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Demovictory9

(32,468 posts)
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 04:22 AM Jun 2021

Florida Publix shooter posted: 'I want to kill people,' sheriff angry that family said nothing

'He was on Facebook saying he wanted to kill women and children': Cop says man who shot dead grandmother and her one-year-old grandson could have been stopped if police were told of his postings, but 'You think a damn soul told us? NO'

A furious sheriff condemned the friends and family of a gunman who murdered a grandmother and her one year-old grandson for not reporting his bloodcurdling Facebook threats to kill.

Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw could not contain the anger in his voice as he hit out at friends and relatives of Timothy J. Wall, 55, a day after he killed a 69 year-old grandma and her toddler grandson at a Publix in Royal Palm Beach, Florida.

Wall is not believed to have known either of his victims, with cops currently treating the double-murder suicide as a horrific random attack.

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Bradshaw said: 'Somebody knew about it, that bad things were going to happen with this guy; and number 2 is, obviously, there's a mental unstableness involving this.'

He added: 'There was a chance this could be stopped - you know why? The reason is - he's on Facebook. He has said "I want to kill people and children." He's got friends. Obviously they saw that.'

'His ex wife say's he's been acting strange. He thinks he's being followed. he's paranoid,' Bradshaw continued. 'You think a damn soul told us about that? No.'



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9676809/Gunman-shot-dead-grandmother-grandson-1-Publix-supermarket-Florida-identified.html

another source: https://www.al.com/news/2021/06/florida-publix-shooter-posted-i-want-to-kill-people-sheriff-says.html

The gunman who stalked and then fatally shot a grandmother and her 1-year-old grandson inside a Florida supermarket had been threatening to kill people, including children, on his Facebook page but no one reported him, a Florida sheriff said Friday.

Timothy J. Wall, 55, had been making the threats for some time before he walked into a Publix in Royal Palm Beach on Thursday, stalked his victims in the produce aisle before first shooting the child and then the woman before killing himself, Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw and his detectives said. Detectives have found no connection between Wall and the woman.

“He has said, ‘I want to kill people and children.’ He’s got friends. Obviously, they saw that. His ex-wife said that he has been acting strange. He thinks he is being followed. He’s paranoid. Do you think a damn soul told us about that? No,” Bradshaw said at a press conference. “If it sounds like I’m angry, I am.”
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Florida Publix shooter posted: 'I want to kill people,' sheriff angry that family said nothing (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jun 2021 OP
I think if they had told the sheriff, nothing would have been done Withywindle Jun 2021 #1
You're 100% correct. 634-5789 Jun 2021 #2
Precisely Sherman A1 Jun 2021 #5
+1000 MaryMagdaline Jun 2021 #6
+1 n/t area51 Jun 2021 #16
Police never do shit to stop a white man with a gun. LonePirate Jun 2021 #3
I listen to true crime podcasts, and dawg day Jun 2021 #4
Based on previous experience Old Crank Jun 2021 #7
Just another "good guy with a gun"... until he wasn't... ExciteBike66 Jun 2021 #8
I live near that Publix. Ligyron Jun 2021 #9
I think you are 100% correct! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jun 2021 #11
Yes. They won't do anything until you hurt someone bedazzled Jun 2021 #17
I wonder how often someone says shit like that... Silent3 Jun 2021 #10
More proof that the "good guy with a gun" concept is total BS. Crowman2009 Jun 2021 #12
I live in SWFL keithsw Jun 2021 #13
Elected sheriffs are always running for office. It is a fact of life. Chainfire Jun 2021 #15
What would the cops have done? Come up and shoot him? That's generally what they do when WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #14

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
1. I think if they had told the sheriff, nothing would have been done
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 04:34 AM
Jun 2021

Because he was a white man, and white men's rights to own guns and spout off hate are always upheld as "freedom of speech".

LONG history of women being stalked and terrorized by guys like this, and the legal system generally brushes them off and say "well there's nothing we can do" and "what did you do to provoke him?" and never take the calls for help seriously. EVERY SINGLE TIME in the last two decades someone like this has gone off and killed people, there were ALWAYS warning signs. Always.

edit: I want to add - this sheriff is so angry because this man killed random people he didn't know. But if he'd killed his own mother and his own child, this would be just written off as a "domestic" and it probably wouldn't make national news. Domestic violence is so normalized, we have this ingrained belief that killing your own family is somehow not as bad as killing strangers. It is though. It really is.

634-5789

(4,175 posts)
2. You're 100% correct.
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 04:42 AM
Jun 2021

People who live in "I got me some guns and I'm gonna carry it around because...freedom...something" States are never taken seriously until the murders begin. Fortunately there's massive amounts of thoughts and prayers to couteract any real danger.

LonePirate

(13,429 posts)
3. Police never do shit to stop a white man with a gun.
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 05:26 AM
Jun 2021

They only would have taken action if Wall had been a POC.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
4. I listen to true crime podcasts, and
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 05:28 AM
Jun 2021

Don't judge me. But in many of them, there's someone the killer told before or after, often several people come and those people almost never call the police or tell anyone else..
I suppose before maybe they just don't believe them. But afterwards after someone is killed, the idea that they would keep this secret for decades sometimes is pretty appalling. But common, at least in the murders that make it onto a podcast.

Old Crank

(3,615 posts)
7. Based on previous experience
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 06:14 AM
Jun 2021

And the distain in Florida for red flag laws I would say the Sherriff was wrong. Not much would have been done, if anything.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
9. I live near that Publix.
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 06:30 AM
Jun 2021

friends and relatives said they DID contact the sheriffs department and nothing happened. I think Bradshaw might be trying to cover his ass.

Silent3

(15,256 posts)
10. I wonder how often someone says shit like that...
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 06:45 AM
Jun 2021

...and nothing ever happens?

I get the idea that stuff like this should be reported, and I don't dispute that, but if there are 1000 false alarms for every real threat, reporting it might be a long shot.

1000-to-1 is just a random example number I made up. It could be 5 to 1, it could be 42,000-to-1, I haven't got a clue. I don't even know if solid statistics are out there with which to make an educated guess.

Crowman2009

(2,499 posts)
12. More proof that the "good guy with a gun" concept is total BS.
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 07:18 AM
Jun 2021

Sort of like how militias were suppose to protect our country, until they proved how useless they were on the battlefield. Hence why the US Army was re-established in the late 1790's.

keithsw

(436 posts)
13. I live in SWFL
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 07:52 AM
Jun 2021

And it seems every Sheriff I see from Florida on television is a drama queen. Always trying to out badass each other. When in reality if 10 people would have called him he would have said " Well, he committed no crimes yet, so there is nothing we can do "

This guy is no different. He is just trying to cover his own ass.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,387 posts)
14. What would the cops have done? Come up and shoot him? That's generally what they do when
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 08:02 AM
Jun 2021

they're called to "help" people in mental health crises. No thanks.

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