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Breaking NYT -Trump's DOJ was investigating Adam Schiff (Original Post) malaise Jun 2021 OP
Ugh mahina Jun 2021 #1
Spying on the Chairman of the Intelligence Committee seems like a crime. Kid Berwyn Jun 2021 #2
The Chair of a Committee for an Equal Branch of government malaise Jun 2021 #7
Yes they do ALL of THEM benfranklin1776 Jun 2021 #21
The House needs to subpoena Barr immediately malaise Jun 2021 #24
Yes, and not only Barr, because we've seen he lies under oath benfranklin1776 Jun 2021 #37
They are also saying this was happening well into Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #31
Be careful of the flying monkeys, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #39
Flying monkeys are a sure sign you're on your way to the Emerald City. Hugin Jun 2021 #90
Yes Garland is not distinguishing himself in ridding the stench of corruption left by Trump and Barr benfranklin1776 Jun 2021 #48
It's also possible Garland is completely aware and is giving Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #56
Just hoping you are right on that account Mr. Bill MOMFUDSKI Jun 2021 #58
He's speaking tomorrow so we shall see. benfranklin1776 Jun 2021 #63
Dumpy was spying on Schiff and Swalwell in 2017. Kid Berwyn Jun 2021 #77
He was the ranking Democrat at the time, not the chair. tblue37 Jun 2021 #79
Thanks, yes. Kid Berwyn Jun 2021 #82
the former insurrectionist in chief weaponized the department of justice spanone Jun 2021 #3
Schiff will be on with Rachel Maddow at 9:00. dchill Jun 2021 #4
She just said she scrapped her whole show again. BigmanPigman Jun 2021 #13
Great- all the more reason to make Schiff chair of the HSC on January 6. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #5
Barr or the other asshole uponit7771 Jun 2021 #6
Turn on Rachel RFN! malaise Jun 2021 #9
I'm not surprised to hear this. I should be surprised, but I'm not. nt Progressive Jones Jun 2021 #8
Same. There is no immoral, illegal, moonscape Jun 2021 #76
Cue the 'Dems did it too' posters. Kingofalldems Jun 2021 #10
This is a first time ever malaise Jun 2021 #11
Special Counsel needed for the last four years. Kingofalldems Jun 2021 #12
Haul Barr before a house committee right fucking now malaise Jun 2021 #15
Haul Barr before a house committee right fucking now FelineOverlord Jun 2021 #33
Both of them malaise Jun 2021 #36
You are missing the point, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #46
My guess is ordered by Trump okayed by Barr. Kingofalldems Jun 2021 #52
Breaking NYT -Trump's DOJ was investigating Adam Schiff FelineOverlord Jun 2021 #14
He'll be on Rachel shortly malaise Jun 2021 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jun 2021 #19
Anxious to see what Merrick Garland does with this one. Under The Radar Jun 2021 #16
This is beyond madness - how dare DOJ spy on Congress - a co-equal branch of government malaise Jun 2021 #22
sadly demtenjeep Jun 2021 #25
We Democrats always get steamrolled because we play by the rules. Under The Radar Jun 2021 #30
Something is WRONG with Merrick Garland ! Duppers Jun 2021 #28
Biden made a mistake in choosing him. Duppers Jun 2021 #29
We don't know that yet. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #47
Well... Duppers Jun 2021 #55
Agree 100%.nt helpisontheway Jun 2021 #59
Thank you! Duppers Jun 2021 #60
John Dean chimes in... Duppers Jun 2021 #80
Listening to Rachel tonight? Duppers Jun 2021 #92
Lock him up! Time to stop playing games with Fat Hitler. (nt) Elwood P Dowd Jun 2021 #17
I'm of the opinion that just let Trump go for his crimes, Dan Jun 2021 #40
jusus demtenjeep Jun 2021 #20
Schiff coming up shortly malaise Jun 2021 #23
He has moved up in the world. He is now FAT HITLER. (NT) Elwood P Dowd Jun 2021 #54
I bet he knew, Corgigal Jun 2021 #26
Schiff on Rachel now. Duppers Jun 2021 #27
So the guy trying to stifle leaks sought dirt to use on opponents bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #32
Trump is evil on steroids n/t malaise Jun 2021 #35
I'm thinking LOT'S of bluestarone Jun 2021 #34
Trump term two, Schiff and other political opponents would have already been in the Gulag. sarcasmo Jun 2021 #38
That is the truth malaise Jun 2021 #44
That is the truth malaise Jun 2021 #45
It figures... kentuck Jun 2021 #41
This is criminal. Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #42
Sadly I'm not sure that it is. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #49
You can't do this without warrants. Sad thing is, most on the right could care less. Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #88
Very Nixonian of them. NT. andym Jun 2021 #43
Post removed Post removed Jun 2021 #50
He may not have known about it. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #51
Don't get in the way of a good Garland bash StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #67
Schiff wants the Justice department's IG to investigate. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #53
Excellent suggestion! Duppers Jun 2021 #81
There may be others. moondust Jun 2021 #57
There are. Who knows how many. triron Jun 2021 #61
Eric Swalwell just stated gab13by13 Jun 2021 #62
The people who conducted this illegal spying on key government figures are still in the DOJ. Lonestarblue Jun 2021 #64
Great question malaise Jun 2021 #66
It's not as easy to root people out as some folks think - especially if they're not political StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #69
There should be a special prosecutor. ASAP. dalton99a Jun 2021 #65
Abuse of power malaise Jun 2021 #68
The asshole was spying on Republicans as well - not just Democrats. dalton99a Jun 2021 #71
Mob Government malaise Jun 2021 #73
Start cranking out those subpeonas. oasis Jun 2021 #75
Breaking NYT -Trump's DOJ was investigating Adam SchiffWe FelineOverlord Jun 2021 #70
These are times when I am glad I am just a nobody and have a little privacy. spooky3 Jun 2021 #72
Indeed malaise Jun 2021 #74
Remember way back when Trump accused Obama of wiretapping his phones at Trump Tower? LaMouffette Jun 2021 #78
Projection they name is Trump malaise Jun 2021 #83
Lots of Republicans behave that way. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #87
Adam Schiff was on with Rachel Maddow: Rhiannon12866 Jun 2021 #84
If heads don't roll at DOJ, by Garland, I'm done with this shit. Why bother? dem4decades Jun 2021 #85
In the end, will anyone be held accountable? Probably not. For some reason they Vinca Jun 2021 #86
How would counter-intelligence operations regarding members of Congress ordinarily be done? Klaralven Jun 2021 #89
How is it done for Republicans? Hugin Jun 2021 #91
It's clear that some people at DOJ should be fired and arrested. rockfordfile Jun 2021 #93

