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joetheman

(1,450 posts)
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 05:36 AM Jun 2021

You know damn well that liberals are not in control of our Intel agencies or


all of this RW GOP Trump shit would be over by now. Many would be in jail, quite a few dead of "natural auses" and many more fired from their Federal jobs and NONE of this recount shit would be going on.
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You know damn well that liberals are not in control of our Intel agencies or (Original Post) joetheman Jun 2021 OP
dead "of natural causes" isn't on my agenda, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #1
Are you calling for the intelligence agencies to arrange for the deaths of your political opponents? mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #2
No, I'm making an observation about our political past. That is all. joetheman Jun 2021 #5
So you think this happened in the past... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #7
Your inference seems absurdly off the mark. LanternWaste Jun 2021 #12
Man it is way too early on a Sunday for a hilariously garbage take like this one. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #3
+10 nt reACTIONary Jun 2021 #8
Agreed. Our Intel has enough on its plate without levying pogroms against the crazies. RVN VET71 Jun 2021 #4
Slow down on joetheman everybody. jaxexpat Jun 2021 #6
Perhaps, then, we should ... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #9
Yep, that sounds about right. jaxexpat Jun 2021 #11
So fucking stupid JI7 Jun 2021 #10
I don't read this post the same way as the posters above. msfiddlestix Jun 2021 #13
But liberals don't "fascist" ... dawg Jun 2021 #14
I think Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #16
What I know "damn well" is that our intelligence agencies MineralMan Jun 2021 #15

gab13by13

(21,362 posts)
1. dead "of natural causes" isn't on my agenda,
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 07:12 AM
Jun 2021

just justice. The DOJ should have stepped in in Arizona, the Arizona SOS stated that federal laws were being broken.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,503 posts)
2. Are you calling for the intelligence agencies to arrange for the deaths of your political opponents?
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 07:40 AM
Jun 2021
all of this RW GOP Trump shit would be over by now. Many would be in jail, quite a few dead of "natural auses" and many more fired from their Federal jobs and NONE of this recount shit would be going on.

Put me down as a "no."

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
7. So you think this happened in the past...
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 08:48 AM
Jun 2021

... and it happened when "liberals" were in control of the agencies?

This seems to be "creative speculation" to me.

RVN VET71

(2,692 posts)
4. Agreed. Our Intel has enough on its plate without levying pogroms against the crazies.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 08:06 AM
Jun 2021

That’s the problem with democracies like ours: they cannot use against their adversaries (like the GOP) the same strategies and actions that their adversaries would use against them. It’s a Walt Kelly-Pogo “We have met the enemy and he is us” sorta thing.

Hard to be good in a shitty-evil world, but you gotta try.

jaxexpat

(6,837 posts)
6. Slow down on joetheman everybody.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 08:18 AM
Jun 2021

In think he's trying to say our intel agencies perform extra-legal functions. I think that's probably true to some unknown extent. That they do not currently perform these duties under "liberal" direction also seems a reasonable deduction.

The proposition that these intelligence agencies could/would somehow curb Trump and Trumpistas is for posterity to weigh in the light of time's passage, then for scholars of history to determine.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
9. Perhaps, then, we should ...
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 08:52 AM
Jun 2021

... wait for the judgement of history rather than engage in unsubstantiated, somewhat paranoid, speculation.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
13. I don't read this post the same way as the posters above.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 09:42 AM
Jun 2021

It feels like you might be responding to right wing talking points? :

'the liberals in the intel agencies-deep state' bs. ???

I don't know what exactly inspired you to right this, perhaps you might wish to clarify?

dawg

(10,624 posts)
14. But liberals don't "fascist" ...
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 10:05 AM
Jun 2021

so this inaction is exactly what you *would* see it liberals were running the show.

In reality, the agencies are probably being run, for the most part, by principled centrists who try to stay apolitical as much as possible. (With a few hardcore conservatives and a handful of liberals sprinkled into the mix as well.)

Elessar Zappa

(14,004 posts)
16. I think
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 10:34 AM
Jun 2021

the FBI and CIA tend to lean conservative but most definitely aren’t the MAGA type. I basically trust them to do a good job.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
15. What I know "damn well" is that our intelligence agencies
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 10:30 AM
Jun 2021

are information gathering organizations, not policy-making ones. They tell administrations the things they discover, but do not act on that information unless ordered to, which is a very rare event.

I suspect, but do not know "damn well" that you are not part of any of those organizations, and are just projecting your own opinions on them. I am no longer part of such organizations, but was at one time.

Administrations make policies. Intelligence agencies provide information to administrations.

You are incorrect. I also don't know you, since you have been here only for a short time. I do know, though, that you are wrong.

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