Something is very wrong with a political system where the party responsible

[malaise]

for attempting a coup can block an investigation into said attempted coup. What makes it worse is that they still refuse to accept the election results. And fuck all of M$M pushing the line that this is about power. This is about overthrowing the democratic political system for authoritarian rule.
This is effin'madness. Use the Constitution and banish these mother effers. Sedition is sedition.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. 2022 will be madness, violence. Etc. I am enjoying life now because I am certain

these fascist Nazi racists are gonna start killing people. They already did.

[malaise]

28. And they will continue in 2021

[wnylib]

41. I like your use of the word "seditionists" in the OP.

It's accurate and sounds stronger than insurrectionists.

I want to see a special prosecutor appointed instead of a commission or House investigation. DOJ supervision of a special prosecutor has more clout than House subpoenas which will be ignored.

[malaise]

49. Special prosecutor would be good

but I'll take all of them - this one must be taken seriously and there must be consequences

[wnylib]

52. Absolutely.

[malaise]

50. Special prosecutor would be good

but I'll take all of them - this one must be taken seriously and there must be consequences

[Warpy]

2. Manchin needs a clue by four between the eyes

He knows damned full well some of them are guilty as sin and the rest are covering for them because they want those votes.

He just won't abandon slavery's best friend, the filibuster.

I still say offer him a suspension for two years, during which time the rules can be examined so that one man won't hold the power McConnell has. Force a vote to filibuster and have the proponents get up and start talking. A filibuster should be last ditch and rare, not ordinary business as usual to hamstring the majority party.

[gab13by13]

4. Manchin will never win reelection,

no matter what he does. He should realize that and do what's right for the country.

[Lonestarblue]

6. Plus, he will be 74 in a couple of months and not up for reelection until 2024 when he will be 77.

When is enough enough? Why do people need to try to stay in the Senate forever? He narrowly won his 2018 election, and unless something changes drastically in W. Virginia politics, he is likely to lose in 2024. He could actually better his odds by voting to kill the filibuster and get Biden’s jobs and infrastructure plans into law, which would benefit West Virginians harmed by the decline of coal. I really do not understand his reluctance.

[Tommymac]

34. Corporate Donations. Simple as that.

All Democrats are not full Democrats - some have gotten greedy at the donation trough created by The Clinton Machine in the late 1980's to offset the loss of revenue from the Unions Raygun busted.

Thank Ronnie and the GOP once again.

Joe M. is just being a corporate politician. It's all BAU to him.

[ewagner]

67. Good point

The Clintons created the DLC in order to tap into campaign cash...we're still suffering from it.

[wnylib]

42. Unless he is also one of the compromised ones

who needs to cover his own ass.

[spanone]

3. I agree. America is broken and the republicons broke it.

[hadEnuf]

5. Appoint a special prosecutor. Who cares if the right screeches that it's partisan....

they will no matter who investigates.

[leftieNanner]

20. Or Speaker Pelosi can

appoint a Select Committee in the House.

That's what the Republicans did with Benghazi.

I think a Special Prosecutor would come out of the DOJ, which wouldn't be a bad idea either.

[malaise]

29. She had better

How does the Democratic Party work with seditionists?

[wnylib]

45. They would thumb their noses at

a special committee in the House and ignore all subpoenas. It would work only if DOJ enforces subpoenas, but count on them to tie up the courts with objections.

Special prosecutor would accomplish more.

[wnylib]

43. 100% agree. They will scream partisan no matter what.

[gulliver]

7. Yep, it's absolutely clear corruption on the part of Republicans

They're covering up illegality and insurrection by Republicans. There can be no clearer evidence that they are corrupt.

[uponit7771]

8. "This is about overthrowing the democratic political system " 👈🏾THIS !! How many times have we ...

... seen this in done in other countries!?!?

[malaise]

30. I lived it which is why

I see all the signs of subversion and sedition

[uponit7771]

32. If you mean lived it could you do an OP on similarities? I only know about a historical ...

... perspective and know we're take relative stability for granted

People need to see what's coming

[malaise]

33. Corrected

And yes 1976 to 1980. Destabilization is something to witness.

[gab13by13]

9. Sinema and Murray were no shows

and Pat Toomey was a no show who stated he was prepared to vote for the commission, that brings the vote to 58, 2 short.

[leftieNanner]

21. Patty Murray had a family emergency at home. nt

[Blue Owl]

10. Here's my Memorial Day Weekend Fuck Checklist:

Fuck Donald T***p and his rotten family.

Fuck Mike Pence.

Fuck Rudy Giuliani.

Fuck Mike Flynn.

Fuck Mitch McConnell.

Fuck Rush Limbaugh in his grave.

Fuck Matt Gaetz.

Fuck Marjorie Taylor Greene. Twice.

Fuck Lauren BimBoebert.

Fuck Joe Manchin.

Fuck Madison Cawthorn.

Fuck Tucker Carlson.

Fuck Sean Hannity.

Fuck Mike Lindell and his goddamned foamsacks.

Fuck the M$M.

