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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,503 posts)
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 03:43 PM Jun 2021

Snopes: No, Trump Did Not Wear His Pants Backwards at Rally

Dave Weigel Retweeted

Thousands of anti-Trump people are tweeting a false claim about the former president’s pants. Great work, excellent use of time



Fact Checks > Politics

No, Trump Did Not Wear His Pants Backwards at Rally

You asked, so we watched the 90-minute speech.

Madison Dapcevich
Published 6 June 2021

Claim
Former U.S. President Donald Trump wore his pants backwards during the June 2021 North Carolina Republican Party convention in Greenville, North Carolina.

Rating

False

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Snopes: No, Trump Did Not Wear His Pants Backwards at Rally (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 OP
Okay. So explain the weird pants then. He either had them on backwards or they were all Vinca Jun 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author PSPS Jun 2021 #2
Does he get pants without a zipper? It sure doc03 Jun 2021 #3
Pull-up suit pants to go over his depends. pandr32 Jun 2021 #7
Elastic waistband. Cracklin Charlie Jun 2021 #9
Yep! pandr32 Jun 2021 #12
I've ignored most of this, but just looking at Snopes they offered absolutely ZERO rebuttal hlthe2b Jun 2021 #6
The photo embedded in the tweet clearly shows a zipper line. Drunken Irishman Jun 2021 #15
His body language says he's taking a leak right there. lpbk2713 Jun 2021 #18
This I can believe. Drunken Irishman Jun 2021 #34
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels keithbvadu2 Jun 2021 #53
Not on my screen, it does not hlthe2b Jun 2021 #24
I literally provided photographic proof. Are you blind or just trolling? Drunken Irishman Jun 2021 #28
Alerting! I told you I could not see a zipper/fly on my screen and You accuse me of trolling?!! hlthe2b Jun 2021 #30
Yes. A photograph is clearly present in my post. Alert away. Drunken Irishman Jun 2021 #33
Not all screens are the same. Yours is too dark to see even a line in his pants suggestive of a fly hlthe2b Jun 2021 #35
I provided a photograph. You called me ridiculous. Drunken Irishman Jun 2021 #37
Your post speaks for itself. Shame on you. hlthe2b Jun 2021 #39
Try the Getty image zipplewrath Jun 2021 #48
Yes. After saving the Getty image and blowing it up as much as I could I could see a line hlthe2b Jun 2021 #50
I don't see it on my computer, but I could care less. msfiddlestix Jun 2021 #47
Yeah, but who fact checked Snopes? Either his pants were on backwards or his ass is ... marble falls Jun 2021 #4
+1. Lindsey's head was up his ass doc03 Jun 2021 #5
Hmmm empedocles Jun 2021 #14
And yet NQAS Jun 2021 #8
More like peedinhispantsgate. jeffreyi Jun 2021 #10
They claim to see a fly--I ain't looking that close! Maeve Jun 2021 #11
I will add that a fake fly is not uncommon on elastic waisted pants eom Maeve Jun 2021 #17
I don't think he uses a tailor. Seriously. Back in early 2016 or late 2015, GQ did a photoshop... Hekate Jun 2021 #23
He also does his own hair and makeup. Drunken Irishman Jun 2021 #41
I know right? msfiddlestix Jun 2021 #44
Agreed--a tailor would cost money and tell him he's wrong Maeve Jun 2021 #45
My grandfather's elatic waistbanded pants all have fake zippers obamanut2012 Jun 2021 #25
Elastic waist band. Scottie Mom Jun 2021 #13
A fake fly front is a sewing detail often included in pull-on slacks for women... Hekate Jun 2021 #38
I agree on that detail. Scottie Mom Jun 2021 #51
He actually has his head on backwards randr Jun 2021 #16
This! hermetic Jun 2021 #21
bwhaha msfiddlestix Jun 2021 #36
Not only the lack of zipper birdographer Jun 2021 #19
I see no zipper/No fly hlthe2b Jun 2021 #26
It's a really bad photo, with not much detail Hekate Jun 2021 #40
Right. It's a photo from a TV screen. Drunken Irishman Jun 2021 #43
I did not see that-- birdographer Jun 2021 #56
Here Drunken Irishman Jun 2021 #57
I don't really care, do u? ananda Jun 2021 #20
Here's what I think blogslug Jun 2021 #22
We call that a "front butt" here in Florida. Native Jun 2021 #32
And either the sleeves are too long or the hands too small. brush Jun 2021 #54
Ive been in enough MFM008 Jun 2021 #27
Who cares? TxGuitar Jun 2021 #29
And folks at Snopes know this because they have access to the dressing room? msfiddlestix Jun 2021 #31
Girl's pants? maveric Jun 2021 #42
Although a fly isn't visible in the most-tweeted photo, I doubt his pants are on backwards Ocelot II Jun 2021 #46
Whatever it is, it's pretty bizarre looking. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #49
This is ridiculous speculation. Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #52
They are pull up pants. That's the story. They work best when you are overweight and Lettuce Be Jun 2021 #55

Vinca

(50,279 posts)
1. Okay. So explain the weird pants then. He either had them on backwards or they were all
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 03:45 PM
Jun 2021

wrinkled because he peed them.

