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speak easy

(9,259 posts)
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 01:04 PM Jun 2021

UK - The Covid Delta variant is taking off. Highest No. of new cases since February.

(vaccines reported to be effective IF you have had both jabs)

UK reports 9,055 new cases – highest daily total since February

The UK has reported its highest daily total of new coronavirus infections since February, adding to signs that a new, more infectious variant of the disease first found in India is spreading.

The government reported a further 9,055 cases today, the highest since 25 February, and up by almost a fifth compared to a day earlier.

This week, the UK delayed plans to lift most remaining Covid-19 restrictions by a month, saying the extra time would be used to speed up Britain’s vaccination programme - already one of the world’s furthest advanced.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jun/16/coronavirus-live-news-new-york-hits-70-vaccination-target-japan-considering-10000-fans-at-olympics

The Delta variant accounts for more than 90% of new Covid cases in UK
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/11/delta-variant-is-linked-to-90-of-covid-cases-in-uk

Delta, now a 'variant of concern,' accounts for 10 percent of new U.S. cases, CDC says
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/newly-deemed-variant-concern-delta-accounts-10-percent-u-s-n1270915

Two doses of vaccine highly effective against Delta variant, U.K. officials say
Experts say it's absolutely vital to get the second dose of a two-dose series vaccine.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/two-doses-vaccine-highly-effective-against-delta-variant-u-k-n1270776

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UK - The Covid Delta variant is taking off. Highest No. of new cases since February. (Original Post) speak easy Jun 2021 OP
Need more information about vaccine effectiveness. triron Jun 2021 #1
Have added more info to the OP speak easy Jun 2021 #2
Got Some For You ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #4
My bet is at least Pfizer is quite effective. triron Jun 2021 #5
The Pfizer & Moderna Mechanisms... ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #6
Looking like Pfizer 30% effective after 1 dose, 60-80% effective after 2 doses. nt wiggs Jun 2021 #8
strange wording in the last article.... getagrip_already Jun 2021 #3
Yes. In assessing a vaccine they look for speak easy Jun 2021 #7
Have to read the study in question Sgent Jun 2021 #11
It should be expected that we will have a perceptible surge among the unvaccinated. There may wiggs Jun 2021 #9
Daily infections have tripled over the last month FBaggins Jun 2021 #10

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
4. Got Some For You
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jun 2021

I looked this up Monday.
In the US, almost 96% of vaccinations were done with Pfizer or Moderna.
In the UK, a little under 20% were from those manufacturers. The vast majority was Oxford/AZ, with the lowest being J&J/Jansen.
The early data seem to show that Pfizer & Moderna are quite effective against delta.
What all this tells me is we cannot compare the US to the UK at this point.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
6. The Pfizer & Moderna Mechanisms...
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 03:09 PM
Jun 2021

...are nearly identical.
If one is effective, it's highly likely the other is, as well.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
3. strange wording in the last article....
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 02:38 PM
Jun 2021

"The new analysis found that two doses of the Pfizer vaccine were 96 percent effective against hospitalization from the Delta variant, and two doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine were 92 percent effective."

Ok, I'm reading this as for breakthrough infections (fully vaxed people who still get covid), those are the percentage of people who don't require hospitalization. Is that what they mean?

speak easy

(9,259 posts)
7. Yes. In assessing a vaccine they look for
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 03:34 PM
Jun 2021

efficacy in preventing serious illness (i.e. hospitalization)
efficacy in preventing moderate illness; and
efficacy in preventing symptoms

beyond that there is the question of what percentage are still contagious,
which requires testing for whether ppl are still shedding virus.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
11. Have to read the study in question
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 09:45 PM
Jun 2021

but usually serious illness indicates either organ failure, ventilator, or ICU admission. Moderate would be a hospital admission, and symptomatic would be pre-hospital symptoms.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
9. It should be expected that we will have a perceptible surge among the unvaccinated. There may
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jun 2021

very well be a Delta surge among the vaccinated as well but, except for breakthroughs with symptoms, we won't know about infections without symptoms...no testing for those in general.

There is much we still don't know about the Delta variant, including long covid chances. It also appears to affect the young more than the original virus, leading to more hospitalizations by younger people.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
10. Daily infections have tripled over the last month
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 09:37 PM
Jun 2021

Deaths, however, remain unchanged in the high single-digit daily range.

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