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Voter suppression coming to Michigan (Original Post) bif Jun 2021 OP
We need to get everyone ID superpatriotman Jun 2021 #1
I don't understand why groups don't help voters get an id jimfields33 Jun 2021 #2
It isn't free. CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #10
It isn't impossible, either superpatriotman Jun 2021 #15
Oh I agree. CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #19
Some don't have birth certificates? Kingofalldems Jun 2021 #13
Luckily, Whitmer will veto these in a hurry. bearsfootball516 Jun 2021 #3
I would certainly assume so. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #5
They don't but.... DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2021 #7
Then Marc Elias & DNC may be adding it to the list as of law suits. Also, we'll see what PortTack Jun 2021 #14
The slow-motion coup continues spanone Jun 2021 #4
I think they're making it harder to vote absentee and by mail as well. bif Jun 2021 #6
Whitmer already said she's vetoing them Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #8
See post #7. CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #11
The Big Gretch has her veto pen ready. roamer65 Jun 2021 #9
This is all just going through the motions DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2021 #16
They also can't touch no excuse absentee voting. roamer65 Jun 2021 #17
Veto is fine superpatriotman Jun 2021 #12
To answer your question DFW Jun 2021 #18

jimfields33

(15,850 posts)
2. I don't understand why groups don't help voters get an id
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 08:49 AM
Jun 2021

A state I’d is free. Would that work? DMV gives out non driving IDs. Something needs to happen to assist voters with IDs. Yes some don’t have birth certificates. But what is that number? We can help those with different ways.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
10. It isn't free.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 10:14 AM
Jun 2021

It is not free when you have to take time off work. Get transportation. Do the same to go get your birth certificate. It is an immense amount of work to try and get everyone an id. Not to mention not everyone wants to have their info entered into the DMV system.

superpatriotman

(6,249 posts)
15. It isn't impossible, either
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 10:47 AM
Jun 2021

It’s just getting an ID. Not building an aqueduct.

Get them rides. Get them help. There’s not that many voters who don’t have or can’t get ID

We won WWII
We passed Civil Rights
We passed Obamacare

We can get some voters identification.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
19. Oh I agree.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 04:51 PM
Jun 2021

I agree and in fact this os the ground game that we need to be working on right now. It drives me crazy when people say if we don’t pass SR1 that it is game over. No. We meed to be actively beating the measures that the republicans are passing to try to keep people from voting.

And then we need to make sure that we fix those issues. Hold the house. Pick up 2 more seats at least in the senate and we could change the things that are plaguing this country for a long time.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
7. They don't but....
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 09:58 AM
Jun 2021

But they plan on circumventing it via the indirect initiative route. Through this process, they need to put the proposed laws up as initiated state statutes, then gather signatures for it. They need 8% of the total votes cast in the last governors race, which is about 340k if I remember correctly. If they get enough signatures, then the state legislature must pass it. The GOP control the MI legislature. If they pass it after they received it as an initiative, then it becomes law. There is no way for Whitmer to veto it.

PortTack

(32,779 posts)
14. Then Marc Elias & DNC may be adding it to the list as of law suits. Also, we'll see what
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 10:40 AM
Jun 2021

DOJ has to say.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
16. This is all just going through the motions
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 12:18 PM
Jun 2021

The state GOP's plan is to pass these laws via indirect initiative. They already knew they had zero chance of it passing the normal way.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
17. They also can't touch no excuse absentee voting.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jun 2021

That one is in the state constitution now thanks to the 2018 ballot prop.

superpatriotman

(6,249 posts)
12. Veto is fine
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 10:17 AM
Jun 2021

But just in case, let’s make sure Democratic voters have their papers in order.

It’s not rocket science.

DFW

(54,415 posts)
18. To answer your question
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 12:36 PM
Jun 2021

Republicans improve their chances of winning the more they manage to suppress the rights of Democrats to vote.

Sound simple? Yes. Because it IS that simple.

Their efforts are not noted in states with small populations and few Representatives in Congress. They ARE noted in states where there are many House seats at stake, gerrymandered districts, and non-solid voting trends over the last 30 years.

If anyone finds THAT a coincidence, I have some condos in the Trump Tower in Ouagadougou to sell you.

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