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Tommy Carcetti

(43,184 posts)
Thu May 27, 2021, 02:41 PM May 2021

Goddamit! There's a god damned John Steinbeck WEREWOLF novel floating around and we can't see it!

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/27/books/steinbeck-werewolf-novel.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Yes, Steinbeck Wrote a Werewolf Novel. Don’t Expect to Read It.

A scholar of American literature at Stanford says it’s worth publishing. The agents representing the Steinbeck estate strongly disagree.

By Heather Murphy
May 27, 2021
Updated 1:49 p.m. ET
Nine years before John Steinbeck published his Pulitzer Prize-winning historical masterpiece, “The Grapes of Wrath,” he was working on a lighthearted detective novel featuring a werewolf.

The manuscript, “Murder at Full Moon,” was completed in 1930 but was never published. A single copy has been sitting, mostly forgotten, in an archive in Texas since 1969. It includes drawings by Steinbeck himself.

A scholar of American literature at Stanford University is pushing for the book to be published, but the agents for Steinbeck’s estate vehemently refused this week, after the effort was featured in The Guardian.

The professor, Gavin Jones, is undeterred. He dug “Murder at Full Moon” out of the archive at the Harry Ransom Center in Austin while working on a book about Steinbeck. “I’d love to see it published,” he said.


Motherfucking Werewolves by John-Grapes-of-Wrath-and-Of-Mice-and-Men-Motherfucking-Steinbeck.

Quite possibly the fucking coolest thing to ever have been invented, and they won't let us read it because they're Team Edward or whatever.

I feel we need to get the President to weigh in on this.

Joe--if you're listening--order the release of the Steinbeck Werewolf novel, and we'll immediately start fitting Mount Rushmore for your face.
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Goddamit! There's a god damned John Steinbeck WEREWOLF novel floating around and we can't see it! (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti May 2021 OP
THIS I have to read. FalloutShelter May 2021 #1
Release the Steinbeck cut. cinematicdiversions May 2021 #2
I bet it is a real howler! SoonerPride May 2021 #3
I'm intriqued, "archive in Texas," could that be referring to author Larry McMurty's collection? ShazamIam May 2021 #4
The University of Texas Tomconroy May 2021 #5
It has a substantial collection of manuscripts period TexasBushwhacker May 2021 #9
WHAT ismnotwasm May 2021 #6
I don't even like horror, and I'd like to read it. shrike3 May 2021 #7
The Hemingway Estate Tomconroy May 2021 #8
I agree TexasBushwhacker May 2021 #10
It's quite possible Steinbeck left instructions not to publish any novels posthumously greenjar_01 May 2021 #14
Judging from the article, there were no such instructions. Tomconroy May 2021 #16
Not sure it follows from that evidence that there were no instructions greenjar_01 May 2021 #17
Looks like I haven't read everything by Steinbeck. ananda May 2021 #11
Wow did I struggle with great literature. bucolic_frolic May 2021 #12
What kind of archive is it sitting in? Bev54 May 2021 #13
It's at the Harry Ransom Center at UT Austin greenjar_01 May 2021 #15

ShazamIam

(2,575 posts)
4. I'm intriqued, "archive in Texas," could that be referring to author Larry McMurty's collection?
Thu May 27, 2021, 03:10 PM
May 2021

It is more likely a University but I think McMurty considered Steinbeck to be an authentic, Western, voice and collected rare books and manuscripts.

Edit add: I remembered reading about a fight over the rights to his work, just looked it up. It is apparently at the Supreme Court.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/post-names-frederick-j-ryan-jr-as-new-publisher/2014/09/02/78f65bf2-329d-11e4-8f02-03c644b2d7d0_story.html

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
8. The Hemingway Estate
Thu May 27, 2021, 04:39 PM
May 2021

Published a few of his unreleased novels over the years. They weren't great literature, but they were interesting reading. The Steinbeck Estate should loosen up and do the same.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
14. It's quite possible Steinbeck left instructions not to publish any novels posthumously
Thu May 27, 2021, 05:23 PM
May 2021

I mean, he was one of the most famous novelists in the United States from the late 30's through his death in 1968: he could have had that novel published at any time had he wanted to. He apparently didn't. I'm not against an estate upholding the wishes of the author.

In one notable case, Michel Foucault asked that his unfinished History of Sexuality Volume 4 not be published posthumously (in fact, he specified that no unfinished manuscripts be published, if I recall correctly), a wish his estate upheld until his notes and manuscripts were collected and published last year some time.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
16. Judging from the article, there were no such instructions.
Thu May 27, 2021, 06:55 PM
May 2021

. Steinbeck destroyed some unpublished manuscripts, but not this one.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
17. Not sure it follows from that evidence that there were no instructions
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:44 AM
May 2021

He also, as I noted, made no effort to see this completed manuscript published when he could have, though they would have been setting it the minute he asked. That's telling.

bucolic_frolic

(43,196 posts)
12. Wow did I struggle with great literature.
Thu May 27, 2021, 05:12 PM
May 2021

Then I was an English major for 6 months. Then armed with business I hated it and wanted to write. I write well, but struggle because i don't have the breadth of understanding of great literature, which seems to be the formulae for great writers nowadays. But there is the idea it's never about the nuts and bolts, it's about the power source.

I actually had to look up The Grapes of Wrath.

Bev54

(10,053 posts)
13. What kind of archive is it sitting in?
Thu May 27, 2021, 05:21 PM
May 2021

If it is not in the possession of the of the Steinbeck's estate, do they even own it?

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
15. It's at the Harry Ransom Center at UT Austin
Thu May 27, 2021, 05:27 PM
May 2021

Estates will often bequeath papers and manuscripts to university rare book rooms for research, while retaining some control over use. That's why academic studies will often thanks and credit both the rare book collection and the estate of the author in acknowledgments. In any case, the Harry Ransom Center would be extremely foolish to disregard the wishes of the Steinbeck estate, since that would signal to any other future donors about what will happen to their papers.

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