"Zip-tie guy" Eric Munchel and his mom now face more than twice as many charges...

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Adam Klasfeld
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Jun 2, 2021
"Zip-tie guy" Eric Munchel and his mom now face more than twice as many charges in connection with the U.S. Capitol siege.

The first had three counts.

This has eight, including carrying a deadly weapon (a Taser) into the Capitol.

Story soon. Background: https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/federal-appeals-court-gives-zip-tie-guy-and-his-mom-another-shot-at-pre-trial-freedom-in-capitol-riot-case/…
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Adam Klasfeld
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A story on the superseding indictment against Munchel and his mother—awaiting comment from counsel.

'Zip-Tie Guy' and His Mother Now Face More Than Twice as Many Charges in Capitol Siege Case,...
Federal prosecutors more than doubled the charges against so-called "Zip-Tie Guy" Eric Munchel and his mother Lisa Marie Eisenhart in a superseding indictment filed on Wednesday, charging them with...
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1:45 PM · Jun 2, 2021

https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/zip-tie-guy-and-his-mother-now-face-more-than-twice-as-many-charges-in-capitol-siege-case-including-for-bringing-a-taser-to-congress/

Federal prosecutors more than doubled the charges against so-called “Zip-Tie Guy” Eric Munchel and his mother Lisa Marie Eisenhart in a superseding indictment filed on Wednesday, charging them with eight counts, including carrying a deadly or dangerous weapon into the U.S. Capitol.

That weapon was a Taser, prosecutors say.

Spotted jumping around the Senate chamber in military gear, Munchel got his nickname after wire photographs captured him carrying tactical restraints inside Congress. Munchel claimed to have picked up the plastic handcuffs that Capitol police left behind, but he was not the only person to have done so. Prosecutors have noted that they theoretically could have been used for taking hostages, though they have not specifically alleged that there was such a plot.

Ultimately, however, it was a different weapon that figured into the grand jury’s superseding indictment against Munchel and his mother Eisenhart. Authorities have long alleged that Munchel carried a black and yellow “Taser Pulse” in a black holster of his camouflage pants, a detail that appeared in an FBI affidavit against him back in January.

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[Progressive Jones]

1. What kind of loser needs his Mom to drive him to an insurrection? What kind of loser Mom does so?

[GReedDiamond]

2. A loser's loser's...

...loser, and his loser's loser's loser's loser mom - aka, a muthafuckin TrumpHumper and his TrumpHumping mom.

[brush]

3. What poor judgment. WTH did both of them think they were doing?

Both in the wrong place at the wrong time for the wrong reason. Just stupid. trump brainwashed stupid.

[Skittles]

5. the utter stupidity of these folk is mind-boggling

they REALLY thought they were going to accomplish something

[Treefrog]

28. One poster here was very impressed with this tool. Said he appeared to be "professional."

[Skittles]

39. HAHAHAHA

RAMBO WANNABE

[ShazzieB]

22. What did ANY of those pea brains think they were doing?

That's a rhetorical question, of course (as I presume yours was). But here's a stab at a literal answer...

I don't think these people, or any of the others, really knew what they were doing, except following Chump's orders. HE told them to go there, and that's the only reason they needed. Their lord and master said "Jump!" and they didn't even ask "How high?" They just jumped, because HE wanted them to, and they wanted to please him.

He got them all riled up with that rally and his speech. He made them feel like they were special, telling them there was a very important job he needed them to do, that ONLY they could do. He told them to go down to the Capitol, and he made it sound like he was going with them. So they went. They may have figured (if they thought about it at all) that he was going to tell them what to do when they got there. But I don't think they thought about it much. Their "god" was giving them a job to do, and they were thrilled to do his bidding. The details didn't really concern them. He said "Go," and off they went.

And then they got there, and the rest, as they say, is history. And I know it all sounds ridiculous, because it WAS ridiculous. But there are people who know how to get others to do ridiculous things, and Chump is one of those people.

So, anyway, that's my theory, fwiw.

[brush]

38. Yes. trump asked them to go or they wouldn't have a country...

and the other thing he offered..."I'll be there with you" was key I think as it spurred them on even more in thinking he would be there to instruct them further.

But of course he's such a liar. He had no intention of going there as he's so used to having others like Cohen and Rudy and Barr to do his dirty work for him. He went back to the WH to watch it on TV and have refreshments.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. 17 yo killer of 2 in Kenosha 2020, his mom w his illegal assault rifle, across state lines

That kind of loser, too.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

29. No, that's not true.

There is no evidence that Rittenhouse's mom drove him across state lines with the AR-15.

The AR-15 was stored at his friends house in Wis., who now faces Fed. charges for straw purchase of the AR-15.

[634-5789]

30. She admitted taking him to Kenosha.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

32. No, she didn't.

There is nothing in the news about her admitting that she drove him there on the night of the shooting.

Do you have a link?
I've looked all over for one and it just ain't there.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. I definitely read something at the time about it, but now it seems he did drive himself there

I'm not sure but I think it may be that he called her and she drove him back, but I don't know for sure and, like you, have not been able to find reports that clarify the question. I also didn't realize he lived so close to Kenosha, each place very near the state line.

