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(81,516 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)Think we'll ever see that happen?
triron
(22,007 posts)he needs to either resign or be fired. Put Sally Yates in there or Hillary Clinton. Don't even confirm them.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)Swallwell Won't back down
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)Swallwell Won't back down
CanonRay
(14,104 posts)oasis
(49,389 posts)KS Toronado
(17,259 posts)If Ken Burns did a documentary on Qrump, it would be factual & honest with no whitewashing.
RockRaven
(14,974 posts)The DOJ will always default to: protect DOJ personnel and justify/excuse DOJ positions/actions. That is what they have always done. That is what they will always do. That includes Special Prosecutors. If there is the faintest whisper of an argument to justify the behavior the Special Prosecutors will find it and latch onto it.
Changing the political appointees at the top changes nothing in this regard. They are still DOJ institutionalists, that's how they got those appointments in the first place.
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)They are all infected at this point. The department is infected.
mountain grammy
(26,624 posts)FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)triron
(22,007 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)BGBD
(3,282 posts)A bunch of people at a Christmas party....
But they'll do this.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)CloudWatcher
(1,850 posts)The iPhones are pretty securely locked, their contents are pretty well encrypted.
But stuff stored in the "iCloud" is stored unencrypted and is awaiting anyone with a search warrant.
I'm not at all convinced Apple had the technology to unlock that phone. But data stored in the cloud is encrypted only during transportation to & from the iCloud servers. Once on the servers, anyone with access can read it.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)that Apple couldn't open that phone when my shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.
CloudWatcher
(1,850 posts)They fought the demand to unlock it because they didnt have the tools. They could have developed an iOS intended to be insecure, but that would have made a back door available for innumerable unlock requests. And installing such a thing on a locked phone might not have been possible.
But what do I know, I was only an OS software engr working for Apple for 20 years, and only a few of those on iOS. I certainly remember what a PITA it was installing my device drivers on iOS systems, and then only on ones that had special flashed ROMs that allowed access. Customer devices were useless to me, you couldnt turn them into development systems and I couldnt get into them. They were very serious about locking them down.
Of course its easy to trash Apple, they certainly have issues Id like to see changed. But I think refusing to add back doors to iOS was laudable.
That's the company's public stance on everything and I'm not questioning your own technical expertise on any of this. I just doubt that a tool to open those devices already exists somewhere. Chiefly because they sell products in China and I don't believe that China would allow devices that they, the government, can't open when they want to. Along with that thought is that Azimuth was able to break into the phone in not too much time, a couple of weeks at most from the timeline that's available.
Isn't part of Apples job to test the vulnerabilities of their software? There isn't a security team at Apple who red teamed this system and found ways in?
TraceNC
(254 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Anyone who doesn't understand the difference just doesn't understand the very basic technology and events at play here.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)My guess is no. So under what law was that legally possible. Or is that the point?
Both the constitution and law are outdated by today's technology so when the Constitution says papers it means things stored on paper. Things stored electronically are not protected. I think that construction is too strict. Papers means documents and documents can reside on either paper or electronically. Both should be treated the same in the eyes of the law but they are not.
CloudWatcher
(1,850 posts)From the CNN story:
I'm no lawyer, but Apple has a lot of them on staff. I very much doubt if they complied with anything more than what was required by law. And we've got some awful laws on the books.
Hell, I'm still pissed at Obama for voting for FISA after campaigning saying he would vote against it.
Autumn
(45,107 posts)going on by his DOJ. Wow this shit is way beyond broken.
triron
(22,007 posts)48656c6c6f20
(7,638 posts)For when you just got to spy on your enemies.
kentuck
(111,103 posts)As they were sitting on the Committees?