Response to Vinca (Reply #1)

hlthe2b

(102,294 posts)
6. I've ignored most of this, but just looking at Snopes they offered absolutely ZERO rebuttal
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 03:52 PM
Jun 2021

not even close-up still or video footage. Just a "False" because we (Snopes) says it is.

Totally unacceptable for a "fact-finding" organization. No more donations from me.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
18. His body language says he's taking a leak right there.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:24 PM
Jun 2021


And his pants are rumpled because they are soggy.

hlthe2b

(102,294 posts)
24. Not on my screen, it does not
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:30 PM
Jun 2021

Nor most others, apparently. Just because YOU say so when providing no photographic proof is ridiculous. I really don't care, but I do resent those who claim to know best while providing no effort whatsoever to show others what they THINK they are seeing.

The close-up posted downstream shows no fly. Is it photoshopped?

hlthe2b

(102,294 posts)
30. Alerting! I told you I could not see a zipper/fly on my screen and You accuse me of trolling?!!
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:34 PM
Jun 2021

This is your reply to me honestly telling you your photo shows nothing on my screen:

I literally provided photographic proof. Are you blind or just trolling?

hlthe2b

(102,294 posts)
35. Not all screens are the same. Yours is too dark to see even a line in his pants suggestive of a fly
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:37 PM
Jun 2021

And accusing another of "trolling" when they explain your photo is not showing up on their screen as you believe is the epitome of intentional personal attack

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
37. I provided a photograph. You called me ridiculous.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:40 PM
Jun 2021

I was not rude or uncivil in my initial reply to you. You then decided to be rude by calling me ridiculous. So, I felt you were trolling or blind. Still do. Have a good one. I'm done with this conversation.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
48. Try the Getty image
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:54 PM
Jun 2021
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/former-u-s-president-donald-trump-listens-to-ted-budd-news-photo/1233293238?adppopup=true

Blow it up. There is a fly line there. Doesn't mean there's actually a zipper, but it means they weren't "on backwards". Snopes would have done well to be more explicit about it.

hlthe2b

(102,294 posts)
50. Yes. After saving the Getty image and blowing it up as much as I could I could see a line
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:59 PM
Jun 2021

though it was not a pronounced fold as would be expected with most suit pants

The other poster's image, on the other hand, did have any resolution when enlarged on my screen. It was totally dark

My point, however, is that SNOPES did NOTHING to counter the allegation. Did not even both to enlarge and show the proof of what they were seeing, nor explain how it could appear invisible with the considerable wrinkling otherwise. So, while I really don't care, what Trump wears or his diapers or anything else, I do expect fact-finders that are in business and collecting our donations to do more than just say "False" (because I say so)..

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
47. I don't see it on my computer, but I could care less.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:52 PM
Jun 2021

He looks pathetic, regardless.

And he's too stupid to realize his show is over, and he looks hideous. it would be in his best interest to drop out of public sight altogether. But he's too stupid to see the wisdom of that.

So here we are, wet pants, backwards pants depends, etc. and apparently Snopes has nothing better to do than to make assertions they have no way of knowing factually, unless they were involved in dressing him personally.



jeeze.

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
4. Yeah, but who fact checked Snopes? Either his pants were on backwards or his ass is ...
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 03:47 PM
Jun 2021

... inquiring minds want to know.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
8. And yet
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jun 2021

The possibility that an ex-president of the US was either wearing a diaper or put his pants on backwards consumed America for 24 hours. And, Snopes notwithstanding, backwardpantsgate is not over.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
11. They claim to see a fly--I ain't looking that close!
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:04 PM
Jun 2021

But I will say it again--no self-respecting tailor would let him go out looking like that!

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
23. I don't think he uses a tailor. Seriously. Back in early 2016 or late 2015, GQ did a photoshop...
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:30 PM
Jun 2021

…makeover on his suit — they did not take away an ounce of weight or a single wrinkle, they simply “tailored” the suit so he didn’t look like a slob who’d slept in a $1,000 suit.

The real issue, as I see it, is that nobody who actually loved the bastard would let him go out looking the way he often does. His Buckingham Palace appearance is something I can’t unsee, and is a case in point.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
41. He also does his own hair and makeup.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:42 PM
Jun 2021

So, that doesn't surprise me.

I read an article a while back that talked about how he refused the standard hair and makeup before the 2016 GOP debates and that he does it all himself. It really does explain a lot.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
44. I know right?
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:44 PM
Jun 2021

I didn't know about the GQ thingy, but I'm with you on your point.

and yes, that Buckingham Palace photo shots were just embarrassing. And I'm not a fashionista of any sort.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
25. My grandfather's elatic waistbanded pants all have fake zippers
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:31 PM
Jun 2021

Not just a fly line, but actual fake rubber zippers, that looked oddly realistic.

