**How about, instead of calling the 'others' fat pigs, and using the 'F-' word every other sentence,

[elleng]

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we encourage the media AND courts to refer to facts that appeared in Richard Engle and MSNBC's piece tonight, On Assignment with Richard Engel, Our House, and try to save our democracy that way, with FACTS,

FORCE, through power of persuasion, Congress to examine what happened.

**EDIT:


Rep. Gerry Connolly Calls On Biden To Create Jan. 6 Commission After 'Cowardly' GOP Vote

“In light of the GOP’s cowardly filibuster of a bipartisan January 6th Commission, I urge President Biden to form and appoint a Presidential Commission to fully investigate the insurrection at the United States Capitol, to identify the individuals and organizations who plotted or were involved in those violent acts, and to make recommendations to prevent such an attack from ever recurring,” Connolly said in a statement Saturday. The Virginia lawmaker is the chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Subcommittee on Government Operations.

A legal adviser to the government’s 9/11 Commission also called for a presidential commission. The nation must investigate the “worst attack on the Capitol since the War of 1812,” Lance Cole, a Pennsylvania State University law professor, urged in the New York Daily News on Friday.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gerry-connolly-jan-6-presidential-commission-biden_n_60b2b7efe4b04ddf13eea4cb

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215478657

[Hugh_Lebowski]

1. I'm PC enough to not call people fat, but avoiding that other word? Not gonna happen ;) nt

[AZ8theist]

3. me neither...

AND..........since I'm ACTUALLY over 300 pounds, and in much better shape than the TRAITOR LYING VILE SCUMBAG Doturd who claims he's 239 pounds, I will STILL CALL HIM A FAT PIG.

Deal with it, people.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

12. Same here

I'm fat too..and I agree with you.

[OAITW r.2.0]

7. I'm partial to - "fucking assholes" - doe this work?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

8. Works for me my friend (nt)

[ShazzieB]

25. 👍👍👍👍👍

[2naSalit]

10. Yup.

[nilram]

16. This tweet just came across my feed...

Link to tweet

But, yeah, I'm otherwise okay with attempting persuasion.

[crickets]

22. .

Okay, I actually agree with the OP for the most part, that pounding facts is more useful than name calling and cussing, but I have to admit that tweet is hilarious. Thanks for a great laugh.

[nilram]

24. yes, ditto, but it was an amusing coincidence

[malaise]

38. Me

Hold my seat

[SoCalDavidS]

2. Facts, Reality, Science

They believe in NONE of those things.

[elleng]

4. so We the People give it up to 'them?'

I have 4 young grandkids; I'm going to Baseball.

I quit.

[dem4decades]

5. F word? What are you saying?

[elleng]

6. Something like this:

'I wonder if the Democrats are planning something big.'

'That's my theory. I believe the Dems has a massive plan in the works and their current laid back, moving slow, not taking things seriously enough demeanor is a bluff.'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215478413

[sprinkleeninow]

11. I am sensing that same thing.

[Ferrets are Cool]

14. I wish I had your optimism.

[elleng]

17. I'm not at ALL optimistic,

I took this from Dr. Jack: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215478413

[Ferrets are Cool]

31. Thanks for the link

I'm at the "believe it when I see it" stage.

[cayugafalls]

28. We can only hope as we are the little people.

They are the ones playing games with our future.

Let's hope they are playing to win.

[malaise]

39. Dems do have a massive plan in the works

Of that I have no doubt

[Voltaire2]

42. Lulzd.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

9. Sometimes frustration and disgust

erupts and things get said, I have no pity or tolerance left in me for fascist seditionists and thier allies.

If they had thier way I would be dead.

I prioritize who I show my kindness to.
We all do this.

Sometimes things get ugly and ranting about it and calling ugly,ugly is one way to cope with how ugly humanity can get.

There are better people than I who can persuade and use facts in a way that stops terrorists to stop being terrorists.

I don't have the skills or psychological ability to do it myself.

[PaulnFortWorth]

13. I Don't Think You Can "Force" Republicans To See Facts They Don't Agree With

even if science, physics, modern medicine and chemistry all agree with facts. A lot of republicans are insecure racists who will cling to other racists and the accompanying dogma.

[JoeOtterbein]

15. Being kind...

...scares the hell out of evil people.

Try it. It works!

[elleng]

19. I have little confidence in such, even tho it's in my nature AND

that of President Biden.

[JoeOtterbein]

23. Trust your...

...gut. It works too. Just like you, Joe and I already know.

[superpatriotman]

18. The F word...Fascism?

I will continue to use it as it is wholly appropriate

[elleng]

20. No, THIS word:

FUCK.

[Voltaire2]

43. Oh fuck that noise.

I’m fine with not fat shaming. But fainting over fuck bombs is ridiculous.

[Warpy]

21. Are you trying to deny Dumdum is fat?

Honestly, "fat" is just a descriptive. "Pig" is the pejorative.
f
Besides, the "others" are deluded dimwits. I have no information about their individual or collective weight. They have amply demonstrated their individual and collective intellectual level.

However, your point about slicing and dicing with appropriate language is well taken.

[AZ8theist]

37. Perhaps the "fat" is between their ears.......just sayin'...

[cayugafalls]

26. For some reason "having zero ducks to give" just doesn't measure up.

Facts? You mean fake news? The other side does not believe in facts.

When dealing with ignorant FUCKING morons, there is only so much persuasion you can try before they drop their heads and roll their eyes and tell you you are full of shit for spewing fake news.

I'm tired of trying to reason with assholes.

ymmv...

[Rhiannon12866]

27. As usual, Richard Engel and MSNBC did an outstanding and fact-based job

Everyone who refuses to face the facts of this violent insurrection needs to see it.

[elleng]

29. Exactly; that's what got me on this 'rant' 'tack.'

[Rhiannon12866]

30. How anyone can continue to lie about what the entire country has seen on video

Is a mystery to me - not to mention the members of Congress, staff and Capitol workers who were terrorized and are still suffering trauma. The fact that people died and over 100 - especially Capitol Police - were injured should speak for itself. The brave Capitol Police officer who spoke in the documentary should be the final word - he was there.

[elleng]

32. which is why I want Engle/MSNBC/ALL rational viewers to REPUBLISH it, early and OFTEN.

[Rhiannon12866]

33. Apparently this excellent piece was originally shown before, was repeated tonight

And I agree that this really told the accurate story - no big surprise if Richard Engel was involved - and needs to be shown again, and often. I realize that the Republicans who were present at the time will continue to obfuscate and outright lie, but the public deserves to see the truth close up!

[elleng]

34. Yes, the public deserves to see the truth close up ESPECIALLY to see

that the Republicans who were present at the time will continue to obfuscate and outright lie.

[Rhiannon12866]

35. When they do form a commission - and they will - they need to call that Capitol Police officer

To testify. I can't remember his name now, he spoke out towards the end and he was incredibly persuasive. Everyone need to hear him!

[elleng]

36. Yes

[malaise]

40. This should be played over and over while showing

the seditionists attacking Capitol Hill

[muriel_volestrangler]

41. Was there a problem with anyone calling "the others" "fat pigs"?

Looking on DU, I can see threads about the former guy calling women "fat pigs". I can see an occasional use of "fat pig" about him - nothing, I think, since he lost in 2020.

What gave you the impression that people connected with DU are spending too much time calling "the others" (Republicans or Trump voters, I presume you mean) "fat pigs"? Especially in connection with 1/6, or voter suppression (the danger to democracy)?