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orangecrush

(19,616 posts)
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 07:50 PM Jun 2021

THEY ARE TAKING AWAY OUR RIGHT TO VOTE.

Last edited Fri Jun 4, 2021, 10:16 PM - Edit history (3)

They are not "TRYING".



They are DOING IT.



NPR's "On Point" did a great in depth report on what the Heritage Foundation is really doing.



This isn't hyperbole.


They are replacing our democratic system of government with fascism under our very noses, as we sit like the proverbial frogs in the pot being brought slowly to a boil.



At this rate, debate over policy will become entirely meaningless.

Here is the link to the NPR "On Point" podcast that gives an in depth report on the Heritage Foundation and how they are pushing voter restriction and ELECTION OVERTURNING (yes, that's really in the legislation!) with great effect. Click on the June 4th podcast.



https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510053/on-point



They failed with Trump.

They aren't finished yet.



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THEY ARE TAKING AWAY OUR RIGHT TO VOTE. (Original Post) orangecrush Jun 2021 OP
That was well pulled together, I listened, too. JudyM Jun 2021 #1
I'll put Brookings up against the HF any day... WarGamer Jun 2021 #2
Is there a "Brookings Action" that writes legislation for state lawmakers and lobbies them? JHB Jun 2021 #35
I wonder how massive civil unrest orangecrush Jun 2021 #8
This all started 20 years ago with gldstwmn Jun 2021 #9
True for this century orangecrush Jun 2021 #15
Reagan/Bush were gldstwmn Jun 2021 #21
Might, but.... the Powell Memo and the Movement Conservative takeover of the GOP... JHB Jun 2021 #36
Absolutely, IMO too. JudyM Jun 2021 #27
I just searched 'NPR, On Point, Heritage Fnd' appalachiablue Jun 2021 #12
Right here orangecrush Jun 2021 #16
TY! Right in your post and I missed it, dang.. appalachiablue Jun 2021 #26
Joe Manchin Don't Care FoxNewsSucks Jun 2021 #3
And Black people say: "Welcome to our world ..." StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #4
Still not nearly enough noise being made orangecrush Jun 2021 #7
Exactly, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #19
I hope orangecrush Jun 2021 #20
Some of us white folks have been seeing this KPN Jun 2021 #23
The frustrating thing is that if those people had stood up with us when Republicans started ramping StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #24
Spellbinding, horrifying report. The leaked tape has the leader(s) positively gleeful over FailureToCommunicate Jun 2021 #5
The ability to overturn any election if they lose orangecrush Jun 2021 #6
Why isn't anyone organizing against this GOP fascist movements ?😭 UCmeNdc Jun 2021 #10
There are liberal think tanks orangecrush Jun 2021 #18
There are organized resistance movements all across the country StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #25
Thanks, Starfish! orangecrush Jun 2021 #29
Exactly StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #30
Please give me a link so I can listen to this. russ1943 Jun 2021 #11
Here orangecrush Jun 2021 #14
I wonder what would happen if California did this. BadgerMom Jun 2021 #13
They're trying it now in Pennsylvania orangecrush Jun 2021 #17
I live next to Chris Dush's district, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #22
My thoughts as well. orangecrush Jun 2021 #28
PA AG Josh Shapiro was on Maddow last night saying he will stop this happening in PA. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2021 #31
And if they don't let it happen, Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #37
They f*ck around in Pennsylvania orangecrush Jun 2021 #39
Not exactly a "failure" with trump. They did..... jaxexpat Jun 2021 #32
I've known it for some time. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #33
And yet they lost. orangecrush Jun 2021 #40
Results at the polls won't mean much if the results can be set aside, just because they want to. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #43
The single most important bill to pass is voting rights. Lonestarblue Jun 2021 #34
There must be a plan B orangecrush Jun 2021 #41
And the Trump distraction is giving them cover bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #38
BINGO!!! orangecrush Jun 2021 #42
They are making it somewhat more inconvenient for us to vote. dawg Jun 2021 #44
They can overturn an election result orangecrush Jun 2021 #45

JudyM

(29,270 posts)
1. That was well pulled together, I listened, too.
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 08:00 PM
Jun 2021

It’s stunning. The part about the spoon feeding of the legislation in Georgia. We need our own version of the Heritage Foundation.
They keep getting away with kicking the ball down the field. The referees are too slow on the calls, so we need much stronger “D.”

