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applegrove

(118,774 posts)
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 02:28 PM Jun 2021

The Republican Party Is Totally Collapsing In The Suburbs

BY JASON EASLEY at PoliticusUSA

The Republican Party Is Totally Collapsing In The Suburbs

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/06/18/republicans-collapsing-in-suburbs.html

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Affluent suburban neighborhoods that used to be solidly Republicans have now flipped to voting for and electing Democrats.

Politico wrote about Oakland County, Michigan, and other suburbs:

Between Barack Obama’s campaign in 2012 and Joe Biden’s in 2020, the margin of victory for Democratic presidential candidates in Oakland grew by roughly 55,000 votes. Few have noticed it, but Oakland’s share of the statewide Democratic vote now exceeds that of the city of Detroit. Oakland now accounts for roughly 1 in every 7 votes statewide. And those votes are being cast for Democrats at much higher rates than they used to be.

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And there are Oakland Counties all around the nation—affluent, longtime Republican suburbs that have been trending Democratic for a long time, but where the Trump years marked a tipping point. “Look at why the Republicans are so obsessed with reversing Maricopa [County, Arizona]—but also Gwinnett [County, Georgia]—both key to Biden and Democrats winning the states and Senate,” says Greenberg.

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The Republican Party Is Totally Collapsing In The Suburbs (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2021 OP
They say that like it's a bad thing... Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #1
K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2021 #2
Here is how bad it is, by the time it comes to "counting" the votes and "certifying" elections Eliot Rosewater Jun 2021 #4
You are more right than wrong edhopper Jun 2021 #6
I have the same concern, except GoodRaisin Jun 2021 #8
+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #14
I wont repeat this because I dont want to dampen turnout, but the count Eliot Rosewater Jun 2021 #16
Lol..yeah 😊 Demovictory9 Jun 2021 #9
Did you hear that, Mitch? Blue Owl Jun 2021 #3
This is encouraging and I hope it's true Diamond_Dog Jun 2021 #5
We can but hope Hekate Jun 2021 #7
The Democratic Party is now a centrist party. roamer65 Jun 2021 #10
There's more to it than that though Metaphorical Jun 2021 #15
There is absolutely something to your last sentence Cosmocat Jun 2021 #17
If that was true...we'd have 350 seats in the House, right? WarGamer Jun 2021 #11
Dishonesty, corruption and intolerance. C_U_L8R Jun 2021 #12
College educated women don't like the sexism, stupidity, and getting on up in their bizness. Botany Jun 2021 #13

Wounded Bear

(58,704 posts)
1. They say that like it's a bad thing...
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 02:29 PM
Jun 2021


We still have to guard against complacency and need to continue the GOTV efforts that led to the 2018-20 surge.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
4. Here is how bad it is, by the time it comes to "counting" the votes and "certifying" elections
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 02:32 PM
Jun 2021

the GOP will have installed trumpers everywhere they have power and that will be the end of America.

I am certain of it and living my life now assuming that they will hunt me down when this happens.

I wanna be wrong but NOTHING they do or say makes me think it wont happen.

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
6. You are more right than wrong
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 02:35 PM
Jun 2021

they are setting it up to retake Congress in 2022 and the Presidency in 2024. And Manchin is preventing the Dems from stopping them.
They will gerrymander suburban voters out of the equation.

GoodRaisin

(8,928 posts)
8. I have the same concern, except
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 02:54 PM
Jun 2021

I'm not worried about being hunted down (yet). But I think Republicans have made it perfectly clear that their strategy is to pass laws that will allow them to overturn the will of the voters. So, unless we can stop that I believe we will see our first un-democratic election in 2022.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. +1000
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 07:35 PM
Jun 2021

I want to be wrong, but I think the steal is already in for 2022. I'm not even confident that massive voter turnout is going to stop them this time. They are determined and they play dirty. They will do anything to win back power.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
16. I wont repeat this because I dont want to dampen turnout, but the count
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 09:00 PM
Jun 2021

wont matter.

They will say it is not legit, end of story.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
10. The Democratic Party is now a centrist party.
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 03:23 PM
Jun 2021

The Repuke Party of years gone by doesn’t exist anymore.

It’s now the Trumpist Party. A rural based racist, xenophobic party.

The process playing out now in Michigan is what we saw in New England, New York, California, Oregon and Washington over the past 20 years. Eventually most of Michigan will be solid blue, except for the depopulated rural areas.

Metaphorical

(1,604 posts)
15. There's more to it than that though
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 07:38 PM
Jun 2021

In the 1950s and early 60s, the Republican party for the most part was made of urban professionals, which at that point was mostly management. The Democrats had been a labor party and fairly strong behind the unionization effort. The civil rights movement in the 60s changed that, and as that started to include women that changed the dynamic, with more conservative labor democrats (especially but not exclusively in the Southeast, heavily religious, rural, and usually less likely to be college-educated) joining the Republican party after the Dixiecrats jumped ship in the late 1960s.

At the same time, the workforce also shifted to become more college-educated, more service-oriented, more familiar with technology and usually more concentrated in the urban and suburban regions. Even in management, the ones most likely to be Republican were the old guard sales management, but as companies have become more technically oriented, the newer levels of management have generally found that while their families may have been Republican, they are more likely to be independent, or even to lean Democrat. Arizona is trending blueish purple because the desert-seeking retirees who were 1960s Democrats in their youth are being replaced increasingly by the middle-class workers coming from Silicon Valley.

That means that old-style manufacturing labor Democrats who have since retired are making up a smaller and smaller part of the overall workforce, are more heavily conservative, and likely were ripe for Trump's populism because, in all honesty, they were being ignored by what has become a technocratically-oriented party.

It's also worth noting that this evolution is itself not totally played out. I think Trumpism was the last hurrah of 60s conservatism and we'll see a short window where liberal politics may start waxing again, but I think that there's a broader schism that's taking place between the progressive and moderate wings of the Democratic party who are socially moderate but lean economically Libertarian.

Cosmocat

(14,572 posts)
17. There is absolutely something to your last sentence
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 11:12 PM
Jun 2021

While President Biden is polling at 60% by rolling up his sleeves, getting shit down and being very neutral in his language party activists are WAY too focused on fringy cultural issues, which is peeling off dems who know Republicans are insane, but see the party energy mostly on culture.

Dems lose pretty much every time they get into mud wrestling over culture.

WarGamer

(12,481 posts)
11. If that was true...we'd have 350 seats in the House, right?
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 03:28 PM
Jun 2021

Oh wait... it's politicus, aka progressive catnip, aka clickbait.

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