Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

mcar

(42,376 posts)
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 01:36 PM Jun 2021

The Clan of the Red Beanie's American Branch Is on the March Against Joe Biden

Bold mine.

The Clan of the Red Beanie's American Branch Is on the March Against Joe Biden
It takes a lot of imperial gall for American bishops to advise the priests in their dioceses to take an action the Pope has publicly opposed.

By Charles P. Pierce
Jun 21, 2021

The Clan of the Red Beanie’s American branch always has looked hungrily at the rising political power of that splinter of American Protestantism that has attached itself to conservative politics. For a long while, it had its face planted against the showcase window because many of those Protestants also believed the Pope was the Whore of Babylon. Under the papacies of John Paul II and Benedict, the forces nearly were joined, but then Holy Mother Church stood revealed as an international conspiracy to obstruct justice, so that threw a wrench into the works. Now that we have the second Roman Catholic president in our history, the Clan of the Red Beanie (American Branch), which has little use for Papa Francesco, has decided to flex again. ...

The Times, and other outlets, are guilty of hyping this development just a bit. First of all, this is the draft of a letter from a bunch of busybody Pat Robertson wannabes that has almost no chance of passing through the entire USCCB this fall. (In addition, the sourcing on the Times story is embarrassing, far too heavily weighted toward the conservative American churchmen and laity.) Second, until they’re willing to drop the same sanction on politicians who support—or worse, carry out—the death penalty, nobody should care what they think. And third, and most important, it takes a lot of imperial gall for American bishops to advise the priests in their dioceses to take an action the Pope has publicly opposed. If bishops won’t listen to their Pope, why should priests listen to their bishops?

In short, whatever this sizable rump faction of the American episcopate wants to declare, any priest who wants to give communion to Joe Biden should do so freely in the knowledge that the Chair of Peter is behind him. If these people want a schismatic American Catholic church because they’re not riding high in Rome anymore, they should go ahead, show some guts, and declare one. Vatican II declared that the Church was the entire People of God, and a lot of us are tired of being perennially pestered by Papal States nostalgics who dress more extravagantly than Bob Mackie ever dressed Cher.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a36789718/american-bishops-joe-biden-communion-abortion/

23 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The Clan of the Red Beanie's American Branch Is on the March Against Joe Biden (Original Post) mcar Jun 2021 OP
Pedophile organization said what. onecaliberal Jun 2021 #1
Indeed. People in glass houses, etc. wnylib Jun 2021 #20
The Roman Catholic Church Has No Moral Ground on Which to Stand. MineralMan Jun 2021 #2
Yep. They need to tend their own garden mcar Jun 2021 #5
Pierce points out what many in the popular media are missing gratuitous Jun 2021 #3
MSM seems to fall for the right-wing's messaging on a regular basis. nt mcar Jun 2021 #6
So President Biden's comment the other day about not thinking "that" wouldn't happen is PortTack Jun 2021 #11
Totally off topic... Can we call all with red caps, red beanie boys? nt Nittersing Jun 2021 #4
I'd toss in the maga Beanies with the bishop beanies. wnylib Jun 2021 #21
Man, you're killing me here. "The clan of the red beanies." Too much! 😂 Firestorm49 Jun 2021 #7
Right? mcar Jun 2021 #8
I thought they were talking about MAGAts. I guess the red MAGAT hat is no coincidence... lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #9
I thought it was a reference to red maga hats... asiliveandbreathe Jun 2021 #12
the Catholic Church is the devils playground stillcool Jun 2021 #10
Remove their tax exempt status - shut up or pay up Number9Dream Jun 2021 #13
Charlie Pierce is sorely missed on "Wait, Wait..." SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2021 #14
Aha! That's why the name and style seems familiar to me. wnylib Jun 2021 #22
Unvaxxed conservatives need to go to church indoors and breathe deep IronLionZion Jun 2021 #15
Best comment: TygrBright Jun 2021 #16
He spelled Klan wrong. n/t FSogol Jun 2021 #17
They can stick that crucifix up where the sun don't shine. DinahMoeHum Jun 2021 #18
As an Atheist, it's amazing how many Atheists I meet Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #19
Inquisition, American style. wnylib Jun 2021 #23

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
2. The Roman Catholic Church Has No Moral Ground on Which to Stand.
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jun 2021

It has not had that for centuries, if ever. It ignores widespread institutional child molestation within its hierarchy, systemic misogyny, and many other actions that go directly against what Jesus Christ supposedly said people should do. And yet, it condemns a man who personally does not like abortion but does not insist on blocking a woman from making her own reproductive choices. The RCC also condemns women who are not even members of its own body of Christianity for choosing their own times to have children and to control the number of pregnancies they will endure.

Since the RCC, itself, is guilty of many moral failings, today and in past centuries. I say it has no authority over anyone. Not over its own membership, and especially not over the vast majority of people on this planet who are not Roman Catholics.

Heal yourself, RCC. Until you do, just keep your orders to yourself.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Pierce points out what many in the popular media are missing
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jun 2021

"This is the draft of a letter from a bunch of busybody Pat Robertson wannabes that has almost no chance of passing through the entire USCCB this fall." The media outlets are pumping up this nonsense for no newsworthy reason, except maybe nostalgia for the rough-and-tumble of the former guy's daily bullshit.

PortTack

(32,797 posts)
11. So President Biden's comment the other day about not thinking "that" wouldn't happen is
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 02:28 PM
Jun 2021

Correct

Thx for the in depth post!

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
12. I thought it was a reference to red maga hats...
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jun 2021

Thinking it goes with "not having to raise the bar, just needing to lower the barstool"..and yes, someone wants to approach me with a red maga hat..I will be ready..clan of the red beanies..OMG..

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
10. the Catholic Church is the devils playground
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 02:28 PM
Jun 2021

it's all those damn humans that think they're divine.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,145 posts)
14. Charlie Pierce is sorely missed on "Wait, Wait..."
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jun 2021

..but his writing style sure makes the medicine go down.

IronLionZion

(45,541 posts)
15. Unvaxxed conservatives need to go to church indoors and breathe deep
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jun 2021

and mind their own business. It's very easy to advocate for the unborn instead of helping living people get health care, food, clothing, shelter, and the necessities of life.

TygrBright

(20,771 posts)
16. Best comment:
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 04:07 PM
Jun 2021

"Gee, the current president is the most open practitioner of our religion ever to hold the office, and he's extremely popular and liked. How should we best make use of this opportunity?"

Yep, that's the Catholic Church alright.

amusedly,
Bright

DinahMoeHum

(21,812 posts)
18. They can stick that crucifix up where the sun don't shine.
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 04:14 PM
Jun 2021

Fucking pedos are not in a position to preach to the rest of us about morals.

Mr.Bill

(24,330 posts)
19. As an Atheist, it's amazing how many Atheists I meet
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 04:35 PM
Jun 2021

went to Catholic school, including myself. So that is one useful function they are serving. A long time ago a fudamentalist Christian I worked with told me Catholic school is where they train Atheists. I think he was right.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The Clan of the Red Beani...