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MOMFUDSKI

(5,556 posts)
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 06:05 PM Jun 2021

Learned today that the Pfizer vac is the only one that

keeps replicating antibodies so is expected to offer more lasting protection. Went for a stress/echo test and the tech has a nerd buddy that called him to relay this info to him. He had the Pfizer as did I so we were happy together over this news. Just wanted to pass this info on.

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Learned today that the Pfizer vac is the only one that (Original Post) MOMFUDSKI Jun 2021 OP
The tech has a nerd buddy? Chautauquas Jun 2021 #1
Why the snarliness? MOMFUDSKI Jun 2021 #6
Pfizer vaccine is quickly degraded once it enters the body (so is Moderna). LisaL Jun 2021 #23
I've read the same thing. Pfizer seems to be the best. BlueLucy Jun 2021 #17
That must be why when the nurse at the Dr. office asked if I'd gotten my vaccination. I said yes, napi21 Jun 2021 #2
Moderna or Pfizer may've gotten the same response ... J&J has lower effectiveness than other two Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #3
All three vaccines presumably would have gotten the same response from a nurse. LisaL Jun 2021 #9
Fair enough :) nt Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #12
Good if true, but not to worry for the other vaccines. We can always Hortensis Jun 2021 #4
Sounds like one of the silly rumors one can find on facebook. LisaL Jun 2021 #5
No kidding. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #21
Hmm. I'll need to grab my phone 48656c6c6f20 Jun 2021 #7
they act as if a magnetic forehead would be a bad thing Skittles Jun 2021 #19
Uh, both mRNA vaccines tell our cells to replicate spike scipan Jun 2021 #8
If said cells keep chugging out spike protein, Disaffected Jun 2021 #10
mRNA vaccine itself is quickly degraded. That happens with both Pfizer and Moderna. LisaL Jun 2021 #11
I didn't say they did, Disaffected Jun 2021 #13
I got Moderna I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2021 #14
Pfizer and Moderna are built on the same kind of mRNA technology caraher Jun 2021 #15
Pfizer also has the electrolytes plants crave n/t Silent3 Jun 2021 #16
Bwahaha.. I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2021 #18
I heard the Moderna.... Xolodno Jun 2021 #20
I heard from a guy who heard from a guy greenjar_01 Jun 2021 #22
Oh boy obamanut2012 Jun 2021 #24
Link?? Proof?? Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #25
Info To Be Taken With A Billion Grains of Salt ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #26
Link to proof??? nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #27

Chautauquas

(4,442 posts)
1. The tech has a nerd buddy?
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 06:09 PM
Jun 2021

and based on that we're to believe the Pfizer is the only one that provides lasting protection? I think I'll wait for more reliable sources before I believe this.

MOMFUDSKI

(5,556 posts)
6. Why the snarliness?
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:48 PM
Jun 2021

Just passing on some info from someone in the medical field. Do with it what you may. Or did you get the J and feel robbed? Jeesh

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
23. Pfizer vaccine is quickly degraded once it enters the body (so is Moderna).
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 06:27 AM
Jun 2021

It doesn't enter the nucleus and is not incorporated into the genome. Thus it's not going to be "replicating antibodies" long term.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
2. That must be why when the nurse at the Dr. office asked if I'd gotten my vaccination. I said yes,
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 06:11 PM
Jun 2021

and she asked which one. I answered Pfizer & she said "Oh good."

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Moderna or Pfizer may've gotten the same response ... J&J has lower effectiveness than other two
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 06:25 PM
Jun 2021

So I wouldn't read TOO much into that bit of anecdotal evidence

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
9. All three vaccines presumably would have gotten the same response from a nurse.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:18 PM
Jun 2021

I can't envision a nurse saying "too bad" to any of the vaccines, LOL.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Good if true, but not to worry for the other vaccines. We can always
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 06:31 PM
Jun 2021

get boosters should they be necessary, and in the meantime Covid has spread among billions around the planet who still have no access to any vaccine.

By chance Pfizer was the one I got. But after the initial feeling of relief and freedom I'm still masking, disinfecting hands, and the rest because 1) Pfizer's probably not as effective against what they're now calling the "delta" variant from India (which is here in GA), 2 and 3) I'm both high risk and immune suppressed to begin with, lessening efficacy to an unknown degree, and 4) in my area of north GA the vaccination rate may still be as low as 20% or below.

Oh, well. Truck on.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
5. Sounds like one of the silly rumors one can find on facebook.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:29 PM
Jun 2021

The only one that keeps replicating antibodies? What does that even mean?
Someone's nerd buddy is hardly a reputable source. Pardon me while I go and stick a key to my foreahead.

scipan

(2,351 posts)
8. Uh, both mRNA vaccines tell our cells to replicate spike
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:13 PM
Jun 2021

Protein. Saying the vaccine "replicates antibodies" is really wrong and I would be very skeptical about what that nerd said.

Disaffected

(4,556 posts)
10. If said cells keep chugging out spike protein,
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:20 PM
Jun 2021

would that not prompt the immune system to keep producing antibodies against it?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
11. mRNA vaccine itself is quickly degraded. That happens with both Pfizer and Moderna.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:26 PM
Jun 2021

In fact Pfizer is less stable than Moderna, at least before being injected into the body (thus requiring colder storage temperatures).
So how would the cells keep "chugging out" spike protein, given that vaccines are quickly degraded, and once degraded, spike protein is no longer being made.

Disaffected

(4,556 posts)
13. I didn't say they did,
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 10:11 PM
Jun 2021

I said if they did. And if they vaccine degrades rapidly, then yeah, the OP claim is likely questionable.

As well I suspect if the claim were true, we would have heard of it by now from more reliable sources...

caraher

(6,278 posts)
15. Pfizer and Moderna are built on the same kind of mRNA technology
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 12:21 AM
Jun 2021

I wouldn't put much stock in this anecdote - the two should have broadly similar effects.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
20. I heard the Moderna....
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 01:44 AM
Jun 2021

...also includes THC extract and corrects erectile dysfunction.


Oh shit, just realized if push the latter, republicans would get the shot. On second thought, nah.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
22. I heard from a guy who heard from a guy
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 01:52 AM
Jun 2021

This is the state of STEM education today.

We long ago stopped believing that we could educate a broad public in advanced philosophy or mathematics, but we still somehow believe that we can spread "scientific literacy." Maybe it's time we review the assumptions there. Of course, it's very "elitist" to say that publics can't learn science as a rule. But maybe that doesn't make it untrue. We've had at least 60 years of a concerted campaign of public science. We get anti-vaxxers, flat earthers, this stuff. Maybe it's not possible.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
26. Info To Be Taken With A Billion Grains of Salt
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 12:43 PM
Jun 2021

I have my doubts that there's any major difference between Pfizer & Moderna.

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