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Galraedia

(5,027 posts)
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 04:55 PM Jun 2021

GOP Senator Says Democracy, Majority Rule Aren't What Our Country Stands For

One of the edifying side effects of the Trump era has been that, by making democracy the explicit subject of political debate, it has revealed the stark fact many influential conservatives do not believe in it. Mike Lee blurted out last fall that he opposes “rank democracy.” His fellow Republican senator, Rand Paul, tells the New York Times today, “The idea of democracy and majority rule really is what goes against our history and what the country stands for. The Jim Crow laws came out of democracy. That’s what you get when a majority ignores the rights of others.”

Paul is a bit of a crank, but here he is gesturing at a recognizable set of ideas that have long been articulated by conservative intellectuals. Importantly, these ideas are not identified solely with the most extreme or Trumpy conservatives. Indeed, they have frequently been articulated by conservatives who express deep personal animosity toward Donald Trump and his cultists.

The belief system Paul is endorsing contains a few related claims. First, the Founders explicitly and properly rejected majoritarianism. (Their favorite shorthand is “We’re a republic, not a democracy.”) Second, to the extent the current system has shortcomings, they reveal the ignorance of the majority and hence underscore the necessity of limiting democracy. Third, slavery and Jim Crow are the best historical examples of democracy run amok.

National Review has consistently advocated this worldview since its founding years, when it used these ideas to oppose civil-rights laws, and has persisted in using these ideas to argue for restrictions on the franchise. “Was ‘democracy’ good when it empowered slave owners and Jim Crow racists?,” asked NR’s David Harsanyi. Majority rule “sounds like a wonderful thing … if you haven’t met the average American voter,” argued NR’s Kevin Williamson, rebutting the horrifying ideal of majority rule with the knock-down argument: “If we’d had a fair and open national plebiscite about slavery on December 6, 1865, slavery would have won in a landslide.”

Read more: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/republican-senator-rand-paul-democracy-republic-majority-rule-jim-crow.html

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GOP Senator Says Democracy, Majority Rule Aren't What Our Country Stands For (Original Post) Galraedia Jun 2021 OP
Hogwash. Slavery wouldn't have won if the enslaved were allowed to vote. brush Jun 2021 #1
Precisely. PSPS Jun 2021 #4
What is up with Mitch? True Blue American Jun 2021 #2
He prefaced that with the assumption the GOP would take back the Senate majority. PSPS Jun 2021 #3
But it was like True Blue American Jun 2021 #7
Regarding Rand Paul, madamesilverspurs Jun 2021 #5
Ahhhhh yes....the ideal for America..... Mysterian Jun 2021 #6

brush

(53,871 posts)
1. Hogwash. Slavery wouldn't have won if the enslaved were allowed to vote.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:02 PM
Jun 2021

Paul and the other anti-democracy libetarian-leaning republicans are all full of shit. They just want white men to be able to vote/rule.

PSPS

(13,615 posts)
4. Precisely.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:15 PM
Jun 2021

Buckley et al. always started with the assumption that only those already in power/control should have any say about ... anything.

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
2. What is up with Mitch?
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:08 PM
Jun 2021

He was threatening not to allow Biden a Supreme vote in 2024? Doesn’t the old fool understand he is no longer in charge? Is he showing signs of losing it, too?

madamesilverspurs

(15,809 posts)
5. Regarding Rand Paul,
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:19 PM
Jun 2021

it could be, as was first suggested years ago, that the decomposing roadkill on top of his head is leaching dangerous toxins into his brain.


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