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kentuck

(111,106 posts)
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:25 PM May 2021

We need to change the paradigm.

The usual way of thinking about January 6th is not working.

We need a new way of looking at it.

We need a paradigm shift.

We need a shock to the system, in my opinion.

We need to trace the problem to its source and change the way we think about it.

Perhaps Republicans do not deserve the respect or credibility of a national Political Party?

Perhaps someone should be charged and arrested?

Insanity is doing and saying the same thing over and over. Perhaps we should not do it anymore?

What can we do to shock the system into a paradigm shift?

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We need to change the paradigm. (Original Post) kentuck May 2021 OP
The next election will settle this, Be patient. nt BootinUp May 2021 #1
So you believe there will be another election and it will be fair and aboveboard? kentuck May 2021 #2
The numbers are on our side nt BootinUp May 2021 #3
Voter suppression and message infrastructure is on theirs, we need to end one of those uponit7771 May 2021 #9
The media overall Bettie May 2021 #18
I'm with him. Ferrets are Cool May 2021 #4
Patience, Grasshopper... kentuck May 2021 #7
What could be done to in terms of some shock therapy? Irish_Dem May 2021 #5
I'm curious as well. calimary May 2021 #11
One thing that I think would shock the system and change the paradigm... kentuck May 2021 #13
I think the optics are bad on this one. Irish_Dem May 2021 #14
We can just sweep it under the rug... kentuck May 2021 #16
We cannot sweep it under the rug. And I like the shock and awe idea. Irish_Dem May 2021 #17
Follow the money that paid for the insurrection bottomofthehill May 2021 #6
In tracing the problem, moondust May 2021 #8
+1 CentralMass May 2021 #10
It's always a strategically smart bet. Follow the money. calimary May 2021 #12
I like your title pecosbob May 2021 #15
The News with the same old opinions time and time again pwb May 2021 #19
Tell that to the rightwing noise machine! ananda May 2021 #20
Fighting irrationality with rationality will not work Poiuyt May 2021 #21
We need to put duct-tape over Moscow Mitch's mouth FakeNoose May 2021 #22

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
2. So you believe there will be another election and it will be fair and aboveboard?
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:32 PM
May 2021

I wish I thought that.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
13. One thing that I think would shock the system and change the paradigm...
Sat May 29, 2021, 07:35 AM
May 2021

...would be to make them an offer they can't refuse.

If they do not approve the 1/6 Commission, then there will be no more filibuster. (That would require Manchin and Sinema doing something for their country, rather than themselves)

Irish_Dem

(47,184 posts)
14. I think the optics are bad on this one.
Sat May 29, 2021, 11:11 AM
May 2021

Looks like Dems are horse trading on very important issues.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
16. We can just sweep it under the rug...
Sat May 29, 2021, 12:48 PM
May 2021

...and soon, no one will remember that it happened. It will disappear. It will not go down in history. It will be forgotten.

Is that what Americans want?

An attack upon our nation's Capitol, in an attempt to stop the Electoral Count process in the Congress of the United States of America, caused great harm.

Can we really forget about it?

The President of the United States, an autocrat at heart, did not want to leave the White House. (He acted like a kid that did not want to go to bed, because his favorite TV show was coming on)

He inspired and requested that his fans come to Washington DC on January 6th.

When they got there, he incited them to go to the Capitol and to stop the electoral count of the votes. It was a dastardly act.

Now, we are to pretend it never happened? That is what the Republicans are saying. "Let's sweep it under the rug...soon, it will be forgotten."


Irish_Dem

(47,184 posts)
17. We cannot sweep it under the rug. And I like the shock and awe idea.
Sat May 29, 2021, 01:03 PM
May 2021

I think we will pull it off. Nancy P and Biden may have something in mind.

bottomofthehill

(8,336 posts)
6. Follow the money that paid for the insurrection
Sat May 29, 2021, 12:03 AM
May 2021

Political donors paid for this. Shut down the money by shaming those who paid for it. It won’t stop some right wing nuts, but American business can not survive this type of upheaval. Don’t let these nuts hide behind normalcy.

moondust

(20,001 posts)
8. In tracing the problem,
Sat May 29, 2021, 12:11 AM
May 2021

one place to investigate thoroughly is the Mercers.

How one billionaire family bankrolled election lies, white nationalism — and the Capitol riot

They have likely been involved in incentivizing and funding the fraudits, voter suppression laws, other Big Lie garbage, maybe threatening to withhold their hefty campaign contributions from Republicans who vote for the 1/6 commission, etc.

Follow the money.

pecosbob

(7,542 posts)
15. I like your title
Sat May 29, 2021, 11:15 AM
May 2021

I believe the real shift will come when more realize that the end never justifies the means. Bottom line...this is what differentiates our political parties. The parties have come to resemble those that populate them.

pwb

(11,280 posts)
19. The News with the same old opinions time and time again
Sat May 29, 2021, 02:08 PM
May 2021

maintain the status quo. Their questions are predictable or not there at all.
Welcome to our next hour of news. New talker but the same thing as the last hour. Tune in the next hour for even more of the same thing. We will hear from the same person we have heard from 50 times before.
Stale.

Poiuyt

(18,129 posts)
21. Fighting irrationality with rationality will not work
Sat May 29, 2021, 02:13 PM
May 2021

We need to use the techniques that cult deprogrammers use. (BTW, I don't know what those are).

FakeNoose

(32,680 posts)
22. We need to put duct-tape over Moscow Mitch's mouth
Sat May 29, 2021, 02:21 PM
May 2021

Seriously, that guy did so much damage. It would have passed without him getting involved.

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