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
2. Spying on the Chairman of the Intelligence Committee seems like a crime.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 08:50 PM
Jun 2021

It’s certainly not the kind of thing innocent administrations do.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
7. The Chair of a Committee for an Equal Branch of government
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 08:52 PM
Jun 2021

Of course it's a crime - bet he spied on more than a few ReTHUGs as well.
This fucker needs prison

benfranklin1776

(6,448 posts)
21. Yes they do ALL of THEM
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:12 PM
Jun 2021

From the would be dictator on down to his lowest minion who obediently carried out his democracy destroying orders.

benfranklin1776

(6,448 posts)
37. Yes, and not only Barr, because we've seen he lies under oath
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:25 PM
Jun 2021

But everyone who was involved in this fascistic travesty, and every other misuse of that Department. Once they testify, and appropriate evidence gathered, an independent counsel needs to be authorized to empanel a grand jury for prosecutions in this matter and every other instance in which Trump and his lackey-lapdog Barr misused the Department. Obviously the Justice Department can’t investigate itself, and it is thoroughly corrupted.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
31. They are also saying this was happening well into
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:21 PM
Jun 2021

the Biden administration. As recently as a few weeks ago. The thing is, Biden can be believed if he says he knew nothing about it, because he has always said he wont tell the DoJ what to do and what not to do. He wants them to be independant.

It doesn't look good for Garland, though.

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
39. Be careful of the flying monkeys,
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:29 PM
Jun 2021

they came after me for simply saying our Justice Department should be doing more.

