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Judi Lynn

(160,633 posts)
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 04:59 PM Jun 2021

Pennsylvania Parents Sue School District Over Curriculum Involving Black Lives Matter, Systemic Raci

Pennsylvania Parents Sue School District Over Curriculum Involving Black Lives Matter, Systemic Racism: ‘These Topics Are Anti-Christian’
MARISA SARNOFF Jun 18th, 2021, 2:59 pm

A Pennsylvania couple is suing their children’s school district for discrimination stemming from their refusal to let their kids participate in curriculum discussing race, which the parents describe as “anti-Christian” and “anti-white.”

Maureen and Christopher Brophy sued the East Penn School District on Monday, claiming constitutional and civil rights violations under the Civil Rights Act and the American Disabilities Act.

The Brophys tried to opt-out of curriculum that included the book “White Fragility” as required reading for their children, a 16-year-old son identified as C.B. and a 15-year-old daughter identified as M.B.

“[The Brophys] indicated that the use of topics within their children’s classroom such as ‘systemic racism,’ ‘white fragility,’ ‘religion,’ ‘white privilege,’ ‘Black Lives Matter,’ and ‘police brutality’ were not acceptable and would not be tolerated,” the complaint says. “Plaintiff Parents explained that these topics are anti-Christian and therefore, discriminate directly against their religion.”

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Pennsylvania Parents Sue School District Over Curriculum Involving Black Lives Matter, Systemic Raci (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2021 OP
Oh My malaise Jun 2021 #1
ADA? what is their disability? No brain? Fucking Krisschin bigots. CurtEastPoint Jun 2021 #2
"We are ignorant and dumb as stumps" gratuitous Jun 2021 #3
It is anti-christian even though it is the SOP for white christians in the US... Thomas Hurt Jun 2021 #4
I have to admit, I don't think a book called 'White Fragility' is appropriate for public schools Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #5
Have you read the book? nt Phoenix61 Jun 2021 #9
I tend to agree. Jim__ Jun 2021 #10
Okay, yeah, if it's elective and you can choose that, or Underground Railroad and other options Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #11
Although the parents are providing a textbook example of it. JHB Jun 2021 #14
Anybody tell these knuckleheads that Jesus (if he existed) was a black man? Botany Jun 2021 #6
Given that Jesus was Judaean, I'm skeptical of that claim... N/T Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #17
And Jews can't be black? At least that is what the DNA tells us. Botany Jun 2021 #18
DNA also tells us that "race" is almost entirely a social/political construct, Hortensis Jun 2021 #19
Sure they can. I didn't claim otherwise. You asserted Jesus was black. Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #20
If you believe the bible ... (big if) ... it describes Jesus as having African features Botany Jun 2021 #23
That comes from the Book of Revelation and is probably his "transfigured" appearance. Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #24
You are probably right and taking the bible as evidence is problematic Botany Jun 2021 #26
Depictions of Jesus in different cultures Ex Lurker Jun 2021 #29
Snort Solly Mack Jun 2021 #7
I'm sick and tired of policies being arbitrarily stamped as "anti-Christian" no_hypocrisy Jun 2021 #8
SInce Anti- Christian would mean it's a bronze age practice... Claire Oh Nette Jun 2021 #25
It would be easier and cheaper if these folks would just tattoo "Racist" on their foreheads Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #12
The "anti-Christian" label has no standing in a public school curriculum FakeNoose Jun 2021 #13
Anti Christian goes to religion, which is a protected class. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #22
Can they embarrass their kids any more? Srkdqltr Jun 2021 #15
Like 80% of African-Americans self-identify as Christian. maxsolomon Jun 2021 #16
Too cheap to send their kids to a private "Christian" school? nt Progressive Jones Jun 2021 #21
Education is too important to be left to the parents Ex Lurker Jun 2021 #27
It makes me very sad, but I agree with your statement FakeNoose Jun 2021 #28

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. "We are ignorant and dumb as stumps"
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 05:10 PM
Jun 2021

And by golly, we want our kids to be the same!

Considering how Pennsylvania decided a case a few years ago against some yahoos that wanted the schools not to teach evolution, the Brophys may want to get used to disappointment.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
4. It is anti-christian even though it is the SOP for white christians in the US...
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 05:17 PM
Jun 2021

and has been for decades?

You can't discuss our sins in public school! It is not christian!

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. I have to admit, I don't think a book called 'White Fragility' is appropriate for public schools
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 05:22 PM
Jun 2021

On edit: At least not as REQUIRED reading, as a option it might be fine.

I think their argument based on 'religious freedom' is stupid, but at the same time ... I understand the complaint.

Flame away ...

Jim__

(14,086 posts)
10. I tend to agree.
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 05:36 PM
Jun 2021

If this book is part of a class that discusses a number of books with different points of view, then I think it discussing it is legitimate. But, if the class is limited to discussion of this book, I don't think that's appropriate for a high school class. The reviews I've read of this book, indicate it presents a vast over-simplification of complex issues.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. Okay, yeah, if it's elective and you can choose that, or Underground Railroad and other options
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 05:47 PM
Jun 2021

Then okay. But I don't think it should be required reading for a high school student.

