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ffr

(22,671 posts)
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 09:22 AM Jun 2021

Frank Figliuzzi sounds alarmed. You have to dismantle terror threat leadership.

Frank Figliuzzi calls QAnon a worsening domestic terror threat and says their leadership must be dismantled including members of Congress, associates of Trump, and even Trump himself.




I agree.
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Frank Figliuzzi sounds alarmed. You have to dismantle terror threat leadership. (Original Post) ffr Jun 2021 OP
I agree OLDMDDEM Jun 2021 #1
Correct. Im afraid time isn't onour side here. The longer they delay onetexan Jun 2021 #5
I'm 73 years old OLDMDDEM Jun 2021 #6
Same here, at 77 Mickju Jun 2021 #7
45's crimes completely overshadow Nixon's Loge23 Jun 2021 #19
I agree with you OLDMDDEM Jun 2021 #26
me too Alien Life Form Jun 2021 #32
they are incapable of shame anymore. Zero. It is a full-on cult and you're with 'em or agin 'em. n/t Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #21
No doubt OLDMDDEM Jun 2021 #27
you can't negotiate azureblue Jun 2021 #16
I remember hearing OLDMDDEM Jun 2021 #28
K&R, otherwise it grows uponit7771 Jun 2021 #2
I like Frank. He is serious and is not afraid to speak out on Trump issues. He seems to say more Frustratedlady Jun 2021 #3
If Frank is alarmed, I'm alarmed. luvs2sing Jun 2021 #4
Yes, agree-- I hope his old collaegues at the DOJ are listening! LymphocyteLover Jun 2021 #11
Agree.... ewagner Jun 2021 #13
State voting laws are working against us Cyrano Jun 2021 #8
How do you dismantle such groups when they hide behind free speech rights? Lonestarblue Jun 2021 #9
Yes, agree-- not sure what he means by "dismantle" LymphocyteLover Jun 2021 #10
I do like the sound of "dismantling" Trump though... lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #14
I'd pay good money to see that LymphocyteLover Jun 2021 #29
like what happened to the Klan azureblue Jun 2021 #17
sorry I don't know-- but how was the klan dismantled? LymphocyteLover Jun 2021 #30
RICO charges meadowlander Jun 2021 #35
interesting--- thanks! LymphocyteLover Jun 2021 #36
There needed to be an investigation into the Jan. 6th attempted coup immediately. Instead months doc03 Jun 2021 #12
He's right seta1950 Jun 2021 #15
I've always counted on the military and police forces to be the bulward that shields the country, BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #18
Post removed Post removed Jun 2021 #20
Say what? Sugarcoated Jun 2021 #22
His first name is literally Caesar. gordianot Jun 2021 #23
I agree. ananda Jun 2021 #24
Watched Figliuzzi these many months bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #25
But But But, why is he trying to scare everyone. Everything is FINE!! onecaliberal Jun 2021 #31
Figliuzzi is correct Alice Kramden Jun 2021 #33
He is correct KT2000 Jun 2021 #34
What does dismantle mean in this situation? BigmanPigman Jun 2021 #37
Rt TY frr! Cha Jun 2021 #38
Here's one more you'll like then, Cha. ;) ;) ffr Jun 2021 #45
YES TY! I told my sister Cha Jun 2021 #46
The longer we stall, the more drastic the "solution" to this problem will become. roamer65 Jun 2021 #39
While I agree that Trump and others should pay some consequences for repeating QAnon lies, there Martin68 Jun 2021 #40
Yes, this. n/t ms liberty Jun 2021 #41
Dismantle Trump. rickyhall Jun 2021 #42
Amen Joinfortmill Jun 2021 #43
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #44
He talks about that frequently on his blog and podcast. WarGamer Jun 2021 #47
K & R Nevilledog Jun 2021 #48

OLDMDDEM

(1,577 posts)
1. I agree
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 09:26 AM
Jun 2021

Once this is accomplished, Joe can begin healing the country politically. Currently, we are swimming in a cesspool of right wing voting laws that are unconstitutional. We have been invaded by autocratic rwnjs. How anyone can say they are patriotic to this country and be a member of that party is beyond me.

onetexan

(13,061 posts)
5. Correct. Im afraid time isn't onour side here. The longer they delay
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jun 2021

Prosecution the more this insurrectionw be swept under the rug. The RWNJs are good at framing that messaging &spreading lies, distortions & misinformation.

OLDMDDEM

(1,577 posts)
6. I'm 73 years old
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 09:49 AM
Jun 2021

and have never seen a party shame themselves the way the repugs are. I can remember cooperation between parties. I remember Watergate. Cooperation was had and the crook resigned. Now, we have a party that supports someone that cannot/will not get re-elected legally and simply milks his party faithful for all he can get. He needs to be brought down several notches.

azureblue

(2,151 posts)
16. you can't negotiate
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 11:13 AM
Jun 2021

with a group who wants to overthrow the government by force. America is failing to recognize what these right wing groups are - Bully fascists.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
3. I like Frank. He is serious and is not afraid to speak out on Trump issues. He seems to say more
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 09:35 AM
Jun 2021

between the lines, if you listen closely, than some of the others and when he is deeply concerned, I follow his lead. Several of those guys (former FBI/security) have been expressing their thoughts on the threat to our democracy and I think people are beginning to take heed.