Hugin

(33,162 posts)
90. Flying monkeys are a sure sign you're on your way to the Emerald City.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:15 AM
Jun 2021

They have a vested interest in the status quo.

benfranklin1776

(6,448 posts)
48. Yes Garland is not distinguishing himself in ridding the stench of corruption left by Trump and Barr
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:40 PM
Jun 2021

To say the least. Time for a serious course correction before his tenure, that Department, and the country is irrevocably harmed. As the Boston Globe series, Rachel Maddow and the experts who are warning our democracy is seriously imperiled have all emphasized, if these practices aren’t forcefully repudiated both publicly as President Biden did, and by criminal prosecutions that send the message these things are absolutely intolerable in our democracy, they will return to haunt all of us with a vengeance.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
56. It's also possible Garland is completely aware and is giving
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:08 PM
Jun 2021

some people enough rope to hang themselves before he cleans house. He's going to have to react to this soon, though.

MOMFUDSKI

(5,556 posts)
58. Just hoping you are right on that account Mr. Bill
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:19 PM
Jun 2021

or Garland has to GO. This is blatant bullshit all around. WOW

benfranklin1776

(6,448 posts)
63. He's speaking tomorrow so we shall see.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:27 PM
Jun 2021

But as head of that office he has to demonstrate, through concrete publicly visible actions, that he is going to tackle this problem head on and that the crimes and wanton lawlessness of the prior criminal gang, masquerading as an administration, will be punished. He would do well to follow RFK’s example of how an AG reminded people exactly of what the office stands for and what it will do to ensure that the nations laws are enforced on the people’s behalf.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
77. Dumpy was spying on Schiff and Swalwell in 2017.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:07 PM
Jun 2021

Barr and the gangsters were using NSA to go after Democrats before the election. That is NAZI.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
82. Thanks, yes.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:43 PM
Jun 2021

The traitors near-certainly used all they learned in 2017 and 2018 about Schiff and Swalwell against them in 2019 and 2020. I doubt Barr would stop spying on the Democrats investigating the Russia Thing until he had to. It was a most effective weapon for Barr’s criminalization of Democracy and the institution of fascism.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
15. Haul Barr before a house committee right fucking now
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:08 PM
Jun 2021

This was all politics - these fascists belong in prison

FelineOverlord

(3,580 posts)
33. Haul Barr before a house committee right fucking now
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:23 PM
Jun 2021

Wasn’t Jeff Sessions the AG at the time? Haul him before a House Committee, too.

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
46. You are missing the point,
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:36 PM
Jun 2021

there are still Sessions/Barr holdovers in the Justice department who are still working. The Justice department has been fighting to get NY Times reporters data as late as last week. That doesn't mean that Garland is even involved, it could be Barr holdovers.

One thing I hope that we can all agree on is that people need to be subpoenaed and we need to get to the bottom of this.

Going after phone records of members of Congress has never been done before, only under Sessions/Barr. Who Okayed this?

malaise

(269,054 posts)
18. He'll be on Rachel shortly
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:11 PM
Jun 2021

These are co-equal branches of government. EFUCKINGNOUGH - even a child's electronic stuff was part of this shit

Response to FelineOverlord (Reply #14)

malaise

(269,054 posts)
22. This is beyond madness - how dare DOJ spy on Congress - a co-equal branch of government
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:12 PM
Jun 2021

Start the hearings right fucking now - lock up these fuckers

Under The Radar

(3,404 posts)
30. We Democrats always get steamrolled because we play by the rules.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:21 PM
Jun 2021

Trump committed a crime everyday and hasn’t faced justice for anything. Just this week sworn testimony by the White House Legal Council revealed that Trump obstructed justice and there has been nothing proposed as punishment.
Are we all just going to wait and see on what Cy Vance comes up with?