JHB

(37,161 posts)
35. Is there a "Brookings Action" that writes legislation for state lawmakers and lobbies them?
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 05:21 PM
Jun 2021

I don't think Brookings is activist in the way that Heritage and Heritage Action are.

orangecrush

(19,616 posts)
8. I wonder how massive civil unrest
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 09:42 PM
Jun 2021


The first time they overturn an election will affect their profits?

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
9. This all started 20 years ago with
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 09:50 PM
Jun 2021

the installation of W. No one wanted to rock the boat with that, or yellow cake and look what we ended up with.

orangecrush

(19,616 posts)
15. True for this century
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 10:20 PM
Jun 2021


But those of us old enough to remember might say it started with Reagan (Bush Senior, Ronnie was just the face.)

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
21. Reagan/Bush were
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 10:49 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Sat Jun 5, 2021, 12:02 AM - Edit history (1)

duly elected though and W was not. We've been on a slippery slope ever since.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
36. Might, but.... the Powell Memo and the Movement Conservative takeover of the GOP...
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 05:24 PM
Jun 2021

...were put into motion in the 70s. Reagan is when it started to be seen on the surface.

appalachiablue

(41,170 posts)
12. I just searched 'NPR, On Point, Heritage Fnd'
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 09:55 PM
Jun 2021

online, and didn't come up anything. Do you know when the program aired and a topic/title? Thanks much.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
4. And Black people say: "Welcome to our world ..."
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 08:50 PM
Jun 2021

We've been under siege for years, with the attack escalating sharply with the 2013 Shelby decision. We've been trying to get folks to take the threat seriously, but the majority of people - including most Democrats - seemed not too concerned about it. It just wasn't a big deal to them because they thought it didn't affect them.

Now that it's affecting them, everyone's paying attention. But had they paid attention to the dead canaries in the coal mines, we'd all be in a better position today.

orangecrush

(19,616 posts)
7. Still not nearly enough noise being made
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 09:38 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Fri Jun 4, 2021, 10:23 PM - Edit history (1)



How can you talk about "infrastructure and bipartisanship" when our free society is being destroyed?

gab13by13

(21,400 posts)
19. Exactly,
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 10:42 PM
Jun 2021

Democrats need to focus on 1 main issue, getting S1 passed. It will mean eliminating or changing the filibuster.

I am still waiting for our DOJ to move in to Arizona where they are violating federal election laws, state laws also.

KPN

(15,649 posts)
23. Some of us white folks have been seeing this
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 10:52 PM
Jun 2021

all along — but definitely not anywhere near enough, and for exactly the reason you mentioned. Basically, they couldn’t extrapolate — or as you put it so clearly, they didn’t see how it affected them. One thing I have been blessed with is implicitly understanding that we are all in this together. In the end, it’s “all” or might as well be nothing. No absolutely specific messages, but by example I suppose, my parents had much to do with that blessing. They were always tolerant, and welcoming of everyone. Strangely, a few of my siblings don’t have the blessing. I attribute that to their falling into evangelism in their struggles with life. There are 9 of us so only 3 lost souls out of 9 isn’t too bad.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
24. The frustrating thing is that if those people had stood up with us when Republicans started ramping
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 11:01 PM
Jun 2021

up voter suppression measures such as restrictive Voter ID laws (instead of saying, "You need a picture ID to get on a plane or buy liquor, so what's the big deal?" etc.), the Black vote that was suppressed could have helped prevent the election of the politicians who are now in office and are hellbent on taking away their rights - LGBTQ rights, reproductive rights, and now their voting rights.

Now that it's almost too late, they are seeing that it would have been good for them to join the fight long before now.

It's great that you had the blessing of parents who taught you tolerance and open-mindedness.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,020 posts)
5. Spellbinding, horrifying report. The leaked tape has the leader(s) positively gleeful over
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 09:11 PM
Jun 2021

stripping away voting rights in every swing state as "their only, last, best hope"

orangecrush

(19,616 posts)
6. The ability to overturn any election if they lose
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jun 2021


On a "proponderance" of evidence of fraud...

meaning the same disinformation they've been spewing now has the weight of law.

