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Nevilledog

(51,186 posts)
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 11:20 AM Jun 2021

Republicans in MO are getting ready to have a special session to outlaw birth control.





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Claire McCaskill
@clairecmc
Update: crazy Republicans in MO are getting ready to have a special session to outlaw birth control. You seriously can’t make this stuff up.

They want to make sure women on Medicaid can’t use an IUD. No word about the state mandating condoms…

This is the kind of extreme that happens when there is no balance in government. These men think they are politically invincible because Trump won our state, and their leader won the Governor’s race, both by a large margin. There will be a wake up call in the future.
8:16 AM · Jun 23, 2021

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Republicans in MO are getting ready to have a special session to outlaw birth control. (Original Post) Nevilledog Jun 2021 OP
Women, get out of MO now! jmbar2 Jun 2021 #1
No surprises here. FalloutShelter Jun 2021 #2
Some conservative on Twitter said that "abortion is the easy way out" NYC Liberal Jun 2021 #6
Cruelty is always the point FalloutShelter Jun 2021 #10
+1000. The "right to privacy" aka "right to be left alone" by government Hortensis Jun 2021 #44
But but but they are going NUTS over FalloutShelter Jun 2021 #57
Umhm. Fascists would order masks and vaccination when it suited them, Hortensis Jun 2021 #60
Evidently, Republicans don't have much sex C_U_L8R Jun 2021 #3
They pass this shit, they won't have much at all. Cracklin Charlie Jun 2021 #5
FATLYRUTTSA Solly Mack Jun 2021 #4
Why do women vote for republicans? Fullduplexxx Jun 2021 #7
They are Christian women. nt. Mariana Jun 2021 #17
Birth control is the biggest deterrent to abortion. Don't try and tell me these MEN Maraya1969 Jun 2021 #8
Bingo wryter2000 Jun 2021 #11
Missouri Handmaid's Tale Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #9
A blend of Handmaid's Tale with wnylib Jun 2021 #42
I lived in MO for 6 years from 1988-94. mnhtnbb Jun 2021 #12
That family doctor is probably a much better person than me gratuitous Jun 2021 #15
Reminds me of when I lived in Utah and the saying would go aeromanKC Jun 2021 #16
lol.nt chowder66 Jun 2021 #21
Same joke exists in other areas with tea-totaling denominations. N/T JHB Jun 2021 #41
In the 1970s, after Roe v Wade, a young woman wnylib Jun 2021 #46
A well documented, and apparently common phenomenon. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #52
They plan to stop funding birth control via Medicaid, not outlaw it. Still a terrible idea, Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #13
Soooooo, now the GOP is Pro-Sharia law? aeromanKC Jun 2021 #14
The Christian Taliban is growing across the nation. walkingman Jun 2021 #18
Finally!!! Coming at what they really hate and it's not Roe v. Wade Grins Jun 2021 #19
Noticing more anti-birth control signs by pro-forced birthers. n/t MarcA Jun 2021 #25
They love to pretend that birth control equals abortion. Mariana Jun 2021 #35
Women need to stop having sex with these men. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2021 #20
I think you are right. roamer65 Jun 2021 #37
15 years ago I told my wife that outlawing birth control was the GOP's ultimate goal. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2021 #22
They're not trying to outlaw it, they plan to stop funding it through Medicaid. Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #24
Don't kid yourself... AZ8theist Jun 2021 #27
I agree, that's the goal of many (most?) Republicans. Nonetheless, the headline is inaccurate. Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Oppaloopa Jun 2021 #55
Spectrum had the movie "Row v Wade " very upsetting even gross movie One scene had doctors timing Oppaloopa Jun 2021 #56
for anyone who thinks the anti-abortion movement is about babies rather than women having sex paulkienitz Jun 2021 #23
For those Dependent on Medicaid it is de facto outlawing. n/t MarcA Jun 2021 #26
Mergers and outsourcing have killed a lot of union jobs LT Barclay Jun 2021 #28
I'm sure outlawing women getting their tubes tied will be next. Norbert Jun 2021 #29
I'm old enough to remember when they wanted to make it mandatory Mariana Jun 2021 #40
It's clear the anti-abortion movement also has birth control in its crosshairs dlk Jun 2021 #30
What am I missing here? Katinfl Jun 2021 #32
The headline is inaccurate. They're preparing to remove birth control from Medicaid, not outlaw it. Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #34
So they can hate on poor women more than they do already? ladym55 Jun 2021 #43
I'm simply pointing out that the headline is wrong. Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #45
I get that ... ladym55 Jun 2021 #48
Fair enough! Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #50
And that is called class warfare as well as racist. lonely bird Jun 2021 #47
Shouldn't the headline accurately represent the actual story? Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #51
They love the babies UNTIL they're born. mac56 Jun 2021 #33
It has nothing to do with babies. It's about power. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #54
Outlawing vasectomies? cbabe Jun 2021 #36
I feel like laughing and crying at the same time.... Sogo Jun 2021 #38
Women need to make it clear that NOBODY is gonna get laid. Ever again. flying_wahini Jun 2021 #39
Where's Lysistrata when you need her? Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #49
Shouldn't they be doing something to 'outlaw' covid? Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #53
NO! THEY! ARE! NOT! brooklynite Jun 2021 #58
This is just the beginning. 1st they'll get rid of abortion and then move onto birth control twin_ghost Jun 2021 #61
Handmaids Tale. sarcasmo Jun 2021 #59

FalloutShelter

(11,877 posts)
2. No surprises here.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 11:29 AM
Jun 2021

As someone who has been involved in the reproductive freedom movement... we have known since the 70s that abortion is only the foot in the door issue. It has ALWAYS been about birth control.
If the SCOTUS rules against Roe... birth control is next. Make no mistake.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
6. Some conservative on Twitter said that "abortion is the easy way out"
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jun 2021

And that's it right there. Women suffering needlessly isn't a side effect; it's the whole point.

