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Brian Tyler Cohen
@briantylercohen
Feinstein saying that this is the "first time" she's heard about eliminating the filibster and that "no one has proposed it" is a 5-alarm fire that she needs to retire. Just beyond comprehension.
Sahil Kapur
@sahilkapur
Asked Feinstein if a 1/6 filibuster would motivate her to abolish the rule:
"I don't see us abolishing the 60-vote threshold. I don't."
Would she vote to nix?
"This is the first time I've heard it. No one has proposed it. No one has talked to me about it. So it's a non-issue."
2:40 PM · May 27, 2021
TwilightZone
(25,472 posts)Grokenstein
(5,725 posts)Feinstein's lost it.
babylonsister
(171,074 posts)Last edited Thu May 27, 2021, 09:43 PM - Edit history (1)
did you know she was so clueless? I don't think it's laughable if we're not informed of what's not going on in Feinstein's brain.
Edited this to add filibuster. I do know this isn't the first time she seemed incompetent.
Lonestarblue
(10,018 posts)She should not have run for reelection and should retire now so a Democratic governor can replace her. She has had a long and good career, but its time. When she congratulated Lindsey Graham on getting Barrett on the Supreme Court, I was astonished. She was a democratic stalwart in the past, but anyone who doesnt know that the filibuster is an issue now does not belong in the Senate.
femmedem
(8,203 posts)An interview with Jane Mayer of The New Yorker, who had recently reported on Senator Feinstein's possible cognitive problems: https://www.npr.org/2020/12/11/945578748/how-one-senators-missteps-lead-to-a-painful-age-question-in-congress
Escurumbele
(3,396 posts)Alzheimer. How can someone who is serving in the Senate not know that the filibuster has been the talk of the town for months now?
Manchin on the other hand just wants to have republican friends.
WarGamer
(12,452 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Ted Kennedy and John McCain were older and ill, but still able to comprehend the gravity of moments when they cast crucial votes for the initial ACA and to save it. It isn't about time in office it is about fitness to serve. We have Greene in the House, who hasn't even been in office for a full year of her first term and she has shown herself unfit for the solemnity of the office. She is not fit and never was. Feinstein has served with distinction, and I am not even a fan. She is however showing signs of significant cognitive deficits and it does her legacy no good for staff and Senate Leaders to allow her to continue. Someone needs to sit down with her and her chief of staff and have a serious conversation.
Here is what Term limits do. They erase any semblance of institutional memory from government while the Lobbyists who are ALWAYS there, get to go after impressionable younger members of Congress, who may not know how to write a bill as well as the more seasoned members. If we want people to serve less time in congress then we need to work on ways to make elections more fair and eliminate some of the incumbency advantages.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Sounds reasonable, but not in the short term when the republic is about to be lost.
Dakota Flint
(219 posts)Require a mental acuity test for everyone over 75 to be taken every three months to test their understanding of both US and world events.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)I would support every member of Congress having a mental status exam as part of an annual physical. Typically, unless we are talking about a stroke, you aren't going to see significant cognitive decline in a 3 month period, even at 75 and older. An annual exam would be sufficient to catch most situations. I think that aside from privacy concerns, any test that shows significant decline needs to be sent to whatever medical and ethical panel is available within Congress, and that person's fitness to serve, examined.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Term limits would give us more Josh Hawleys and fewer Nancy Pelosis.
Besides, we already have term limits. They're called elections.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)People seem to think that term limits or other schemes will fix problems in our politics. The reality is that the only things that will fix our politics is making them more fair and taking money out of politics.
Running for office should be a civic duty, not an industry. We are talking millions of dollars being spent on state elections, 10's of millions for District wide national elections, 100's of millions for Senatorial elections and billions to elect a President. Elections don't ever seem to stop. As soon as the results are in from one election, they start talking about the next cycle. All of these idiots getting paid to guess, or "give advice". It is bull shit. Elections are run like flashy middle school affairs. "Vote for Heather cause Jimmy has cooties". That is the level of discourse. People want to see if Trump would throw a chair rather than having them sit down and answer questions about policy and what they really need to do to fix the problems in the country.
We don't need term limits. We need better elections, and we need a smarter, more engaged electorate.
a kennedy
(29,675 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But people making dumb choices is not a reason to take my choice away from me.
