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Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
Fri May 28, 2021, 07:15 AM May 2021

northern Cali cafe owner charging $5 for wearing mask, $5 for "bragging" about being vaccinated.




Fiddlehead's Cafe had previously posted a sign that read “Get your free COVID-19 vaccine card here!” The sign has since been removed.

Customers at one Northern California cafe were taken aback Monday morning after they got a glimpse of the new store policy that greeted them at the door.

“$5 FEE ADDED TO ORDERS PLACED WHILE WEARING A FACE MASK,” read the poster on the glass window at Fiddlehead’s Cafe in Mendocino. A second sign with the same memo was located by the register.



Just below the large print were two additional notes on the poster that warned guests if they were "caught bragging" about their vaccines “an additional $5 fee” would be added to their bill. The sign claims the fees will be donated to local charities assisting domestic abuse victims. (Previously, Fiddlehead’s Cafe had a second sign on its storefront that’s circulated on social media and read “Get your free COVID-19 vaccine card here!” The sign has since been removed.)


Owner Chris Castleman, who isn't new to sharing his political views, says that some customers have paid the $5 fee, while others have been outraged. Castleman blamed this outrage not on his mask fee but on the charitable component.

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As of Thursday afternoon, Fiddlehead Cafe’s business page has temporarily been disabled on Yelp to prevent reviews from being made following the signs placed on Monday. But it hasn’t prevented neighboring restaurant Mendocino Cafe from receiving unwanted attention, according to business owner Meredith Smith.

https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/fiddleheads-cafe-vaccines-mask-policy-sign-16206085.php
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northern Cali cafe owner charging $5 for wearing mask, $5 for "bragging" about being vaccinated. (Original Post) Demovictory9 May 2021 OP
Weird jimfields33 May 2021 #1
Offering counterfeit vaccinations cards is a felony. hlthe2b May 2021 #2
He removed the sign, but I'll bet he still has a stack of counterfeits he's giving out. Liberal In Texas May 2021 #4
I don't think they are enforcing that law fescuerescue May 2021 #7
You think not? Uggh, YES they HAVE! WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU DOWNPLAY THIS!!!? hlthe2b May 2021 #8
No need to be hysterical fescuerescue May 2021 #10
You think it appropriate to discount the law, and accuse a DUer who corrects you as "paranoid?" hlthe2b May 2021 #11
Oh settle down. fescuerescue May 2021 #12
Stop it, yourself. I am not going to allow you to justify behavior that puts others at serious risk hlthe2b May 2021 #13
Well I can't stop you from hitting your head against the wall fescuerescue May 2021 #15
I WILL NOT allow you to claim counterfeiting vaccine cards--that puts others at risk-- is NOT hlthe2b May 2021 #16
you are still projecting fescuerescue May 2021 #18
When he goes out of business, will he be taking the unemployment benefits? bullwinkle428 May 2021 #3
Ok what happens when a customer refuses to pay the $5 "fee" after a meal... mitch96 May 2021 #5
Vaccine cards are free, anyway, you dumbass. GoCubsGo May 2021 #6
He's probably blaming unemployment insurance for his hiring problem. Midnight Writer May 2021 #9
Not only an idiot ornotna May 2021 #14
Chris castleman should be in jail. rockfordfile May 2021 #17

jimfields33

(15,808 posts)
1. Weird
Fri May 28, 2021, 07:20 AM
May 2021

Probably legal. Companies giving free items for shot. So I guess adding cost to mask wearers could be seen as legally allowable. Our country has them all.

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
2. Offering counterfeit vaccinations cards is a felony.
Fri May 28, 2021, 07:25 AM
May 2021
https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2021/PSA210330

Don't have to believe me. Believe the FBI:

the unauthorized use of an official government agency's seal (such as HHS or the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)) is a crime, and may be punishable under Title 18 United States Code, Section 1017, and other applicable laws.

Liberal In Texas

(13,554 posts)
4. He removed the sign, but I'll bet he still has a stack of counterfeits he's giving out.
Fri May 28, 2021, 07:35 AM
May 2021

What a putz. He probably has no idea how many customers he's lost because of his stupidity.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
7. I don't think they are enforcing that law
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:52 AM
May 2021

I've not heard of any arrests or convictions.

But they should.

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
8. You think not? Uggh, YES they HAVE! WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU DOWNPLAY THIS!!!?
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:01 AM
May 2021
Sorry, but downplaying this crime is about as bad as RWers downplaying the insurrection. They are felonies that put others at risk!!!!

California Man Arrested In Suspected Fake COVID-19 Vaccine Card Operation
https://www.npr.org/2021/05/08/994967439/california-man-arrested-in-suspected-fake-covid-19-vaccine-card-operation

Undercover agents with the state's Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control bought the bogus cards for $20 each during multiple visits to the Old Corner Saloon in Clements, a small town in San Joaquin County.

The agents were told to write their names and birth dates on sticky notes and watched as employees cut the cards, added phony vaccination dates and laminated them, the Associated Press reported.

"On the back where they put the two dates when you were vaccinated, they used two different color pens to make it look like it was two different times," supervising agent Luke Blehm told the AP. "So they went to some effort to make it look authentic."

The owner, Todd Anderson, was arrested on Tuesday and charged with identity theft, forging government documents, falsifying medical records and having a loaded unregistered handgun, San Joaquin County District Attorney Tori Verber Salazar said in a statement this week.