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
13. Elastic waist band.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:09 PM
Jun 2021

That’s what’s usually worn with adult diapers. Why? Because all items can be removed for a diaper change at once. Just like with a toddler. If there is no need to unzip and stand up and pee, zipper in the front seems useless.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
38. A fake fly front is a sewing detail often included in pull-on slacks for women...
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:41 PM
Jun 2021

Like fake rear pockets and the like: case in point, some slacks from Macy’s waiting for me to take up the hems by 2 inches. No fly-front, but fake pockets in the back.

Anyway, haven’t ever gone looking for men’s pull-ons, but for the sake of male dignity I really would expect that detail.

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
51. I agree on that detail.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 05:30 PM
Jun 2021

Years ago, I did a good bit of sowing. The fake fly IMO would not be difficult to do. However, clearly there was no fly or fake fly. If Snopes is to be believed — and the pants were not on backward — there appears to be only one other option: Pants with no fly better known as “pull ups.”

birdographer

(1,331 posts)
19. Not only the lack of zipper
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:25 PM
Jun 2021

But the drape of the legs is very weird, like you would see if they were on backwards. Sorry, I'm not convinced.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
43. Right. It's a photo from a TV screen.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:43 PM
Jun 2021

The quality is crap. The photo in the actual article shows a zipper.

blogslug

(38,002 posts)
22. Here's what I think
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:26 PM
Jun 2021

I never realized it was possible to wear pants that were both too big and too small but, sure enough, he did it.

He famously chooses pants with a flat front and extremely wide legs. He's evidently gained a lot of weight in his gut and that fupa is pushing against the front so much it looks like a butt. Combine that with super bright lighting and low res video and it appears as if there's no fly on his pants. The legs are too big and the pants are too small.

brush

(53,791 posts)
54. And either the sleeves are too long or the hands too small.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 06:15 PM
Jun 2021

I'll go with the hands being too small. Horrendous looking suit however you cut it.

He's a physical wreck, wearing Depends and doesn't have enough sense to quit. I predict he's going to have a humiliating accident one day in public with his Depends failing on him as he takes a dump.

TxGuitar

(4,198 posts)
29. Who cares?
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:33 PM
Jun 2021

Say he had his pants on backwards, say they were hiding adult diapers, say he peed his pants--put g e fucker on defense, make him deny it. Like Johnson's goat fucker thing. Gloves off.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
31. And folks at Snopes know this because they have access to the dressing room?
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:36 PM
Jun 2021

How on earth can they possibly fact check this kind of claim?

I'm not saying the assertion is true, I just can't determine what exactly is going on there. Not from just looking at the photos.

It's just weird there is no fly, which I suppose can be explained by what's been suggested as pull up/elastic waist trousers.



I don't know that he wet his pants, looks can be deceiving. The wrinkly look in the crouch area I suppose might be normal, I just never noticed that in men or women's pants/trousers before now.

Oh my, I'm worried now I'll catch myself gazing at men and women's crouch area to see if their pants are wrinkled up like his in these photos. And while I'm at it, I'm going to have to take look at mine before I leave the house again.

Oh geeze, wish I never saw that post.

Ocelot II

(115,735 posts)
46. Although a fly isn't visible in the most-tweeted photo, I doubt his pants are on backwards
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:51 PM
Jun 2021

simply because it's pretty difficult for anybody to put their pants on backwards, then zip and fasten them and then add a belt, especially without help. And TFG is infamous for not letting people dress him because he doesn't like being touched and doesn't want anyone to know what his personal "enhancements" are. It is quite possible, though, that he is wearing adult diapers because most people don't bulge out so oddly right above the crotch even if they are overweight. Also, backwards pants wouldn't wrinkle up at the thighs so much because there is more fabric at the back to accommodate one's booty (and his is substantial). I think his bizarre crotchal appearance is the result of a combination of adult diapers and poor (or no) tailoring, which would also explain why his pant legs are so huge, like harem pants. You'd think someone with so much money and vanity would at least get his pants fitted properly.

Ms. Toad

(34,076 posts)
52. This is ridiculous speculation.
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 05:49 PM
Jun 2021

I see nothing that looks wet or like pee (one of the other suggestions).
His zipper is plainly visibe (at least to anyone who has ever sewn clothing)
The wrinkles look like someone who is wearing linen, or some fabric that has not been treated to be wrinkle-free, who sat for a while (pressing the wrinkles in) then stood to speak.

The guy is a jerk, but it is embarassing to see this kind of speculation on DU.

(I know you're dispelling speculation - but this is just so silly.)

Lettuce Be

(2,336 posts)
55. They are pull up pants. That's the story. They work best when you are overweight and
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 06:22 PM
Jun 2021

wear Depends, which he obviously does -- maybe some other brand, but you cannot hide the huge bulge in his pants. Not meant to be senior shaming but seriously, this guy is their savior?

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