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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEver see a kid fishing? There may be more to it than just fun.
That kid might be catching food for the family's next meal. Sometimes, in our affluent society, we dismiss that idea and think it no longer applies to anyone any more. Not true.
Rural kids in the US used to go to the local fishing hole and catch bullheads or something else. They brought them home to Mom, who turned them into a meal that saved the family some money in difficult times. The same is true today for some. I know that the Hmong kids in my neighborhood who ride their bicycles to the nearby lake always come home with a bag of fish. They'll be eating their catch.
I never really thought about that much. I was always a catch-and-release angler. A few times, though, when I was casually fishing for panfish and releasing them at a small lake, someone would ask me if they could have the fish I caught. I was good at catching them, and the kid on the dock wasn't necessarily so good at it. I finally figured out that those kids were fishing for dinner.
Back in the 1980s, I went on a performance tour with a choir and orchestra to the UK and Europe. When we first landed in London, we stayed at a hotel at Graves End, right on the Thames River. It was afternoon, and I was monstrously jet-lagged, so I went for a walk to try to tire myself out enough to sleep.
On a dock on the Thames, I encountered a boy, probably about 12 years old, fishing in the river. I asked him, "Are you having luck?"
He said, "I'd better have luck, or me Mum will have to open a tin."
That incident was the first time in my life that I realized that fishing is not just a sport for some people. It is food-gathering. It made me think. Learning to fish actually could be a life-saving skill at some point. It is a necessary skill in some parts of the world, even right where we live, sometimes. We don't often think about that.
Archae
(46,340 posts)He and I only went hunting a couple times, between us.
But we both loved fishing, and we liked CATCHING fish, not just fishing!
Being a native of Wisconsin, we'd catch a lot of bluegills, perch, crappies, bass and the occasional Northern Pike.
MineralMan
(146,320 posts)my childhood. Always to a river or lake. My favorite days were ones where I'd get up at dawn, wander down to the water and catch a mess of trout, before anyone else was up. I'd clean the fish on the spot. Then, we'd have trout and eggs for breakfast. My Mom would fry a few strips of bacon, then fry some eggs, and shake the trout in a plastic bag with flour, salt, and pepper, and fry them in the bacon drippings, too. Yum!
Archae
(46,340 posts)Fillet the panfish, dip them in melted butter, then in flour, and fry them up to a golden brown in an iron skillet.
I sure miss those days.
Lochloosa
(16,067 posts)MineralMan
(146,320 posts)It's uncommon in most places, though, but not in rural America.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)that's something alright
MontanaMama
(23,333 posts)On his bike and fishing the creek thats a hop from our house. He and his posse often do a 25 mile round trip bike/hike following that same creek up into a wilderness area to fly fish for cutthroat trout. They were all born and raised doing it and it thrills me when they all take off for the day with fly rods on their backs. The come home tired, hungry and full of stories about who caught what and if they saw a bear...its the best. For those kids, its freedom.
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)mostlly in a small creek near home; and bullheads were the usual catch. We kept them from 6 inches up. They provide a meal fit for a king (as I recall, ahem!). 60 years have gone by and I still fish when I can, in that same small creek. We eat the catfish I catch and the carp as well. Not because we must, we just like the fish. But... I haven't caught or seen a bullhead for probably 50 years.
Retired Engineer Bob
(759 posts)My dad and I would head up to Canada once a year for a quiet week of fishing. Got more than a few walleye and northern. Most were catch and release, but we had a nice walleye dinner two or three nights. These are some of my most cherished memories.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)He immigrated here from Eastern Europe a a child, and I'm not sure he even graduated from high school. Until WWII provided good-paying jobs, this is how they made do. They also had a garden, and my grandmother also raised chickens and rabbits. Grandpa continued fishing once they got on their feet better, but it was as much for fun as it was for a meal.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)We used to fill up the freezer with Seatrout, redfish, flounder, crab meat and shrimp we would catch. So I ate seafood all the time.
Luckily I never grew tired of fishing or seafood. Fishing is my number 1 hobby and fortunately the wife has learned to love it as much as I.
There is still nothing better than fish a few hours out of the water.
PhylliPretzel
(141 posts)This feminist. who is a retired teacher, now a widow, and mother of two grown daughters, believes you meant to add "outside the home for a salary."
I'll bet your mom worked from dawn to dark caring for her family; if your family had to hire help to provide the services your mother did, you couldn't have afforded those services.
ShazzieB
(16,455 posts)I'm old enough to have grown up in a time when very few married women worked a job outside their homes. If someone did, though, the term was "worked," not "worked for a paycheck" or "worked outside the home." I think it's human nature to shorten and abbreviate, but in this case, it really does give the wrong impression.
RegularJam
(914 posts)Exact same things I bring home. I often target snook but always let them go. In this area we call sea trout by a different name, speckled trout. At least I think we are talking about the same fish. I will say flounder arent around in this area like they once were. In the 80s we would catch doormat flounder. Now any flounder is hard to come by. I also luck into the occasional cobia or grouper.
KatyaR
(3,445 posts)America's Youth in Concert? I went to UK and Europe with them in the mid 70's.