So, for now, I will drop the assertion about his mother driving him.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

36. According to some of the reports I read earlier,

his friend, who purchased the rifle for him, also drove him back home after the shootings.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-11-20/kyle-rittenhouse-predicted-life-in-prison-after-shooting-3-in-wisconsin-friend-says

After the shooting, Black drove Rittenhouse back to his mother’s apartment in Antioch. They met up with Rittenhouse’s mother and two sisters there, he said.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

37. Here,

read this:

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-11-20/kyle-rittenhouse-predicted-life-in-prison-after-shooting-3-in-wisconsin-friend-says

His friend, who purchased the AR-15 for Rittenhouse, told police that he drove him back to his mother's apartment in Antioch after the shootings.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. This report says she claims to not have known about his plans or activities. She worked a long shift

around that time.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-kyle-rittenhouse-mother-kenosha-20201110-ikckkevit5epzjydc52szyog34-story.html

[Justice matters.]

7. Lock both of 'em up.

For years and years and years.

Lock 'em up.

[Hekate]

11. Remember "Ma Barker"? Her sons were a criminal gang & she was right there with them criming....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_Barker

Barker gained a reputation as a ruthless crime matriarch who controlled and organized her sons' crimes. J. Edgar Hoover described her as "the most vicious, dangerous, and resourceful criminal brain of the last decade". She has been presented as a monstrous mother in films, songs, and literature. However, those who knew her insisted that she had no criminal role and also allege that Hoover created such accusations in order to excuse the FBI for her subsequent death in a shootout in 1935.

Let’s just say this is the first time I ever heard about her soft side.

Anyhoo, when I read about some of those mother-son duos at the 1/6 Insurrection, my mind turned immediately to Ma Barker and her boys.

[Progressive Jones]

15. Great point! Didn't think about her. Kind of a different situation, though. nt

[vercetti2021]

13. Incels

They need mommy to do it for them. Ten bucks he lives in her basement

[Princess Turandot]

18. She's a right doozy. She's on a vid from the day saying that she was ready to die..

...rather than have something or other happen to her because of the gas bag's 'dismissal'. (I don't recall whatever vague thing that was.) She didn't just accompany him; she was there to participate.

[ShazzieB]

23. Oh, yeah, she didn't just go there to help him.

She went because she wanted to be there. She's a true believer, just like her son. That was apparent in the video.

[Demsrule86]

33. Seriously, going to an insurrection with your MOM? Wow what a loser.

He probably lives in her basement.

[live love laugh]

40. This is the kind ...

“...a judge ordered Rittenhouse to have no contact with known white supremacists after he was seen drinking in a bar in Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, and posing for a photo with two men who made hand gestures used by white supremacists. Prosecutors also alleged men at the tavern serenaded Rittenhouse with the anthem of the Proud Boys, a neo-fascist group. The legal drinking age in Wisconsin is 21 but Rittenhouse could legally drink alcohol because he was with his mother.


Also:
His mom tried to sell “free Kyle” bikinis and merchandise to profit as RW $$ and adulation poured in

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/wisconsin-shooter-kyle-rittenhouses-mom-175851011.html

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. There were some moles in the building who left the zip ties out & handy for insurrectionists. nt

[BGBD]

9. I've never believed that.

More like they got out the crowd control bags and them hastily abandoned them when all hell broke loose.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

25. I have lots of doubts too, but I saw photo of large bag of zip ties in a locker area

I'm reasonably confident that the truth on this issue will come out in due course.

[nilram]

16. There were some rats who broke in the building & brought zip ties with them for their insurrection

[meadowlander]

24. They must have gotten the idea by monitoring all the sites where they were planning the riot

and talking about bringing lots of zip ties.

[BGBD]

8. This guy caught my attention early on

I wrote somewhere, here or Twitter (IDK), that it looked like he had come where specifically to take hostages etc. I really pegged him as one of the most dangerous members of the group.....then I got to looking and learning more about him and came to find out he was just one of the dumbest.

That started to come together when I first saw the picture of him helping his mom up the stairs inside the building and then later when he managed to get himself photographed at the hotel with his mask off and all the rest of his gear still on. He was one of the first people to be publicly ID'd, because he's really stupid.

That doesn't mean he wasn't dangerous too, but who brings their mom to the revolution?

[soldierant]

10. Good. nt

[vercetti2021]

12. Awful parenting

At least I'm taking my mom with me to Roswell. And I'm driving and paying for it all! That's how you parent and It'll rub off positively

[RockRaven]

14. Just so we're clear -- this demonstrates that the DOJ is totally on board with the assertion that

a taser is a "deadly or dangerous weapon."

Because the DOJ would never fail to apply the law uniformly... ( )

So, for instance, when there are any regulations, training, oversight, or potential prosecutions/civil rights lawsuits of cops/agents using/misusing tasers, that would always be handled consistent with the position that tasers are, categorically, a "deadly or dangerous weapon," right? RIGHT?

[PortTack]

17. It is! Wasn't the guy who tased himself in the scrotum and died of a heart attack there?

If I remember correctly?

[RockRaven]

20. You remember correctly that there was such a story. Unfortunately (fortunately?) that story

is apocryphal. The guy who died of the heart attack during the Capitol assault did not taser himself in the junk while trying to steal/remove a portrait of Tip O'Neal (or something like that), which was the tweet from some wise-ass/comedian on Twitter said, only to have it picked up and spread by all manner of social media/news.

Snopes has a debunk article. Just Google snopes, taser, and balls.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

19. There's no doubt in my mind that...

... they hoped to take some Congress members as hostages. A taser AND the restraints?!

They probably wanted to then march them to the gallows that were erected outside for public executions.

[SunSeeker]

21. Good. nt

[Vinca]

26. The family that plays together stays together . . . in prison.

[Botany]

27. But they look like such nice people

Eric's home stash of guns and what not. No doubt he was protesting all those "gun control" laws.

[Rustyeye77]

31. I always went with my mother to all insurrections.

Seriously does he have some Oedipus complex going on ?