do have ADHD ,my sister has it,my mom had all the symptoms..
I got diagnosed in the early 70's. When you have real ADHD the meds do not make you high btw.



But this proud boy asshole he's a fucking addict,loser sponging off the state.

Alot of lazy white people play up to get disability.

I got on it when I was in long term psych care. I still end up having problems. I wish my illness would heal I have no idea what feeling normal is like.

But I bet this asshole feels fine when he's not going for a review of benifiets.
He is just an entitled prick.

Btw more white people get benifiets than black people do.

These losers are all about projection. Sad thing is actually disabled people get hurt from thier projections.

[Hortensis]

104. Hopefully the schmuck's medical treatment in jail will be reviewed and

adjusted if appropriate. We owe prisoners proper medical care.

[Vinca]

19. OMG - hand me another box of tissues. How totally, totally

HYSTERICAL. I'm laughing so hard I'm crying.

[riversedge]

20. February 24th 2021; Alleged leader of KC Proud Boys to be held until trial

I had to refresh my memory of who this guy was................




Alleged leader of KC Proud Boys to be held until trial


https://krcgtv.com/news/local/alleged-leader-of-kc-proud-boys-to-be-held-until-trial

by Associated Press, Megan Smaltz Wednesday, February 24th 2021





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Five members of the Kansas City metro chapter of the Proud Boys were seen marching "within feet" of other people who have also been identified as members of Proud Boys during the riots at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. (Department of Justice)




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Photos and videos captured William Norman Chrestman dressed in a black baseball hat and a green tactical vest during the riots at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. He was also carrying what an affidavit said "appeared to be a wooden club or axe handle, which was initially disguised as a blue flag." (Department of Justice)


KANSAS CITY —.............................


Chief U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell ordered Tuesday that 47-year-old William Chrestman be taken from Kansas to Washington to be held until his trial. Howell's ruling reversed a decision last week from a federal judge in Kansas that Chrestman should be released until trial.

Federal authorities allege Chrestman, of Olathe, led members of the Kansas City-area Proud Boys who stormed the Capitol last month.

An affidavit details alleged evidence of the group's coordination and planning for the riot saying Chrestman and two other people linked to the Kansas City-area Proud Boys were seen wearing tactical-style gear including helmets and gloves.

Five members of the Kansas City metro chapter of the Proud Boys were seen marching "within feet" of other people who have also been identified as members of Proud Boys during the riots at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. (Department of Justice)

Chrestman was also seen carrying a weapon disguised as a flag, according to the affidavit.

"Chrestman arrived at the Capitol with a respirator and wooden club or axe handle disguised as a flag," the affidavit said.
..........................

[UpInArms]

100. He seems like he is perfectly able to wield an axe

So, I am thinking his disability claim was bogus.

[pwb]

21. This Veteran says, Chrestman you fucked up. You attacked what we Veterans all defended.

Your shit is not together and you deserve what you get.

[Justice matters.]

42. Fux $nooze + hate Radio + the oRange mob$teR F'd Chrestmanliban

"bigly"

Lock him up.

[oasis]

23. Oh no ya don't.

[patphil]

24. Please have pity on the poor criminal.

All he wanted to do was overthrow the Republic.
Think of the pain it will cause his family because he certainly didn't when he attacked the Capitol.
Prison will give him time to reflect on the concept of family responsibility.

[forgotmylogin]

46. ...and his "common law partner and six children!"

He shoulda put a ring on it if he's concerned for their well-being.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

48. I suspect a condom would have been a better thing to put on it!

[forgotmylogin]

49. UH OH OH!

[3catwoman3]

66. Excellent comeback!

[lame54]

25. Prisoners have had all these complaints for years but...

But the never leave the prison walls

Yet every one of these creeps gets their story told nationally

[nuxvomica]

26. This is the key to their leader's appeal

He is a symbol of privilege without consequences to his cult members and they identify strongly with him because they think they inherit the same grace. These protests for leniency echo what that woman who was maced said with much surprise, "We're storming the Capitol. It's a revolution," with the same disbelief as if she were maced at a bake sale. I think if somehow their leader is finally forced to pay for any of his crimes, it will have a devastating effect on the cult, as this sense of impunity is the magical spell that binds them all.

