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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJustice Dept. sends letter to Missouri governor, says state can't void federal gun laws
The Justice Department warned Missouri officials that the state cant ignore federal law after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/justice-dept-sends-letter-to-missouri-governor-says-state-cant-void-federal-gun-laws/vi-AAL95Gq?ocid=mailsignout
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(35,454 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,869 posts)jonstl08
(412 posts)Parsons is the worst. Cannot believe he was elected again. Feel the citizens of my state have a screw loose.
Comfortably_Numb
(3,809 posts)sarisataka
(18,684 posts)Like Federal drug or immigration laws, localities can say they will not assist in enforcement but they cannot declare them null.
Hardhead1234
(2 posts)While I agree that states should not be able to disregard federal law how is what Missouri is doing any different than states that have passed recreational marijuana laws? I realize they are specifically banning police from enforcing federal law in this case but isn't legalizing recreational marijuana at the state level the same thing but done a different way. And yes marijuana should be legalized federally. Just trying understand the difference legally.
Fullduplexxx
(7,866 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,419 posts)but the analogy is correct, if states can ignore immigration laws, marijauana laws, then states can refuse to enforce Fed. firearm laws by not providing any resources to the Feds, like facilities, personnel, etc, they just can't interfere in the enforcement of those laws by the Feds.
Hardhead1234
(2 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,419 posts)Welcome to DU.
Fullduplexxx
(7,866 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,419 posts)and sorry if I came across as negative towards your post, I was just clarifying what states can and cannot do in regards to Fed. laws.
TomSlick
(11,102 posts)sarisataka
(18,684 posts)Although I expect this is a one post wonder, the question is valid.
If a state can invalidate Federal law A, why cannot another state invalidate Federal law B. Or if the first state is sanctioned for interference with Federal law enforcement should the other state be sanctioned?
The specific law is not relevant to the setting of precedent.
Fullduplexxx
(7,866 posts)sarisataka
(18,684 posts)Often people will cry whataboutism because they know they can't honestly answer the question without admitting bias and/or hypocrisy.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,419 posts)and the favorite saying is "NRA talking point" instead of offering a counter point.
ProfessorGAC
(65,093 posts)I think the bulk of the intent of federal laws focus on the interstate transport and illegal importation.
Yes, there are possession & small scale sales laws, but they barely enforced those.
They left that to the states already.
If a state decided to no longer consider that a crime, they were already leaving that to them. Nothing has really changed.
But, unless those guns were made in MO, interstate commerce has already occurred.
It's automatically no longer just a local affair.
With the states that legalized pit, they still can't ship surpluses out of state. I know this because of our prices here in Illinois! Lol! Look up the exact same product online from a pot store in California and the price is 40% tops. Their supply more than matches demand. Not so much here!
So, that industry has no inherent interstate commerce of direct interest to the fed.
That may not be a true legal distinction, but I think it's a practical one.
Lastly, having guns in the wrong hands presents a risk to the general public. Selling pot where the people voted to legalize means nobody really cares. The public risk is minimal to nonexistent.
Public safety & inherent interstate commerce seem to make the difference.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,419 posts)but they can deny the Feds any state, local resources, ie: facilities, personnel, etc.
What they can't do in interfere in the enforcement of those laws by the Feds.