Pharmacy Employee Arrested With Fake Vaccination Cards
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210518/pharmacy-employee-arrested-with-fake-vaccination-cards



May 18, 2021 -- A Long Island man who worked at a CVS was arrested last week after police said they found 62 fake COVID-19 vaccination cards inside his vehicle.

Police conducting a drug trafficking investigation on May 11 saw a man sitting in a car with the engine running, WABC reported. The driver got out of his car when officers approached and they noticed brass knuckles inside the vehicle.

A search of the car turned up 62 vaccination cards, eight of them filled out with the name left blank and the rest not filled out. Some cards were dated for last week and other 30 days ahead, police told WABC.

Zachary Honig, 21, was charged with eight counts of criminal possession of a forged instrument, criminal possession of a controlled substance, criminal possession of a weapon, and petit larceny, WABC reported.

It was unclear where the cards came from, police said.

"His intent was to share them with family members and friends (so) that they can go into venues and possibly even use them at school when they go back in September," Nassau County Police Commissioner Patrick Ryder said.

"You can't have scams like this occurring. The idea of getting us all back to normal is that when you walk into a place and they're requiring that card, you want to make sure that card is factual."

CVS said it’s cooperating with the police investigation and has fired the suspect.



45 Attorneys General, including Colorado, cracking down on fake COVID-19 vaccine cards
https://krdo.com/news/2021/04/16/45-attorneys-general-including-colorado-cracking-down-on-fake-covid-19-vaccine-cards/

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
10. No need to be hysterical
Sat May 29, 2021, 11:43 AM
May 2021

I didn't downplay anything.

So they have enforced it. That's awesome. That's all ya had to say. Thanks for the links. (It's interesting that both cases also involved illegal handguns)

No need to be paranoid and make comparisons to RW'ers.

FWIW. I'm still waiting for someone to ask me for my card. So far it's just lonely in my stack of papers.

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
11. You think it appropriate to discount the law, and accuse a DUer who corrects you as "paranoid?"
Sat May 29, 2021, 11:46 AM
May 2021

Shame on you! You need to educate yourself, rather than lash out at those who merely show you the proof that you and your assumptions are wrong. And no, justifying breaking the law to counterfeit vaccine documents is anything BUT a democratic, progressive philosophy. It is, however, exactly what those on the RW are promoting.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
12. Oh settle down.
Sat May 29, 2021, 11:52 AM
May 2021

Shame on you.

I was mistaken about the number of people prosecuted. You let me know that 2 people have been arrested,

Thank you for correcting my error. I appreciate it. (I do)

Also stop projecting. No one has justified anything. Nor lashing out.

Are you ok? This is just a message board you know. It's ok.

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
13. Stop it, yourself. I am not going to allow you to justify behavior that puts others at serious risk
Sat May 29, 2021, 11:54 AM
May 2021

and as a primary HCW, I've had my share of death that comes as a result of such horrendous, inexcusable and irresponsible behaviors that you seem to discount as no more than "hysteria"

YES. SHAME ON YOU!

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
15. Well I can't stop you from hitting your head against the wall
Sat May 29, 2021, 04:21 PM
May 2021

So I'm just going to leave you alone.

I cannot keep up with your projections anyway. Any by the way, you don't get to "allow" or disallow me to do anything.

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
16. I WILL NOT allow you to claim counterfeiting vaccine cards--that puts others at risk-- is NOT
Sat May 29, 2021, 04:33 PM
May 2021

a big deal, even though I have amply documented that it is a felony now being prosecuted fully. It puts countless others at risk. I and many other HCWs on this site put our own lives on the line to prevent fatal outcomes and to counter such BS. So, keep it up. I WiLL rebut every inaccurate post you make and expose you for doing it.

Whether or not you care about others and the risks such behavior presents, most on this site DO.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
18. you are still projecting
Sat May 29, 2021, 05:28 PM
May 2021

When you stop screaming at the keyboard and monitor. re-reread the thread. Please. I'm serious.

Take a breath. Breathe. Breathe. Relax. This is not worth having a heart attack or stroke over. Just text on a screen.

Bottom line. I said that they aren't prosecuting that crime. You proved me wrong by pointing out two instances where it has happened (along with gun charges).

You corrected me. This is the second time I have acknowledged a mistake.

What else could you possibly want?

mitch96

(13,907 posts)
5. Ok what happens when a customer refuses to pay the $5 "fee" after a meal...
Fri May 28, 2021, 07:53 AM
May 2021

Cops? Lawyers? The repukes wet dream of a Supreme Court challange?
m

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
6. Vaccine cards are free, anyway, you dumbass.
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:44 AM
May 2021

In fact, they come with a vaccination, which is also free. Only members of The Idiocracy pay for them. And, anyone who paid that "fine" or made an issue out of it while continuing to give this asshole their businss, is part of The Idiocracy. They should have just found somewhere else to eat.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
9. He's probably blaming unemployment insurance for his hiring problem.
Fri May 28, 2021, 04:54 PM
May 2021

People don't want to work anymore...for assholes.

ornotna

(10,801 posts)
14. Not only an idiot
Sat May 29, 2021, 12:00 PM
May 2021

But I suspect a liar as well.

Owner Chris Castleman, who isn't new to sharing his political views, says that some customers have paid the $5 fee, while others have been outraged. Castleman blamed this outrage not on his mask fee but on the charitable component.


Seriously doubt anyone was outraged about that part of his shakedown.
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