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
55. Well...
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:04 PM
Jun 2021

Why did the hacking of Adam Schiff's email by the DOJ continue until last month? (MSNBC tonight)

~~~~~
Why is Merrick Garland defending Donald Trump?

"It is the sort of discretionary legal judgment that attorneys general often have to make..."

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/merrick-garland-donald-trump-rape-allegation.amp

~~~~
Garland's Trump defamation lawsuit decision might be legally defensible. It's also wrong.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/garland-s-trump-defamation-lawsuit-decision-might-be-legally-defensible-n1270188

It was argued on MSNBC tonight that it is not in the legal purview of the DOJ to do this.


Duppers

(28,125 posts)
80. John Dean chimes in...
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:24 PM
Jun 2021

Dean tweeted:

We are going to learn what Attorney General Merrick Garland is made of by the way he handles this situation. He must do more than say it is awful. This is prosecutorial abuse at it worst and Garland must call it out for what it is — intolerable behavior!







Dan

(3,568 posts)
40. I'm of the opinion that just let Trump go for his crimes,
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:30 PM
Jun 2021

He was the president after alls.

But throw the BOOK at all who supported him and/or enabled him - give them the maximum penalties of all fronts.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
26. I bet he knew,
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:16 PM
Jun 2021

thankfully it didn’t work.

Indict ASAP, America would like to move on from this pretend Tony Soprano.

bucolic_frolic

(43,180 posts)
32. So the guy trying to stifle leaks sought dirt to use on opponents
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:23 PM
Jun 2021

That's playing both sides of the fence. Nasty, nasty, illegal stuff. Just way beyond Machiavellian if that's possible. Evil.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
38. Trump term two, Schiff and other political opponents would have already been in the Gulag.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:27 PM
Jun 2021

Reporters and media personalities would have already been arrested.
The Trump years were as bad as we imagined.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
41. It figures...
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:30 PM
Jun 2021

It's OK for them to investigate anyone that disagrees with them but it is not OK to investigate them. Then, it's a witch hunt

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
49. Sadly I'm not sure that it is.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:42 PM
Jun 2021

Schiff said that norms were violated. I personally think it has to be illegal if Trump can be proven to have requested it and only Democrats were hacked. The thing is Rachel said that there are people working in Justice right now who were involved, they need to be subpoenaed.

Response to malaise (Original post)

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
53. Schiff wants the Justice department's IG to investigate.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:47 PM
Jun 2021

That would be done in private, why not a public Congressional investigation with subpoenas live on TV just like Benghazi?

moondust

(19,993 posts)
57. There may be others.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:12 PM
Jun 2021

Sounds like Barr/DOJ apparently used gag orders the way TFG has always used non-disclosure agreements to keep people from talking. Apple's gag order expired and they spilled the beans. Wouldn't be surprised if there are more gag orders out there hiding more crimes.

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
62. Eric Swalwell just stated
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:27 PM
Jun 2021

he too was spied on. This is the tip of the iceberg, just wait until we find out the Bidens were spied on.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
64. The people who conducted this illegal spying on key government figures are still in the DOJ.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:34 PM
Jun 2021

Why? I doubt this is a big surprise to anyone in the DOJ. Why are the people who were willing to subvert the law and every governmental norm still employed?

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
71. The asshole was spying on Republicans as well - not just Democrats.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:40 PM
Jun 2021

Remember how he used the National Enquirer to keep people in line


spooky3

(34,458 posts)
72. These are times when I am glad I am just a nobody and have a little privacy.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:41 PM
Jun 2021

Thank you, Cong. Schiff, for persevering.

LaMouffette

(2,036 posts)
78. Remember way back when Trump accused Obama of wiretapping his phones at Trump Tower?
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:14 PM
Jun 2021

Per usual, whatever Trump accuses someone else of is behavior he is guilty of himself. He accused Obama of spying and lo and behold, Trump is the one who was spying. Projection, thy name is Trump.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
86. In the end, will anyone be held accountable? Probably not. For some reason they
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:29 AM
Jun 2021

let Trump get away with anything and everything. AG Garland needs to attempt to rectify things. If he lets it slide he's no better than Barr.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
89. How would counter-intelligence operations regarding members of Congress ordinarily be done?
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 08:58 AM
Jun 2021

Not saying that these cases are legit, but there must be some branch of US counter intelligence responsible for investigating members of Congress.

If not FBI counterintelligence, then who?

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