I would suspect there are many things going on in the background with these conspiracy nuts and with QAnon and the white supremacists who are still avoiding jail after 1/6, everyone needs to watch their backs. Hopefully, Trump will spill a lot of information once he starts those damned rallies this month.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
13. Agree....
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 10:52 AM
Jun 2021

Frank is not an alarmist....he's a serious investigator...

I got the same message during a phone call with a trusted close relative....I didn't take him seriously...

Maybe I should have.

Cyrano

(15,060 posts)
8. State voting laws are working against us
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 10:10 AM
Jun 2021

Unless the Democrats can kill the filibuster, many of the insane state voting laws currently being passed will stand. And this means that the Republican/Fascist Party can steal the 2022 and 2024 elections. And that will be the end of American democracy.

The Big Lie and QANON are deadly dangers to our freedoms. State voting laws are the tools they are using to seize control.

Lonestarblue

(10,078 posts)
9. How do you dismantle such groups when they hide behind free speech rights?
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 10:13 AM
Jun 2021

Are our domestic terrorism laws strong enough, and are they being enforced (definitely not under Trump)?

“Under (federal law), 18 USC § 2331:

(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that –

(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

(B) appear to be intended

(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion;  or

(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping;  and

(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.”

The Patriot Act also provides some protections, but it seems that groups have to use actual violence rather than words to merit prosecution.

azureblue

(2,151 posts)
17. like what happened to the Klan
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 11:16 AM
Jun 2021

Essentially the same type of group. But Law enforcement lets the Proud boys get away with a lot of law breaking, so the first step would be to treat them the same way that the cops treat Black protesters.

meadowlander

(4,406 posts)
35. RICO charges
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 03:16 PM
Jun 2021

The whole organisation is held responsible for the criminal activities of individual members. The feds used charges against some leaders to seize the physical assets of the whole organisation including a lot of real estate which helped to bankrupt them.

doc03

(35,378 posts)
12. There needed to be an investigation into the Jan. 6th attempted coup immediately. Instead months
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 10:27 AM
Jun 2021

have gone by and in the meantime the Q nut noise machine has been able to downplay how serious it was. The Q cult
has been brainwashed that it was really BLM and AnTi fa. just a normal tourist visit or they hugged and
kissed the cops. It doesn't matter they will claim all the above. Congress spent weeks trying to get
a commission to investigate Jan 6th when we all new that the Senate would never vote for it. Here it is
5 moths latter and nothing has been accomplished. The Q nut noise machine is still spreading their propaganda and the
criminal x president is still spreading even more inflammatory lies.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,567 posts)
18. I've always counted on the military and police forces to be the bulward that shields the country,
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 11:38 AM
Jun 2021

the Constitution and democracy. That's why I've not taken the threat of armed revolution very seriously - I expect the vast majority of uniformed forces take their oaths seriously and that many joined up because of their desire to be part of the tradition of holding America together.

But it has dawned on me that that vast reservoir of duty and patriotism will work against us in the event of a "slow motion" or "quiet" revolution such as would be effected by these incredibly odious laws. It's not the job of the military or of law enforcement to parse election laws and make judicial-level distinctions between "then" and "now."

I see them following what is ostensibly the "duly-elected" government(s), supporting and defending those mandates.

Response to ffr (Original post)

bucolic_frolic

(43,293 posts)
25. Watched Figliuzzi these many months
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 12:10 PM
Jun 2021

Totally trust the guy. I think he's worked as hard as anyone, he seemed so tired after the Jan 6 fallout weeks. He's the real deal.

KT2000

(20,588 posts)
34. He is correct
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 03:13 PM
Jun 2021

Our Qanon mayor was mentored by two men who consider themselves kingmakers. They are "mentoring" others and have been successful at getting them into political positions. They run out the sane people who have been neutralized into the minority and replace them with Q people.
This is happening all over the country in small towns - not just here.
This is the insane mentoring potential insane people.

Go to the top - find out who this is and dismantle them.
I truly believe this is way more serious than we are aware.

Cha

(297,678 posts)
46. YES TY! I told my sister
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 04:26 PM
Jun 2021

about the first tweet yesterday .. when I called her she was driving through Delaware on her way to Connecticut from Asheville, NC.

They were "rerouted" for some reason.. said it was the first time she had been this way. She thought it was Cool!

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
39. The longer we stall, the more drastic the "solution" to this problem will become.
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 06:28 PM
Jun 2021

That’s all I need to say.

Martin68

(22,890 posts)
40. While I agree that Trump and others should pay some consequences for repeating QAnon lies, there
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 06:46 PM
Jun 2021

is absolutely no evidence that they the "leadership" of QAnon. The movement has no leaders, is not really a "movement" at all, has spread into various sub-conspiracy theories and spinoffs that now have a life of their own in countries all over the world.

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