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No Jeff Zeleny from CNN, President Biden's interaction with Katlain Collins was NOT sexist, and (Original Post) JohnSJ Jun 2021 OP
CNN is circling the wagons mcar Jun 2021 #1
+++ JohnSJ Jun 2021 #6
Agree n/t malaise Jun 2021 #2
Here's the exchange, for those who missed it True Dough Jun 2021 #3
Doesn't seem sexist to me wryter2000 Jun 2021 #12
Sometimes it seems to me that some of the questions are GoodRaisin Jun 2021 #4
Good observation JohnSJ Jun 2021 #7
Dissmive maybe , sexist no Etherealoc1 Jun 2021 #5
Biden admitted as much and apologized JohnSJ Jun 2021 #8
What was sexist about it? Polly Hennessey Jun 2021 #9
SHE WHITT Jun 2021 #10
You are dead on! She totally misrepresented what arthritisR_US Jun 2021 #16
+1,000,000 EXACTLY ... and WELL SAID. Enuff with the faux no push back! n/t MFGsunny Jun 2021 #21
I suppose President Biden could have just bellowed "Fake news!" and stomped off gratuitous Jun 2021 #22
But a 39 time rapist now that is A okay with these fucks. onecaliberal Jun 2021 #11
Last I heard it was around 28 rapes and sexual assaults Sugarcoated Jun 2021 #13
There are more than 28. /end onecaliberal Jun 2021 #17
I've only seen 28 charges and credible accusations Sugarcoated Jun 2021 #28
When reporters phrase their questions to highlight themselves instead of the story DFW Jun 2021 #14
Thank you! As a woman I thought her question was arthritisR_US Jun 2021 #15
twitter is all a-buzz about this Kaitlin Collins nothingburger IcyPeas Jun 2021 #18
to paraphrase Marshall McLuhan agingdem Jun 2021 #19
This is the same nitwit who asked Biden if Kamala Harris will be his running mate in 2024. GoCubsGo Jun 2021 #20
you can take the girl out of Fux agingdem Jun 2021 #25
The media often benefits by making themselves the story. RegularJam Jun 2021 #23
I can see it as sexist. Its not a good moment for Joe. SYFROYH Jun 2021 #24
You do realize that President Biden is pretty even handed in that, regardless of gender. When JohnSJ Jun 2021 #26
This is how I see it. SYFROYH Jun 2021 #30
ok JohnSJ Jun 2021 #31
Ok I'll respond to the examples. SYFROYH Jun 2021 #32
How is it sexist? LoveMyCali Jun 2021 #29
I heard that too. Pissed me off. Came out of nowhere. spanone Jun 2021 #27

mcar

(42,334 posts)
1. CNN is circling the wagons
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 02:41 PM
Jun 2021

Her question was ridiculous, his response was not sexist, and, regardless, he apologized.

Zeleny is implying that a woman reporter must be treated differently. That, to me, is sexist.

GoodRaisin

(8,924 posts)
4. Sometimes it seems to me that some of the questions are
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 02:45 PM
Jun 2021

more about the questioner than about substance.

Polly Hennessey

(6,799 posts)
9. What was sexist about it?
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 02:53 PM
Jun 2021

Really getting tired 😴 of some of the accusations thrown around at the least little provocation.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
10. SHE
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 03:05 PM
Jun 2021

misrepresented what he said and attempted to put words in his mouth. He had every right to say, now wait a minute, that's not what I said.

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)
16. You are dead on! She totally misrepresented what
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 03:46 PM
Jun 2021

he said and was trying to shove words down his throat. She said she was just being a journalist and doing her job well, the first is debatable and the second points to how badly she sucks at her “job”.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. I suppose President Biden could have just bellowed "Fake news!" and stomped off
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 04:40 PM
Jun 2021

That was certainly a good enough response for the press corps for four years prior to Biden.