JI7
(89,252 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)it's not as bad since we are mostly democratic so they are able to get the numbers needed.
But we have stupid propositions all the time when the legislature should be working on those issues. And this means people with experience .
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Hekate
(90,714 posts)orwell
(7,775 posts)...now she is my senator.
She is embarrassing to say the least.
Time to retire DiFi...
WarGamer
(12,452 posts)Link to tweet
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jalan48
(13,871 posts)AleksS
(1,665 posts)Is that her seat is a safe D seat. Manchin is at least keeping a the seat out of the hands of the GOP, and is better than any alternative that would get elected in WV.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,434 posts)There is a big problem with her statement. If it's true that no one talked to her about it, that is a big failure on someone's part. If they did, and she forgot, or is falsely claiming not to remember, it just adds to the call for her retirement.
Funtatlaguy
(10,879 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)tritsofme
(17,380 posts)Feinstein deserves to depart on her own terms, as so many of her colleagues in similar positions have over the years.
I wish folks here would hold their fire, but the time for quiet conversations and planning, has clearly come.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Nothing about now is.
JHB
(37,161 posts)"I do not believe you."
femmedem
(8,203 posts)there is often a phase where they are no longer capable of recognizing their deficits, but able to comprehend when people don't believe they are competent. And they can get very angry and defensive. It's part of the illness.
My mom was furious when we arranged to have her driver's license taken away, furious when we tried to help her with daily living. It was heartbreaking.
PortTack
(32,778 posts)Hits that say differently, that she was open to changing or end it
Pas-de-Calais
(9,904 posts)Takket
(21,578 posts)"no one has brought it up" seems as serious a symptom of Alzheimer as "i don't know who you are" when talking to your own child.
Not trying to kid around or anything, something is very wrong with her mentally if she is saying that. She needs to retire and get medical attention.
mathematic
(1,439 posts)If she wasn't old, I think people would interpret this as a variety of "no comment". Is there any more context to her statements?
WarGamer
(12,452 posts)Link to tweet
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Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)world wide wally
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seta1950
(932 posts)I believe sen. Feinstein needs to retire, as soon as possible.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)That said, California was blessed with a wonderful replacement for Barbara Boxer when she retired. Kamala Harris. Similarly, the very competent Alex Padilla has replaced Harris as she became VP.
All things being equal, and seeing how sharp she still is, I would have loved for Kamala Harris to have replaced Diane Feinstein rather than Boxer. Boxer had a good 10+ years in her when she retired in 2017. Check out her Twitter and then tell me we would be having this discussion about the Filibuster with her.
orleans
(34,060 posts)WarGamer
(12,452 posts)Especially someone with her resume?
She hasn't heard of this because she doesn't follow social media or activist websites.
As a SENATOR, it hasn't been brought to her attention.
Come on guys, she's NOT the enemy!
Here's her quotes on the filibuster, including reform:
https://www.businessinsider.com/dianne-feinstein-open-to-senate-filibuster-reform-2021-3
https://www.businessinsider.com/senate-democrats-cautious-on-killing-the-filibuster-biden-agenda-2020-8
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intheflow
(28,478 posts)in March 2021 she supported it, yesterday it was "the first time" she'd heard of it.
It was on her radar - and on her Senate page - two months ago. She obviously had heard about it. As a SENATOR.
WarGamer
(12,452 posts)She said she was open to MAKING CHANGES...
Which probably translates to a Manchin-like attitude...
Yesterday she said she hadn't heard about abolishing the filibuster.
See the difference?
Do you think any Senator or aide has approached DiFi and talked about abolishing the filibuster?
WarGamer
(12,452 posts)Link to tweet
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Nevilledog
(51,124 posts)WarGamer
(12,452 posts)People jump on her soooo fast.
I don't blame you.
There are certain people on social media who make a living out of posting outrage-bait stories.
They frequently mislead people for the clicks.
Cohen is one of the worst
Nevilledog
(51,124 posts)WarGamer
(12,452 posts)It's my habit...
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)The "rest of what she said" was released in March, while the tweeted quote came from today.
Seems to support the claim that she's not on the ball.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Kind of proves the point.
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PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)...Republicans suddenly love her.