Ok, about this Phillips recall on cpap/bipap breathing/sleep machines?

[7wo7rees]

Last edited Thu Jun 17, 2021, 09:33 AM - Edit history (1)

How many of us at DU are affected? How many friends and family?
I went to Phillips website for information.
In my humble opinion it is a class action lawsuit just waiting for the right attorney!!

The 7wo7rees family is looking for a good attorney, right now!

Ok, just an update.... from what I read at their website, if you have one of these machines stop using immediately, but 1st contact your doctor.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!

Sorry to DU for yelling. I don't know what to do.

Thanks to everyone that has responded. I know we are not alone. I am so pissed off I can't see straight!
G d it!

Ms.7wo7rees

[gab13by13]

1. List of affected machines.

https://www.usa.philips.com/healthcare/e/sleep/communications/src-update

[7wo7rees]

3. Ok. It is about foam inside device.

It has nothing to do with "SoClean" device. It is about foam inside device to reduce noise. That foam deterioration is appearing to be possibly deadly.......

[gab13by13]

12. Are you certain?

I also have a ResMed but it also uses a sound suppressing foam. Just saying.

[gab13by13]

25. How do you know?

Just because there isn't a recall? Cigarettes are still legal.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

4. I have heard it affects millions in the U.S.

My doc and the equipment provider both said to stop using it immediately. I know of at least three other people this affects. It's a shitshow.

[gab13by13]

5. Not every device is on the recall list.

I have a very popular ResMed10 and I don't see it on the list.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

6. Yes, I realize this. ResMed is not made by Philips. Philips has said this recall affects 3 million

to 4 million machines, about half of which are in the U.S.

[gab13by13]

11. Thanks for the info, I thought they were.

These ResMed machines also use a sound suppressing foam so it makes me also wonder about them?

[Submariner]

26. ResMed's stock climbs over 8% following Philips' sleep apnea, ventilator device recall

https://www.medtechdive.com/news/resmed-stock-climbs-following-philips-ventilator-sleep-apnea-device-recall/601746/

RESMED machines doesn't use same foam.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

8. A Respiratory Therapist I know was told by a Phillips rep it will take years to replace the foam

insulation in the machines in use. There is apparently no plan to replace machines or provide loaners.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. As a consumer, "Stop using the machine and now wait and see for a few weeks what we come up with"

is unacceptable to me.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

14. As it should be. Phillips will do nothing substantive until forced to. Either government action or

class action lawsuits. Either of which will result in pennies on the dollar for the consumers and will take years to come to fruition.

[gab13by13]

9. These machines aren't cheap

A regular (not bi-level) machine goes for 800 bucks, and a bi-level is around 1,400 bucks.

[diehardblue]

10. I have one of those machines!

[A HERETIC I AM]

28. Me too.

Went to the website, entered the serial number and Bingo!

I can’t sleep properly without it and I have to use it in order to comply with my CDL medical card.


Ah well. My lungs are fucked anyway.

[WhiteTara]

15. It's quite impossible, isn't it.

I'm going for a sleep study to get a new machine. I don't know what to do.

[gab13by13]

18. Get a ResMed

It isn't under recall.

[WhiteTara]

23. Yes. I discussed this with the sleep lab

and that's what they've been using for the past couple of years. Dadgum, this is one time when procrastination did not pay off. I could have gotten a new machine 2 years ago. Though chances are I would have ended up with the same kind of machine.

[GulfCoast66]

16. Thankfully mine is not on the list. I have a ResMed with humidifier I use at home.

And a cool little transcend for when I’m flying out on vacation.

10 years I’ve used it. I’m convinced I would be dead now without it. Or at least brain dead.

Have not spent a single night without it since I got it.

I call it my ‘Magic Sleep Machine’. Put it on and I’m asleep in minutes.

[Ms. Toad]

19. My daughter treats hers the same way.

Her sleep apnea is borderline, but she has a disease that leaves her fatigued all of the time - so the boost she gets from getting a full night's sleep is miraculous.

[gab13by13]

21. I am also borderline,

but I had a successful ablation to fix my A-fib. There is a correlation, or possible correlation between sleep apnea and A-fib so I use the ResMed machine. ps/ I am one of the few people who hate it.

[Ms. Toad]

27. Not having used one, I would expect I would hate it.

But she even takes a portable one in the car on long drives so she can use it during naps.

[GulfCoast66]

30. I think that first night I used it was when I fell in love with it.

After 20 years or so with very poor, ineffective sleep the way I felt that next day was miraculous.

[Ms. Toad]

17. My daughter's model is recalled.

We're waiting for the update to register for a replacement or repair.

[gab13by13]

20. First of all,

your personal insurance such as Medicare, isn't going to cover the cost of another machine if the time limits haven't expired. What Phillips should do is send everyone a check, a refund for the price of the machine so they can go out and buy a ResMed or other machine not being recalled. The Phillips equipment, head gear, nasal cushions, hoses all interchange with ResMed. I use Phillips equipment because it is better than ResMed, for me.

Anyone think Phillips is going to do that?

I just hope that the ResMed sound reduction foam is safe.

[A HERETIC I AM]

29. It's a $3.7 Billion market.

Anyone think Phillips is going to do that?

You’re god damned right they are. They don’t want this market to go up in smoke for them.


https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/sleep-apnea-devices-market

[mvd]

24. Yep, I have a Dreamstation - the first generation

My apnea is so severe that I refuse to just quit use. I will call my doctor about it though. There has to be a good way for Phillips to provide restitution to us. I am also furious! So many people use it and it took this long to do anything?