Unless maybe if what's inside of it is vastly different from what's suggested by its cover, which is always possible

Botany

(70,592 posts)
6. Anybody tell these knuckleheads that Jesus (if he existed) was a black man?
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 05:31 PM
Jun 2021

Fox News is a brain sucking cancer on America.

Botany

(70,592 posts)
18. And Jews can't be black? At least that is what the DNA tells us.
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 07:26 PM
Jun 2021

A tribe of Jews from the land of David migrated to current day Somalia.



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. DNA also tells us that "race" is almost entirely a social/political construct,
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 07:37 PM
Jun 2021

not supported by DNA groupings. We all have the same DNA with a few variations seen more commonly in some geographic areas than in all.

Jedi Guy

(3,260 posts)
20. Sure they can. I didn't claim otherwise. You asserted Jesus was black.
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 07:42 PM
Jun 2021

As far as I've read, the Jewish diaspora didn't reach Africa until a while after the time of Jesus, possibly centuries after. So unless I'm missing something, which is certainly possible, there's no historical evidence to support the claim that Jesus was black. Furthermore, he was, as I pointed out, Judaean, and his lineage is traced back to either King David or King Solomon, depending on the source.

This is not to say that he was white, of course. The popular images of Jesus, with the long flowing brown hair, lily white skin, blue eyes, and European features are certainly not representative of what the historical Jesus would have looked like.

Botany

(70,592 posts)
23. If you believe the bible ... (big if) ... it describes Jesus as having African features
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 09:19 PM
Jun 2021

He had hair as of wool and feet were were bronze.


Jedi Guy

(3,260 posts)
24. That comes from the Book of Revelation and is probably his "transfigured" appearance.
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 10:21 PM
Jun 2021

It was based on the visions/dreams of (or revelations unto) the apostle John. It also describes Jesus' hair as being pure white and his eyes as being like flame, so perhaps you'll forgive me if I don't accept that as evidence that Jesus was black.

Diverse sources describe him as Judaean (Jewish), so he probably had dark brown or black hair, olive skin, and brown eyes. He was probably also quite short by modern standards, as the average height for men in that time and place was around 4'5". The odds of Jesus being black (or white, for that matter) are enormously remote.

Botany

(70,592 posts)
26. You are probably right and taking the bible as evidence is problematic
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 10:36 PM
Jun 2021

And did the traits we see today in Somali Jews were they also seen in Jews in the Land of David
in the times of Christ.

Although the Northern European looking Jesus is not realistic to me.



no_hypocrisy

(46,213 posts)
8. I'm sick and tired of policies being arbitrarily stamped as "anti-Christian"
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 05:35 PM
Jun 2021

when in fact it's religiously neutral. Whenever humanists, atheists, secularists have protested something that's blatantly indoctrinating towards Christianity, we're the ones called biased, that we're advancing OUR views. Especially in education, policies for teaching children have to be equitable. These PA folks are protesting BLM, etc. for being anti-Christian. I don't think they are and neither will a judge when it gets to court.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
25. SInce Anti- Christian would mean it's a bronze age practice...
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 10:28 PM
Jun 2021

While racism is much, much older than the United States, and the American Experiment is built on and based on enslavement--had Columbus and the Spaniards not killed off the Tainos, perhaps we'd not imported Black Africans starting in 1619.

I often wonder if these folks know the Dutch were some of the worst slavers, and enslaved whites, too.

But the Graduate level critical lens through which to view how racism is built into our institutions and systems is not being taught in schools.

White Fragility, like Black Boy, like Things Fall Apart, like Native Son, like I know why the Caged Bird SIngs, all garner protest from parents who don't want their children to...be exposed to Black people. Or their own narrow minded bigotry that is just polite racism.

They object to the truth and to history, because they benefit from that history, and they know damn good and well they not superior to anyone, and they really can't compete if the game's not rigged.

If it's anti christian, they can point to what Christ said, which is in the red letters....



FakeNoose

(32,787 posts)
13. The "anti-Christian" label has no standing in a public school curriculum
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 05:55 PM
Jun 2021

... as far as I know. Maybe they've got some kind of proof that these lessons are "anti-white" but I doubt it. Especially since there are no other school parents joining the Brophy's in the lawsuit. So ...

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
22. Anti Christian goes to religion, which is a protected class.
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 08:16 PM
Jun 2021

While prayer is not undertaken at school because of separation of Church and state, you cannot discriminate based on religion either. Their argument is stupid and baseless, but that is the premise upon which they are claiming injury.

maxsolomon

(33,417 posts)
16. Like 80% of African-Americans self-identify as Christian.
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 06:56 PM
Jun 2021

Blacks are christian in higher numbers than Whypipo.

So, what Christianity are they talking about? Christian Identity?

Ex Lurker

(3,816 posts)
27. Education is too important to be left to the parents
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 12:34 AM
Jun 2021

Face it, most white adults will never voluntarily surrender their priviledged position. It's up to the next generation to dismantle the institutions of whiteness white supremacy. In order to do that they must learn to think critically about whiteness, white fragility, and their complicitness in the racist power structure. They must be taught this even if their parents violently oppose it.

FakeNoose

(32,787 posts)
28. It makes me very sad, but I agree with your statement
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 08:58 AM
Jun 2021

What a world we live in. What a country this has become.

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