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sheshe2

(83,818 posts)
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:13 PM Jun 2021

Tim Wise: White Panic




Tim Wise
@timjacobwise
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Jun 13
This was the year the miniseries was on, and the teachers wanted to either bury conversation about it (and its subject matter) or have us "trace our family tree" without thinking of how Black kids might experience that, and w/o confronting the enslavement elephant in the room (2)

Tim Wise
@timjacobwise
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I gather that this is what white conservatives prefer: avoiding truth and pain and conflict and contradiction and evil (if committed in our country and in our name or for our benefit). They have never wanted to face it. Not 200 years ago, and not today (3)...

Tim Wise
@timjacobwise
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And we just keep papering it over, we keep lying. And we say we do it to protect the kids from painful lessons. But who are we protecting? Not Black kids. Ignoring the experience of racism doesn't protect them from it. It merely makes it impossible for us to address it (4)..

Tim Wise
@timjacobwise
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...and that's what white folks are really worried about. If we tell the truth, and not only to kids of color (who often already learn it at home), but also to whites (who don't) it might cause some of those white kids to rethink their attachment to whiteness (5)...

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Tim Wise: White Panic (Original Post) sheshe2 Jun 2021 OP
This is part of what many white parents are worried about Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #1
Some "white folks" are afraid of the truth and some of us "white folks" say let the truth ring abqtommy Jun 2021 #2
And that was stated where exactly in my post? sheshe2 Jun 2021 #6
The same about To Kill a Mockingbird I expect. ananda Jun 2021 #3
Roots - the entire series - has been televised nationally FakeNoose Jun 2021 #4
Are you serious? StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #5
"trace our family tree" sheshe2 Jun 2021 #8
Surely, you knew that was coming StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #9
Yep. sheshe2 Jun 2021 #10
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2021 #7
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. This is part of what many white parents are worried about
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:54 PM
Jun 2021

"it might cause some of those white kids to rethink their attachment to whiteness"

But I think it's equally true that they're worried about black kids learning en masse, in an academic setting, about how their ancestors were mistreated, and adopt an attitude hostile to white people as a result.

Going all the way back to the beginnings of slavery in the US there's been a real paranoia among whites that the black folks could eventually rise up and kill all the white people who enslaved and abused them.

And the racists to this day remain terrified that this could happen. It's why they're so easily triggered by changing demographics, and why (many of them) are obsessively arming themselves. They SAY it's about 'the government', but that's really only part of what they fear, and probably not the main thing.

Summer 2020 scared the piss out of the people predisposed to fantasies of racial uprisings (and of course these are the same people who'd have chosen outlets who presented the facts and images of the summer in a way that confirmed their fears and biases).

Basically for racist white folk, teaching ANY kids about what really happened ... is a no-win proposition. So they're going to try to stop it if they can.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
2. Some "white folks" are afraid of the truth and some of us "white folks" say let the truth ring
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 07:52 PM
Jun 2021

loud and let the chips fall where they may. Don't ever get the idea that all "white folks" think or act
the same.

sheshe2

(83,818 posts)
6. And that was stated where exactly in my post?
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 08:03 PM
Jun 2021

[div class="excerpt"abqtommy

2. Some "white folks" are afraid of the truth and some of us "white folks" say let the truth ring

loud and let the chips fall where they may. Don't ever get the idea that all "white folks" think or act
the same.


And that was stated where exactly in my post?

No one said ALL WHITE FOLKS...no where was that said or implied.

FakeNoose

(32,670 posts)
4. Roots - the entire series - has been televised nationally
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 07:57 PM
Jun 2021

It would be interesting to know what state Tim Wise grew up in. I'm pretty sure Roots was on TV there, wherever it was. OK yeah, the book was out first.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
5. Are you serious?
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 07:58 PM
Jun 2021

And if you are, did you actually read the OP?

This was the year the miniseries was on, and the teachers wanted to either bury conversation about it (and its subject matter) or have us "trace our family tree" without thinking of how Black kids might experience that, and w/o confronting the enslavement elephant in the room

sheshe2

(83,818 posts)
8. "trace our family tree"
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 08:17 PM
Jun 2021

Their families past enslavement, yes.

Also tracing their family tree? That brings lynchings to mind. Strange Fruit.

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