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Why would the DOJ dig for information on the top Dem's family members? (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 OP
Blackmail, election advantage ... and maybe finding a leak ... Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #1
To compromise their opposition, duforsure Jun 2021 #2
If they're using blackmail to influence votes, we need to go full-out legal investigation. Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #5
I'm sure that Republicans are scouring law books... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #23
I am not saying this hasn't occurred but Cosmocat Jun 2021 #20
Blackmail is his game, that is why he has so many republicans running scared Escurumbele Jun 2021 #3
We need to retaliate with the law. Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #4
Umm OldBaldy1701E Jun 2021 #24
And Barr's henchman who oversaw this, is still at the DOJ ! OnDoutside Jun 2021 #6
Is this why Schiff is saying it's going to take a decade to clean out the DOJ? Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #7
I think so JustAnotherGen Jun 2021 #8
Benvenuto is one. Is Francisco still there ? OnDoutside Jun 2021 #10
That's how I took it too. If you look all the dirty stuff carried out over OnDoutside Jun 2021 #9
Good analogy JustAnotherGen Jun 2021 #13
More I suspect coming trump's been doing this a lot more than we know, duforsure Jun 2021 #11
+1 Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #29
Maybe it started out as "looking for information" FakeNoose Jun 2021 #12
That explains why 67% of all eagle scouts remain closeted. jaxexpat Jun 2021 #14
And here I thought the deep state was supposed to be on our side Walleye Jun 2021 #15
I'm guessing they'll figure out aocommunalpunch Jun 2021 #16
At any other time, this would be as big a scandal as Watergate. That is another thing Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #17
Trump is a mobster who does not give a flying fuck malaise Jun 2021 #18
At least Nixon had a small amount of conscience... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #19
By law Schiff couldn't have US business on an Apple account. Kablooie Jun 2021 #21
+1 Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #28
Only a matter of time before we hear they did it to Biden too shelshaw Jun 2021 #22
I agree, there is precedence to say that. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #25
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2021 #30
Take the gloves off Blue Owl Jun 2021 #26
Yeah! It's time for Mimosas! Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #27
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Blackmail, election advantage ... and maybe finding a leak ...
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 05:11 AM
Jun 2021

If they just happened to stumble on the latter, I mean.

Nothing will happen to TFG. Everything he did as POTUS is 'moot' according to every frigging judge so far.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. To compromise their opposition,
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 05:46 AM
Jun 2021

Like they are likely doing to Joe Manchin now. Its a long used putin and trump tactic. Expect more people getting exposed having this done to them by these two using foreign intel, and wiretapping, and hacking personal information for use against them . Graham, Cruz and others very likely had this done to them.

Baitball Blogger

(46,735 posts)
5. If they're using blackmail to influence votes, we need to go full-out legal investigation.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 05:56 AM
Jun 2021

There is no way our Democracy will hold if politicians aren't allowed to follow their own conscience. It's already an uphill climb to find a Republican who has one.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
23. I'm sure that Republicans are scouring law books...
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:43 AM
Jun 2021

... already, looking for technicalities that supposedly makes it all perfectly okay. Then someone like McTurtle will announce it, with a straight face like it's normal.

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
20. I am not saying this hasn't occurred but
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:29 AM
Jun 2021

the overwhelming amount of things these people say and do is because they have guzzled their own kool aid.

Escurumbele

(3,395 posts)
3. Blackmail is his game, that is why he has so many republicans running scared
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 05:48 AM
Jun 2021

That is the way the mafia works, also the way Putin works, and the way trump has worked all his life. There have to be so many skeletons that trump owns and I hope they come out soon.

Baitball Blogger

(46,735 posts)
4. We need to retaliate with the law.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 05:54 AM
Jun 2021

Anyone who is buying votes through blackmail should be incarcerated. THIS is what is destabilizing our Democracy.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,130 posts)
24. Umm
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:55 AM
Jun 2021

Forgive my presumption, but anyone who is buying votes period should be incarcerated. You are correct, it IS destabilizing our Democracy, but the real reason for this is a marked lack of concern for all vote buying, not just the ones that have been 'bought' through illegal means.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
9. That's how I took it too. If you look all the dirty stuff carried out over
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 06:17 AM
Jun 2021

the last 4 years, there had to have been multiple DOJ staff involvement, who just went along with whatever shit that Barr and Sessions got up to. It's a bit like the public service workers in Nazi Germany just following orders.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
11. More I suspect coming trump's been doing this a lot more than we know,
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 06:29 AM
Jun 2021

And with foreign intel actors helping him. Especially from putin, and others.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
12. Maybe it started out as "looking for information"
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 06:33 AM
Jun 2021

... but it quickly morphed into "creating information," and that's exactly what Rudy was trying to do in the Ukraine and elsewhere. Rudy wasn't working for the Dept. of Justice, but he did work on behalf of Chump and his evil empire.

I sincerely hope the DoJ was not enabling The Former Guy, but ... you know ... so many shocking truths haven't come out yet.

Scrivener7

(50,955 posts)
17. At any other time, this would be as big a scandal as Watergate. That is another thing
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:22 AM
Jun 2021

that Donny Bodybags did to undermine our Democracy: his constant scandals and crimes made us unable to respond to transgressions of government in a way that is proportionate to their magnitude.

This is huge. This is historically diabolical. But we have had so many scandals wash over us, we will treat this like just another one of them.

As such, the consequences for those who did this will be as inconsequential as the consequences have been for all the other scandals. Which means this is now how we do business.

And that is the greatest danger we face as a country.

malaise

(269,050 posts)
18. Trump is a mobster who does not give a flying fuck
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:22 AM
Jun 2021

about the constitution - and of course he should pay. This makes Nixon look like a saint.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
19. At least Nixon had a small amount of conscience...
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:28 AM
Jun 2021

... and shame, when he'd blubber to Kissinger about his mistakes.

Trump is a shameless sociopath.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
21. By law Schiff couldn't have US business on an Apple account.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:35 AM
Jun 2021

So they were digging for personal info.

Yep. Smells like blackmail.

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
25. I agree, there is precedence to say that.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 08:13 AM
Jun 2021

Trump uses projection, he claimed over and over that president Obama was spying on him, that the Justice department was spying on him, when in fact he was the one doing the spying. Even when it was pointed out that a judge had to OK surveillance that wasn't good enough. Well Democrats had better look into who OKayed this shit, and don't stop with Barr.

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