Sugarcoated

(7,724 posts)
28. I've only seen 28 charges and credible accusations
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 10:17 PM
Jun 2021

If there's proof of more I'd love to have it...I make it my mission to spread the rapist's shame and remind everyone I can.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
14. When reporters phrase their questions to highlight themselves instead of the story
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 03:35 PM
Jun 2021

It ceases to be journalism. Green Jeff should know that. My dad was a past president of the Washington Gridiron Club, and a respected member of the Washington print press for 50 years. I know the difference.

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)
15. Thank you! As a woman I thought her question was
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 03:42 PM
Jun 2021

obtuse and Jeff’s take on the interaction just as idiotic as she was.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
19. to paraphrase Marshall McLuhan
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 04:06 PM
Jun 2021

"the media is the message"....Collins picked through Putin's conference, found something irrelevant, and attempted to zing Joe, but he said (my interpretation and paraphrased):.. "this is a joke, right?...you don't know what the hell you're talking about" and then he apologizes for his tone but not the content.......so now she gets media attention, hundreds of twitter/Facebook likes and followers, CNN gets to back-slap, and Kaitlin Collins makes a guest appearance on Morning Joe...

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
20. This is the same nitwit who asked Biden if Kamala Harris will be his running mate in 2024.
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 04:28 PM
Jun 2021

She worked for Schmucker Carlson's "The Daily Caller" before going to CNN. It's no surprise she attempted a "gotcha" question--and why she failed so miserably at it.

 

RegularJam

(914 posts)
23. The media often benefits by making themselves the story.
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 04:45 PM
Jun 2021

That is no different with Collins, who I am a big fan of. She does it less than most in direct questioning. Really appreciate her.

The online and talking head chatter is just another sign that Biden is doing extremely well, overall.

SYFROYH

(34,172 posts)
24. I can see it as sexist. Its not a good moment for Joe.
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 04:47 PM
Jun 2021

As a white male, if you're dismissive and a little contemptuous toward a woman or a minority, it can come off badly.

JohnSJ

(92,227 posts)
26. You do realize that President Biden is pretty even handed in that, regardless of gender. When
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 05:02 PM
Jun 2021

someone asks a question accusing him something he didn't say, he actually wasn't dismissive, but told them in no uncertain terms NO THAT WASN'T WHAT HE SAID. That is NOT sexist.

When a MAN came up to him and accused him of being against the 2nd amendment, Biden told him he was full of s**t. That was NOT being "sexist" too?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486812-biden-tells-man-confronting-him-about-2nd-amendment-youre-full-of-shit

When Doucey from fox did the same thing, that was NOT being sexist?

https://www.rawstory.com/biden-g7/

and neither was his response to Ms. Collins






SYFROYH

(34,172 posts)
30. This is how I see it.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 08:38 AM
Jun 2021

In professional settings, women are often dismissed, patronized, or treated contemptuously for speaking up -- especially in inconvenient ways. More so than men.

If you treat a woman this way, you are in effect, saying you don't care about that long history of discrimination and bias.

This is true even under the cloud of I sometimes treat mean this way, too.

Is this the most horrendous example of sexism? Of course not. Joe gets the bigger issues, but I do think he can sometimes be oblivious to some things he does.



SYFROYH

(34,172 posts)
32. Ok I'll respond to the examples.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 08:57 AM
Jun 2021


Re: The pro-gun union guy: I think his treatment of the pro-2nd Amendment guy was strange and not sexist. I get your point Joe can get off his leash from time to time. I don't dispute that. It was wrong behavior for different reasons.

Re: Doocy: He was much more respectful of Doocy than the female reporter in the OP. He didn't finger wave him, he didn't move toward him with a raised voice and talk over her, and he explained his position with a respectful tone.





LoveMyCali

(2,015 posts)
29. How is it sexist?
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 10:23 PM
Jun 2021

He said if you don't understand maybe you're in the wrong business not maybe women shouldn't be in this business. If it hurt her feelings he's probably right about her being in the wrong business.

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