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TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
Thu May 27, 2021, 12:59 PM May 2021

The GOP has sold out to a conman and a fraud.

I know...thank you, Captain Obvious.

It's hard to think of another political figure in recent times who is more clearly, overtly, and completely corrupt, immoral, and an obvious sham than Donald Trump. He's a cardboard cut-out with zero redeeming qualities and the most obvious fraud in modern political history.

I occasionally still find myself shaking my head, wondering how and why so many people sold themselves out to support this fraud. And why many still do. Power, bigotry, stubbornness, hero worship, blind partisanship, and the like, certainly, but there are many indications and reports that his popularity has dropped to history lows, even among Republicans, and his influence in the media and elsewhere has waned considerably, starting with a precipitous crash after he was booted by social media.

I think they could take him out for good with a highly-concerted effort, and, yet, they still bow to the altar, pushing conspiracy theories that make them look like buffoons. They would take a hit with his supporters, certainly, but unlike many, I think those voters would just latch on to the next shiny object and the hit would have been temporary. They're going to vote for the GOP regardless and the GOP is desperately putting plans in place to cover any who don't bother.

Instead, he may be an anchor dragging them down until one too many cheeseburgers finally takes him out. I'm OK with that, but the often-cutthroat GOP has been remarkably terrified of the guy to the point of ridiculousness.

And don't get me started on why they don't run screaming from MTG....

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The GOP has sold out to a conman and a fraud. (Original Post) TwilightZone May 2021 OP
There are only two kinds of Republicans. Some crossover between the two kinds. Progressive Jones May 2021 #1
It would be more understandable if the fascists had rallied around a charismatic, intelligent, evil Mysterian May 2021 #2
They were there for like "two seconds" on January 7th ScratchCat May 2021 #3
It all boils down to this: poli-junkie May 2021 #4
I Think They RobinA May 2021 #5
"only has the power they give him" TwilightZone May 2021 #7
Or - The one they were waiting for lame54 May 2021 #6
I don't really buy that argument. TwilightZone May 2021 #9
They really haven't sold out. That's who they are!! nt joetheman May 2021 #8
I know this has been said 1000X here. WarGamer May 2021 #10

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
1. There are only two kinds of Republicans. Some crossover between the two kinds.
Thu May 27, 2021, 01:02 PM
May 2021

You've got your morally bankrupt ones, and you've got your morons.

Mysterian

(4,588 posts)
2. It would be more understandable if the fascists had rallied around a charismatic, intelligent, evil
Thu May 27, 2021, 01:03 PM
May 2021

leader, but it is mind-boggling that they have created their emperor-god out of a greasy, stupid, orange-painted slob like Donald fucking Trump.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
3. They were there for like "two seconds" on January 7th
Thu May 27, 2021, 01:20 PM
May 2021
I think they could take him out for good with a highly-concerted effort....They would take a hit with his supporters, certainly, but unlike many, I think those voters would just latch on to the next shiny object and the hit would have been temporary.

And then stuck their finger in the wind and decided they'd rather keep his base voters by "playing victim" for the next two election cycles since they have absolutely nothing policy-wise to run on. They watched the media create a racial narrative over the summer/fall, and they are going to use the next three years to create their own. Its all they got.

poli-junkie

(1,002 posts)
4. It all boils down to this:
Thu May 27, 2021, 02:53 PM
May 2021

Republicans want to turn America into a Putin-style kleptocratic autocracy. All of the repukes and Trump minions want in on the eventual pieces of the pie, with respective kick-backs going to Trump Co.

They loooooove what Putin's got going over there!

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
5. I Think They
Thu May 27, 2021, 03:26 PM
May 2021

could take him out with not much concerted effort. He's in the dustbin and only has the power they give him. And they keep giving it to him.

TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
7. "only has the power they give him"
Thu May 27, 2021, 05:22 PM
May 2021

I think this is perfect. Even the right-wing media is barely trying to prop him up anymore, with a few notable exceptions.

TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
9. I don't really buy that argument.
Thu May 27, 2021, 05:24 PM
May 2021

Their approach really isn't that different than it was during the 8 years of Obama, and Trump, while sharing much of their agenda, was much more overt about it than they would have preferred. They don't need Trump to pursue it. In fact, they would have been better off with someone more competent. They'd probably still have the White House.

WarGamer

(12,452 posts)
10. I know this has been said 1000X here.
Thu May 27, 2021, 05:27 PM
May 2021

Trump is the symptom, not the disease.



The GOP was headed this direction long before Trump.

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