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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKim Kardashian West has has failed her first-year law exam for a second time.
Kim Kardashian, who is studying for a law degree, aims to open her own law firm.
She was seen saying: "I failed... I just have to not stress about it."
She said she was "bummed" about the result, which was "a little bit worse" than her first attempt earlier this year.
She added: "I just have to do better in the future."
The reality star was taking the baby bar exam, a one-day test that is taken after a year's study.
She pledged to take the exam for a third time later this month.
"I just feel I've worked so hard in life to achieve everything that I wanted to and I lived up to my expectations and achieved 10 times more than I even thought was humanly possible ...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57439616
So she can't get past the first year of law school ?
Skittles
(153,174 posts)she sounds like Donald Fucking Trump
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)hlthe2b
(102,331 posts)Reading the law outside of attending law school is clearly difficult. Perhaps some of what she might have learned by completing four years of college might have given her a "leg up." Just a thought.
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)hlthe2b
(102,331 posts)Does Rob really factor into anything? (never watched the show)
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,498 posts)private tutorials with Van Jones didn't do the trick.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)Demovictory9
(32,468 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)the road to "stardom" for so many of the idle rich's daughters in this day and age.
How else are they going to differentiate themselves from all the other young "influencers" out on the market today?
It's a dog-eat-dog world out there when you want to make millions for doing absolutely nothing. Education? That's an awful lot like work, and not the most direct and surefire road to riches. Sex sells. Isn't that what they say?
kskiska
(27,045 posts)and taking selfies instead of studying.
EndlessWire
(6,555 posts)is a real b*tch to pass. She should keep going and not give up.
Demovictory9
(32,468 posts)xmas74
(29,674 posts)Added with our climate due to covid and she's now going through a divorce-Im not surprised.
I hope she takes it again, even if she fails. It keeps this program in the spotlight and might draw interest from those who couldn't afford to go to law school.
Maxheader
(4,373 posts)Can she trial a speeding ticket? What am I missing?....
Iggo
(47,563 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,134 posts)...she did not complete undergrad studies & has no degree.
However, I found a cite that one can apply for the bar without having gone to college.
She's doing what's referred to as the "nontraditional route".
I can see why. I admit I didn't pursue details because I don't care enough.
But, I didn't know someone could become a lawyer without going to college for it.
nuxvomica
(12,437 posts)And the comparison ends precisely there.
ProfessorGAC
(65,134 posts)...that was 175 years ago.
I don't know whether we even had a university in our state in those times. (Maybe there was some. I don't know the ages of our universities here. I do know the undergrad schools my wife & I attended were founded post WW2!)
Just surprised it can still happen.
Dorian Gray
(13,498 posts)I think you should flesh it out a little more. lol
Ms. Toad
(34,085 posts)hlthe2b
(102,331 posts)California, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, New York, Maine, and Wyoming
But to do so without developing the critical thinking skills that one (or at least MANY) learn/hone in college would seem quite difficult.
no_hypocrisy
(46,151 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)oioioi
(1,127 posts)sarisataka
(18,733 posts)madaboutharry
(40,216 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:55 PM - Edit history (1)
1. It is always admirable when a person embarks on an undertaking to improve themselves and pursue a goal.
2. It takes a whole new level of entitlement for a person who dropped out of community college to think they can become a lawyer. I would think that most people doing this at least have an undergraduate degree.
Lawyers may be deeply disliked, but everyone of them spent 7 years doing the hard work of going to a college or university, studying for the LSAT, spending 3 years in law school during which time they were not infrequently terrorized by law professors, and then studying for and passing the bar exam. It is a difficult road.
Another point, the actual bar exam in California is notorious. It is beyond me how she thinks she would ever pass it.
bamagal62
(3,268 posts)Smart. Graduated from Pitt. Went to Santa Clara for law and failed it twice. Hes decided to go another route. California bar is not easy.
hardluck
(640 posts)Weve had a few first year associates fail twice and them were let go. Its rough to watch those poor kids get crushed like that. Had a friend who passed on her sixth try. She was a great student but just didnt do well on the multiple choice day of the exam. Did fine on the written part though. That was grit and determination right there.
I poured myself a very large bourbon before I checked my results.
In It to Win It
(8,275 posts)tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Bristlecone
(10,130 posts)Software, etc and very little time actually reading and understanding the law. She seems like the type that has always pressed the easy button.
I may be wrong.
haele
(12,667 posts)She's learning Law via an apprenticeship, which is not easier than going to an accredited law school. One of my bosses and both his sons went to law school of the government dime, he had to take the Bar twice and one of his sons had to take it three times.
California Bar is pretty difficult, despite the occasional idiots like Orley Tatz.
And cheating is not unheard-of to "pass".
Haele
BGBD
(3,282 posts)For the bar even if you went to a non accredited school, right? I didn't realize that extended to people who aren't even going to law school like Kim apparently is.
She has a billion dollars....just hire some actual law professors to come give you private lessons or something.
Iggo
(47,563 posts)Sorry. Couldnt help myself.
RegularJam
(914 posts)But it sounds like a positive narrative for people to hear.
Ms. Toad
(34,085 posts)She is trying to pass the bar exam without being in law school.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,481 posts)Xolodno
(6,398 posts)...isn't a pass for exams. Unless you have something on the Professor or if they are shady and willing to take $.
But the Bar Exam isn't administrated by a Professor, you have no idea who is going to grade it.
And since she has no college degree, was already at a massive disadvantage.
Her best bet was get an AA and become a para-legal first.
Nope, wants the easy way to a law degree....just like becoming famous. But hey, the latter did make her rich.
betsuni
(25,591 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 12, 2021, 01:50 AM - Edit history (1)
She's not stupid. She's admired Hillary Clinton for many years and voted for her. Compare that with Susan Sarandon (who's been an activist for decades) who was convinced Hillary was a corrupt warmonger monster more dangerous than Trump. THAT'S stupid. Now that Kim's older and a mother, she probably wants to be more like her father.
It's amazing the family became so successful based on nothing but a hell of a lot of plastic surgery and a fake reality TV show, taking making yourself into a brand to the limit. It has to be studied in business schools, it must be!
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)she won't be a practicing attorney (yet). There are already enough obnoxious famewhore attorneys clogging the airwaves without adding a Kardashian to the group.
Just IMO...
obamanut2012
(26,094 posts)She is in an apprentice program and took the baby bar. She isn't a 1L, and law schools don't tend to let first years retake finals anyway, they kick you out.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)That is mentioned in the OP in BOLD print.