[malaise]

27. HE should have thought of this before

Lock him up!

[LymphocyteLover]

35. exactly

[MarcA]

29. So try to overthrow the government that supports

such benefits, aka Democratic led government, and then complain about losing
these benefits. Either stupidity or greed or mental illness.

[Duppers]

54. I'll go with stupid.

But mental illness is a close 2nd.

👍

[IcyPeas]

30. poor guy, maybe the judge will allow him to go on vacation.

[kairos12]

31. As a veteran I say

to you Chestman, the veteran (if true), you are a traitorous POS and I hope you rot in jail.

[Whiskeytide]

32. The adjuster on his disability claim should ...

... use the video of him wielding the axe handle as evidence that he’s not really disabled. He should have to pay back all of the benefits he’s received over the years. Taker.

[Duppers]

57. Indeed!

TY!

[bottomofthehill]

33. Fuck him

when the jury convicts him, he can rot in jail, too bad for his common law family, maybe sugar daddy should not have been part of an armed insurrection against the US government

[mudstump]

36. He needs to be treated like many who ask for pain relief...

....treat him like a drug seeker, turn him down, give him an Ibuprofen and let him suffer....

[Fritz Walter]

37. Tell your sad story to those who lost loved ones...

...or colleagues defending the Capitol from him and his ilk!!

They’re facing hardships much worse than yours, Buttercup. So suck it up!

[Traildogbob]

38. SOCIALISM!!!!!

Their number one outrage. Fuck you piss ant. I hope the pain is horrendous. Give him a bag of willow twigs to chew on.

[Justice matters.]

43. Yep. They want to de$tRoy big gobeRmint then complain the checks Dems voted and passed stopped

coming in...

[AllaN01Bear]

39. should have never attended an insurrection.

[Warpy]

40. Whinorrhea is the precise medical term

for entitled people who can't believe the world is being so damnably unfair to them.

Also, if he's on disability, the only support he's been providing to his family is child care, a service I think those six children are most likely better off without.

Your level of sympathy for this creature is exactly the same as mine.

[Mr. Ected]

41. From the sound of it, he was attempting to overthrow the very government that signs his checks

Because he is against socialism, no doubt.

We live in a weird country, don't we?

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

96. I imagine there are also government checks for those six children.

At the very least they're getting SNAP payments and maybe Medicaid. He didn't mention anything about needing to get back to his job to support his family.

I doubt he's being prevented from taking his prescription drugs. He's just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.

[DENVERPOPS]

102. I would think

that his living off the Gov't teat doesn't end with just Disability.

Medicaid, food stamps, democrats sending checks to him, his "wife" and six kids, worker's comp, etc etc etc etc
Perhaps, by not being truly married, gives them more avenues to collect even more government money???????

Some one should investigate all of that and any other benefits they receive. Then the Lincoln Project should do an ad, showing him for what he is! A hypocritical Right Wing Fanatic, hating the Government, but a person who lives off that very same Gov't and milks it for all it's worth.

[PatrickforB]

44. So, the traitorous scum Chrestman has benefitted from government programs,

but hates the government.

Sigh.

A nice prison sentence will do him good. And it will definitely make us a bit safer.

[onethatcares]

45. I was wondering what the insurrectionists

thought was going to happen to the govt they were trying to shut down. Seems like they hadn't a thought about the deep state rank and file that pays his bills.

Sad for the kids though. They just found out their dad is an asshole of the nth degree and the rents too high.

I didn't read if they were adopted or sired. If they were sired he should be subject to a vasectomy pronto.

[JHB]

52. They thought it would all work out the way they'd imagined...

...and they'd be hailed as heroes.

Just like any other "hold my beer" moment before it plays out.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

51. Let him rot.

[demtenjeep]

55. play stupid games

stfu asswipe

[Botany]

59. Yes no doubt he is nutter than a squirrel turd.

The certification of the vote is ceremonial after all the states certify their votes and nothing this stupid mouth breathing idiot was gonna do on 1/6 was gonna change the outcome of the election.

[DeSmet]

60. My question to this Proud Boy is.....

Look at yourself. What the f*ck are you so proud about?