"If democrats win, it had to be election fraud, and we will overturn it."

orangecrush

(19,616 posts)
18. There are liberal think tanks
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 10:29 PM
Jun 2021


Trouble is they don't have right wing nut job billionaires pouring unlimited dark money into them.
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
25. There are organized resistance movements all across the country
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 11:02 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Sat Jun 5, 2021, 01:15 PM - Edit history (1)

You can go online and find organizations in your area to get involved with and/or support.

And if you still can't find anything, organize something yourself!

orangecrush

(19,616 posts)
29. Thanks, Starfish!
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 01:10 PM
Jun 2021

II believe there is going to be a tipping point when people realize they HAVE to get involved.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
13. I wonder what would happen if California did this.
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 10:00 PM
Jun 2021

We could get rid of McCarthy and Nunes, among others (eg, Calvert).Let’s see what they think of their policy then.

gab13by13

(21,400 posts)
22. I live next to Chris Dush's district,
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 10:49 PM
Jun 2021

one of the GQP reps who visited Arizona. I posted a thread on a local right wing web site just lambasting Dush for violating his oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. I was banned from the site for about 6 months for calling MF45 a Putin puppet.

The Pa. GQP members will face stiff opposition in Pa. from our AG and governor. It won't be a stroll in the park like they did in Arizona.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
31. PA AG Josh Shapiro was on Maddow last night saying he will stop this happening in PA.
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 03:07 PM
Jun 2021

I thought he was overconfident. Rs are on a roll now, and will stop at nothing.

Excuse my ignorance, but I don't know what we can do about it. Ever since I was of age, I've voted against all Rs and all of their ballot measures and other nonsense in every election, I've donated money, I've volunteered for Dem campaigns, I've gone to protests, I've signed petitions, I've talked to friends & relatives. Nothing works against the power of the massive RW propaganda campaign that convinces people the Right is right and Dems are baby-eating lizard people. WTF?!!!

Do I have to buy guns, ammo, and learn to use them?

orangecrush

(19,616 posts)
39. They f*ck around in Pennsylvania
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 09:25 PM
Jun 2021

They will be "on a roll", alright.

Only places they hold power here are in areas with more cows than people.

They will get rolled in cow shit.

jaxexpat

(6,847 posts)
32. Not exactly a "failure" with trump. They did.....
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 05:11 PM
Jun 2021

manage to hold their gains and move the goal posts for future media contests. It's the nature of mob madness that it will hibernate when denied sustenance but not die. Indeed the "days in the desert" seem to insulate them of any beneficial evolution.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
33. I've known it for some time.
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 05:16 PM
Jun 2021

All "they" need is a populist leader as worshipped as Drumpf, or even thereabouts, but who is smarter and more capable.

And, sadly, that shouldn't be a tall order for them to fill.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
43. Results at the polls won't mean much if the results can be set aside, just because they want to.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 11:42 AM
Jun 2021

That will be more difficult at the federal level, but made less so as they stack Congress, using these same repugnant "laws." It may come down to having to convince a 6-3 court to rule against them that brought 'em to the dance.

Lonestarblue

(10,063 posts)
34. The single most important bill to pass is voting rights.
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 05:18 PM
Jun 2021

And Senate bill 1 needs to be expanded to cover all the voter nullification nonsense. Do Senators Sinema and Manchin want to be in the minority again after 2022? It would seem so.

bucolic_frolic

(43,273 posts)
38. And the Trump distraction is giving them cover
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 06:55 PM
Jun 2021

This is all orchestrated. Reinstatement and running for House Speaker is grabbing the public's attention while the GOP is taking a chainsaw to democracy.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
44. They are making it somewhat more inconvenient for us to vote.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jun 2021

Lost, somewhere in this discussion, is the fact that they are also making it somewhat more inconvenient for their elderly redneck base to vote as well.

We need to stop being so defeatist.

Let's just show up and vote these motherfuckers out of office. (Especially in the state legislatures.)

orangecrush

(19,616 posts)
45. They can overturn an election result
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 03:22 PM
Jun 2021

If they don't like the result.

Suggest respectfully that you listen.



https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510053/on-point


Check out the June 4th podcast link.

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