Fuck that ridiculous, obsolete Filibuster.

Fuck the GQP who are now Democracy's worst enemy.

Who'd I miss?

[smirkymonkey]

12. You forgot Madison Cawthorn, Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity.

Hell, there are too many more of them to name.

[Blue Owl]

14. Edited to include those three rat bastards, plus Mike "MyPillow" Lindell

Thanks!

[malaise]

55. Serious list dat

[MarcoZandrini]

70. You need to add...

....Qanon.

[smirkymonkey]

11. Hear, hear!

[2naSalit]

13. At this point they have gone far beyond...

Proving that they are trying to overthrow the government. This IS about power, the media simply refuse to say it's name.

[hay rick]

15. American democracy is the lobster wondering why the water keeps getting warmer.

The M$M serves a master other than the American people.

[gab13by13]

18. Cable news had better start thinking about

what will happen to them under a dictatorship.

[temporary311]

37. They're probably thinking

they'll have the resources to leave before that happens, and some of them are probably right.

[ffr]

17. malaise for congress 2022!

[Butterflylady]

19. Here's my vote!

[malaise]

31. Ha

Not eligible

[czarjak]

22. "The American Dream is dead". Remember?

[Kablooie]

23. In 2022 it's very likely that the seditionists will control Congress.

Historically the opposition takes control in midterms when a president wins Congress.

This combined with:
- new census gerrymandering
- states making laws to handicap Democratic voters
- states setting up government systems that could overturn vote results they don't like
- a majority of states are Republican run
- and RW media will enrage Republican voters to get out and vote while Democratic voters will feel relatively content and stay home.

All this makes it likely that seditionists will take control of Congress and will attempt to rig the systems even more so that they can never be removed.
It's not going to be pretty.

[wnylib]

47. I think they will take the House,

but not the Senate. No gerrymandering for Senate seats.

[Kablooie]

57. Even without gerrymandering they have a good shot at taking the Senate.

due to all the other factors I mentioned above.

[roamer65]

60. This is why we may eventually have no choice but secession.

2026 may be the year of secession referenda in states like NY, CA, OR, WA and the New England states. Others will follow.

When a marriage is irreparably broken, there is no alternative but divorce.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

63. Maryland is a democratic state

Even though Hogan is the mayor. Also includes DC.

[malaise]

65. And that is Putin's only goal

Do to the US what he thinks the US did to the USSR

[roamer65]

71. The other choice may be to live under fascism, malaise.

I for one, will not tolerate it.

I had relatives who fought against them in WW2.

Sadly, seems like another fight is coming. I hope for the best, but am preparing for the worst.

[malaise]

72. I'm with you

Trup will lose again

[roamer65]

74. If he doesn't, it's the end of the United States.

[Elessar Zappa]

66. States would never be allowed to secede.

The Civil War settled that. I guarantee you if the the repubs were in control and the blue states tried to secede, they’d send in the military. No way they allow economic powerhouses like California and New York to leave.

[roamer65]

82. The military would fragment.

[Saoirse9]

24. Nancy will still investigate.

And they won't be able to block subpoenas or witnesses.

[wnylib]

51. Why won't they be able to block subpoenas?

They will just ignore them. If DOJ enforces subpoenas, they will take the role of martyrs, suffering for the cause of freedumbs and rile up their followers.

[Saoirse9]

54. By blocking subpoenas I meant

that the rules proposed said that they could vote on who was subpoenaed. Now they can't.

If they refuse to cooperate (answer subpoenas) I hope they do the necessary to compel them.

I'm very afraid that they won't.

[wnylib]

56. I, too, doubt that subpoenas will be enforced

when they are ignored.

That's why I prefer a special counsel prosecutor.

[Snackshack]

25. There's nothing wrong...

With the system. Framing it like that makes it sound like it’s the system is doing this not the people. There is no government, process, procedure, system, LAW in the world that will work when the people in charge don’t have the will to use the capabilities available. The GOP is using everything they can as the minority to block, obstruct, delay, ignore any accountability for 1/6 or the Pandemic. The Dems are not using everything they can as the majority to investigate, understand, hold accountable those who made 1/6 happen.

[Evolve Dammit]

26. Spot on Malaise

[Justice matters.]

27. In criminal terms it's called...

coveR-up.

[Tommymac]

35. It will all be over one way or another in 2022, 2024 at the latest.

We The People can pressure the Centrist and Progressive Dems, and the media that is still reachable, to move unilaterally to save Our Democracy.

Or we can sit back along with the conserva Dems led by Manchin, Sinema, (and Feinstein to a lesser extent) and do business as usual and let the Big Lies percolate via a complicit Right Wing noise media and lazy, complicit, greedy, profit driven MSM and thus lose Our Constitution, Our Bill of Rights and all personal freedoms though inaction, complacence and plain just don't give a fuck.

It is all up to We The People. 100%.

Which route are you going to follow? Everything YOU do matters.

[malaise]

36. Well the people won in 2020 and on Jan 6

so I still remain hopeful.
That said serious reforms are needed urgently.