[Bird Lady]

61. Well shit for brains...

You should think about how much you really want to overthrow the government.
No matter how hard your life was before Jan 6, it will be orders of magnitude worse in prison.
There will be no sympathy for you from most people I know. I think you belong GITMO.

[Hassler]

62. Proud Boy not to proud to grovel and whine.

[BobTheSubgenius]

63. Has there ever been a prisoner in any jail or prison that didn't have a story?

F him. Let him rot.

[ChubbyStar]

91. They all have a story and it is the same FUCKING one

"I don't belong here."

[llashram]

64. what a fool!!!

suffer...

[lunatica]

65. I have no damns to not give anymore

Screw him!

[The Unmitigated Gall]

67. Consequences

Coming now to a fucking traitor near you!

[tiptonic]

68. Poor

Poor Baby!!!!

[Skittles]

70. I'm surprised Watkins wasn't at the Captiol

what a fucking nutcase

[Permanut]

71. Now, let's cut him some slack here..

He can't play with his guns.
Can't meet up with other morons for intellectual conversation.
Can't drive his 10 foot tall pickup truck with the giant American flags in the back.
Can't go to NRA meetings.
Can't spread the real truth about the election, Hunter's hard drive or her emails.
Can't knock back a few brewskis while sharing fond KKK, militia and/or nazi memories with his childhood pals.

These are some serious hardships that he hasn't even mentioned.

[Scrivener7]

76. Are we sure they were prescribed?

[happybird]

94. That's jail. "Unethical" is the perfect descriptor.

I had no idea how unsanitary, how abusive, how utterly disgusting and dehumanizing it was until I went. Of course, I knew it would be unpleasant, but had no idea it would be *that* horrible.

Any prescription with the potential for addiction is considered a security risk.

I spent the whole time I was there (only 5 days, thankfully) going through debilitating withdrawals from a medication I had been prescribed for close to a decade. It was awful. I wouldn’t wish that torture on my worst enemy, not even the Former Guy.

[japple]

77. All that family obligation, plus his long-term pain, chronic pain, ADHD, depression, insomnia, and

other unmentioned maladies, yet he was compelled to go to DC to fight for an illegitimate preznit who doesn't give a fuck about him. He is screwn.

[kaotikross]

83. so lemme get this straight

He's on disability with six kids, but he had cash for his little costume and transportation to DC? Where he was so able bodied he fought with an axe handle? Seems to me he needs his disability reviewed and an overseer for his finances to decide what is actually a "necessary expense".

[Maru Kitteh]

87. So basically we have here a lazy, fornicating drug-addled loser

Who wants us working taxpayers to keep him and his bastard children along with their fornicating mother in the style of living to which he has become accustomed - right?

Isn't that pretty much how they describe anyone who isn't them on socialist programs like disability and medicaid?


Pick yur' self up by them boot straps, Billy boy. Your lack of narcotics and amphetamines is none of my concern.

[Ziggysmom]

89. Agreed! My Grammy would say Suck it up Buttercup 😇

[Maru Kitteh]

90. I'll bet he probably wants welfare recipients drug tested.

Dumbass.

[Blue Owl]

92. I Loathe the Proud Boy from Olathe

[Texasgal]

93. How any of these insurrectionists

thought that this was okay is BEYOND me!

Time to pay the price, idiots!

[Maxheader]

98. Bundy brave...

[Purrfessor]

99. He also suffers from Insurrectionist Blowback Disorder.

[C Moon]

101. They all pictured themselves getting a medal from asshead.

Now they sit in prison.
Yeah, of course, give him his meds—the depression is on him. What about the Capitol police who are suffering because of jackasses like him?

He had a choice, and decided to break the law. Time to pay the price—we don’t care that he’s a white man with a family.

[colsohlibgal]

103. Cry Us A River Loser

There can be quite the cost for being dumb and easy to manipulate.

[BComplex]

105. Plus, he's addicted to those pain pills, and he's not getting enough in jail to

fix his jones.

[Heartstrings]

106. Actions have Consequences.

Most people learn that while they’re toddlers.

[cab67]

107. "nuclear family?" hypocrite...

Nuclear families were being torn apart whenever undocumented parents brought over as small children were deported. Know what the Proud Boys types said? "That's on the deported parent."