MineralMan
(146,320 posts)They had the trip planned, and almost booked. Then, I suggested maybe they should take an orchestra with them. I happened to be playing oboe in a pickup orchestra for one of their concerts at the time, and had played with them for the "Messiah" for several years.
I guess the idea seemed like a good one, so the orchestra came along and they changed the concert program. 12 concerts in 14 days, and in six countries. We rode in two tour buses. It was a fun trip and we got to play in several big cathedrals and concert halls. Got good audiences, too.
Not amateur hour, either. The vocal arts ensemble had a strong national reputation. The orchestra was made up mainly of professional musicians, or semi-pros like me.
Good trip.
cayugafalls
(5,641 posts)The poor and worker class never had the luxury of fishing/hunting for sport, it was always about the table.
Some people need to learn by seeing poverty, others are poor and know all to well.
If we could just pop the bubble that the affluent live in once and for all.
malaise
(269,103 posts)here in Jamaica. Indeed they banned them from fishing at the city reservoir because one of them fell in and almost drowned.
ripcord
(5,466 posts)But many people add to their food budget by hunting, we have chukar and quail but the big freezer filler is wild hog since they are large and they are an invasive species there is no limit on how many you can take.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,423 posts)myself, brothers and dad would hunt deer, chukar, quail, etc. to feed the family during hard times.
Fond memories of days gone bye.
Delmette2.0
(4,168 posts)Andrew was born and raised in Norway and i think his love of the mountains helped him to love Montana.
I have home movies that have him and several of his adult children enjoying a day of fishing with his grandchildren.
I never participated in the fishing part of those outings. I am totally, happily surprised that my youngest son loves to fish. He is learning from friends. He hasn't brought home a fish to Mom, yet.
NNadir
(33,534 posts)It was when he was a boy in Brooklyn during the depression. He'd take subways and buses to Sheepshead Bay/Coney Island.
Apparently he was good at it, and actually learned to love fishing. I guess he got lots of praise from my grandmother when the family had something to eat.
Apparently he fantasized about fishing with a future son, who would turn out to be me.
It was so important to him that he was really wound up when he took me with him when I was 5 or 6.
As a result, I hate fishing, although I loved my father very much and forced myself to go with him on Father's Day or his birthday.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,018 posts)whatever fish he brought home might be be pretty sketchy to eat.
Around us, in Boston, some rivers have "Don't eat the fish" in several languages, including Vietnamese, and Portuguese. The polution legacy of tanning factories, etc from ages past.
jpak
(41,758 posts)When I was a lad.
We got up just before dawn to fish in the brook behind the house.
When we got home Mom would fry the fish and make us a bowl of cornmeal mush.
When we caught a bunch of hornpout (catfish) she would make a pile of hush puppies.
Yum
Yup
Tikki
(14,559 posts)I love it.
But you are correct; many people and families fish for food on the table.
Pier fishing is free for all ages fishing off California State and some Community Piers.
And yes, when anyone catches what they want or need everyone on the pier rejoices.
Tikki
MineralMan
(146,320 posts)Here's it's docks. However, there is an amazing fishing dock in St. Paul on the Mississippi. Few people fish there, but the chances of catching a big one are good. My best was a 35 pound channel catfish. Huge carp, too, along with walleye and many other species.
I used to fish there frequently in the summer. Tourists would come out on the dock and would always stop and ask me questions about what you could catch in the middle of the city. Generally, about the time they'd ask, I'd hook something and get to show it to them and give them a little naturalist description of what it was, what it ate, etc. Then, I'd release it, as usual.
My favorite tourist story involved a family from Ireland who came out on the dock while exploring St. Paul. Three stairstep children, all gingers. Naturally, I caught a big carp, about 30" long, so I asked the roughly 12-year-old girl to help me net the fish with my big net. She did a good job of it, too, and was so excited. I gave my little nature talk, too, and let the kids touch the fish, etc. When they left, the Dad said, "Thank you so much for providing such an entertaining time for my children."
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)to try and catch a fish, stripers are all over the place. Not the usual combination fishing from an obscure section of the river. Most are out in there fishing boats.
Layzeebeaver
(1,625 posts)...with a spinning rod.
At 4 I was in waders with a fly rod and a hand tied fly.
At 5 my grandfather taught me to shoot a .22 class long rifle.
It's the fishing that I will keep with me - along with her 1920's gear.
Thankfully, it has not needed to be a means of my subsistence.
MineralMan
(146,320 posts)spanone
(135,855 posts)We always put the fish back.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)Many states have programs like this one as well.
https://www.wvdnr.gov/Hunting/HHH.shtm
lookyhereyou
(140 posts)and kids learning and eating and this is why pollution really matters.
Retired Engineer Bob
(759 posts)Its a good way to get children to appreciate a clean environment. Getting kids outdoors and exposing them to nature is important.
My dads conservation club would occasionally do volunteer work for the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources. One project was to convince folks that their lakeside homes/cabins needed to be on a sewer system or have holding tanks. They would pour purple dye into their toilet, flush, and go out by the pier. Within 15-20 minutes, they could see the dye seeping into the lake. Occasionally there would be kids swimming nearby. It was pretty convincing.