[Tommymac]

39. I am hopeful too, but also realist so I am prepared to live in an authoritarian state.

I just won't be allowed to live long.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

62. I feel the same way

That under authoritarianism I won't live long either.

Either shot for defending democracy.
Or my ssi/ hud/medical assistance cut. Without that help my PTSD or depression or my diabeties would kill me pretty fast.

I will take down any right wing butthole I can before I die if it comes to that horrible situation.

[malaise]

64. Hope lots of folks think like you

[scarytomcat]

38. justice must come down hard

the truth needs to be repeated over and over until people understand what happened. The results of this conspiracy needs to spoken of in terms of arrests and convictions. We need to hear who these people are. They are not Democrats or antifa and that needs to be made clear every time it is mentioned. This is not something that can be passed over.

[malaise]

40. THIS

I want prison for the seditionists

[bucolic_frolic]

44. Republican Elites control the Senate.

The Founders knew patriots and little else. They could not conceive of the modern MAGAt mind, and especially not the Insurrectionist Party.

Money has corrupted politics. It was sewn into the cloth of the Constitution. Men of property.

Elections are the strongest and yet the weakest point of democracy. Strongest because there is the opportunity for everyone to participate. Weakest because fair elections are decided at the margins, meaning those weak of mind, ignorant of politics, stupid, and especially gullible are the last to weigh in and the most heavily weighted in the outcome.

We went downhill after World War II, after Watergate, when money took over everything. I put this at about 1968. Money took over television, politics, sports. Compare the World Series 1968 with the 1970s. We now have the dumbest electorate relative to the subject of Civics, and all they care about is money, consumerism, and religion. It's as if they are tranquilized.

[malaise]

53. Yep - money rules

and many can be bought

[KPN]

76. "as if"?

Just saying ... otherwise, spot-on absolutely great post!

[Chicagogrl1]

58. We can investigate Clintons pecker

But can’t investigate a siege of the Capitol? I’m speechless. SMDH!!

[KPN]

77. THIS

[malaise]

80. An attempted coup!

and don't forget her emails

[Aussie105]

59. What strange sort of government is this?

The party-in-power goes to the party-not-in-power and says:

A bad thing happened. We want to investigate it!

And the party-not-in-power answers:

No, no way! You may discover how we were involved in this!

The party-in-power answers:

Aww, gee, can't go ahead then!

In most Democratic countries, the party-in-power can investigate what it likes, and the party-not-in-power can bitch, complain and cry victimization, but cannot affect the investigative process.

[malaise]

61. Correct is right

[INdemo]

68. Agreed and somewhere in the shadows is Putin calling the shots through

Donald Trump and leading Republicans like the Fascist McConnell and Johnson. Putin made the statement after Trump stole the 2020 election that our system of Government is out dated...

[Hotler]

69. Joe needs to stop being afraid of the word politicizing and turn the DOJ loose.

Stop playing nice Joe. It's time to get pissed and show us how scrappy you are. The Dick of death would have been renditioning people already. A little waterboarding didn't hurt anyone said Hannity.

[malaise]

73. +1,000

[KPN]

75. Hear, hear! Something IS very wrong. Here's my take on it in a nutshell ...

The 54 to 35 vote was 61% to 39% when you round the numbers.

It's not just wrong, but bizarre when a nation that tends to view itself as the greatest
democracy in the world is ruled by a 39 percent voting block over a 61% voting block.

That's not democracy by any stretch. If our legislative bodies don't function democratically, what good is so-called "democratic" representation? We don't have a democracy when it comes to representation. Neither the House or the Senate currently reflect the electoral vote or the policy wishes of the people.

There have also been times when the Presidency does not reflect the vote of the people as we well and painfully know.

We don't have a great, let alone the world's greatest democracy.

[malaise]

78. Excellent post

Should be an OP

[CrispyQ]

81. The dems lost the stomach for a real fight a long time ago. And the GOP knows it.

All they had to do was poke fun at the word liberal & we ran as fast as we could from it. What did that tell them? That they could sic the media machine on us & we would back down. At the same time, we ignored hate radio for 40 fucking years. The republicans have more successfully defined our party than we have ourselves. Tax & spend dems. Weak on immigration dems. Socialists dems. We dropped the ball big time, & we've been slooooooow to recover. We need a fucking marketing department, stat.

I have hope in the younger dems. They have some fight in them. I just hope we have a country left by the time they have the influence to do more.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

83. The founders fouled up the Senate based on Slavery at the time

They had no idea how the population would congeal in certain states. California and New York should have a far more say in the politics of the senate then Idaho, the dakota's and any other small states.

Second the power of the Television to numb and dumb down the electorate and has been vastly underestimated.

Finally, the basic elimination of civics being taught in school, means kids learn from their parents and really no longer think for themselves even though the ability to get correct information at their fingertips has vastly increased though tech.

[fescuerescue]

84. why Can't the police and FBI do a traditional investigation?

Like they do for other crimes?

How is that they have their hands tied? That is so criminal!