FalloutShelter

(11,877 posts)
10. Cruelty is always the point
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 11:53 AM
Jun 2021

With these hypocritical fundies.
I’m always reminded of the Line Max Von Sydow
delivers in HANNAH AND HER SISTERS. Something like: If Jesus came back today and saw what was done in his name, he would never stop pukeing.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
44. +1000. The "right to privacy" aka "right to be left alone" by government
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:49 PM
Jun 2021

is the constitutional basis for both contraception and abortion, and an extremely vulnerable one. This right to sovereignty over our own bodies (and much else) is nowhere stated, only cobbled together and inferred by liberal justices in the 1960s from various snips of the constitution.

Many strongly disagreed then and have ever since, and the disagreers have a real case.

They also have six conservative justices, all Catholic and religious (Gorsuch raised, then switched to Anglican). TRump's/Religious Right's three new justices are all far-right political agents of the Republican-fronted cabal, including the Religious Right, and, ostentatiously, "originalists" and "textualists."

Oh, and judicial activists. That's a good thing on the right when the plan is to reinterpret the constitution and undo over 200 years of liberalism and progressivism in the law.

The religious right is preparing the law in dozens of states against the day. They just can't wait even if they should to avoid spooking the majority into realization and action.

FalloutShelter

(11,877 posts)
57. But but but they are going NUTS over
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 02:38 PM
Jun 2021

a 2oz piece of cloth, worn to protect everyone. But yeah... let us tell you what to do with your body WTAF!!!!!!!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
60. Umhm. Fascists would order masks and vaccination when it suited them,
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 03:00 PM
Jun 2021

and everyone would obey.

We know the RW leaders allowed, even encouraged, this pandemic to sweep America instead of containing it, well documented, but not why. Pandemics and other disasters are famously potentially very helpful to ruthless power seekers. So I'm guessing this was an opportunistic decision, which may almost have made itself because this virus mostly kills those in their retirement years and/or chronically ill (recipients of very expensive entitlements) and mostly leaves alone those in their working years.

And this is them without the power they need to MAGA.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
5. They pass this shit, they won't have much at all.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 11:43 AM
Jun 2021

I’m so ashamed of the place I live. We have real problems here that are being ignored or exacerbated.

The state house reeks.

Maraya1969

(22,495 posts)
8. Birth control is the biggest deterrent to abortion. Don't try and tell me these MEN
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 11:52 AM
Jun 2021

care about "life". They want to control and subjugate women. And too many women don't think but follow them into creating their own personal abuse.

wryter2000

(46,077 posts)
11. Bingo
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jun 2021

Anyone who wanted to prevent abortion would be in favor of birth control. They are anti-woman and anti-sex.

Johnny2X2X

(19,108 posts)
9. Missouri Handmaid's Tale
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 11:52 AM
Jun 2021

There are absolutely significant factions in the GOP that would honestly love to turn the United States into the Handmaid's Tale. They are the American Taliban.

wnylib

(21,586 posts)
42. A blend of Handmaid's Tale with
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:39 PM
Jun 2021

Stepford Wives.

This sounds like a Catholic Church influence. The Catholic Church opposes all birth control, but especially comes out against IUDs because an IUD works by preventing a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterine wall. Therefore, the Catholic Church considers IUDs to be abortion devices.

Evangelicals likely take the same position.

mnhtnbb

(31,402 posts)
12. I lived in MO for 6 years from 1988-94.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 12:05 PM
Jun 2021

The local newspaper used to come to me for quotes on pro-choice issues because I was vocal in the small town where I lived. The family doc where I took my two young sons for pediatric care told me one time while I was in his office that he had parents/patients in his practice who were vehemently anti-abortion until their teenage daughters got pregnant and then they wanted to know where to go for an abortion.

There are so many judgmental "Christians" in the ranks of the anti-abortion folks. Basically, they just want to tell other people how to live their lives.

American Taliban.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. That family doctor is probably a much better person than me
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 12:19 PM
Jun 2021

If I was approached by an anti-abortion zealot looking for a referral because their little princess had gotten in a familly way, my response may have been, "Why don't you ask your pastor?"

aeromanKC

(3,326 posts)
16. Reminds me of when I lived in Utah and the saying would go
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 12:20 PM
Jun 2021

Why do you take 2 Mormons fishing with you? Because, if you only bring one he drinks all your beer.

wnylib

(21,586 posts)
46. In the 1970s, after Roe v Wade, a young woman
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:52 PM
Jun 2021

I worked with was very active in the anti choice movement. She lived with her boyfriend and was helping to support him while he was in law school. She knew that I disagreed with her on abortion.

One day she took me aside and said she just learned that she was pregnant. She was crying and asked if I knew where she could get an abortion. We lived in a very predominantly Catholic city, with one Catholic hospital and one hospital without religious affiliations, but anti choice attitudes were very strong in town. I suggested she look out of town or out of state.

She did get her abortion and rationalized that her situation was "different." i was astonished that she conttinued her anti choice activism after her abortion. Somehow in her mind, it was wrong for everyone else, just not wrong for her.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
13. They plan to stop funding birth control via Medicaid, not outlaw it. Still a terrible idea,
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 12:14 PM
Jun 2021

but they're not (at this time, anyway) trying to make it illegal.

Grins

(7,227 posts)
19. Finally!!! Coming at what they really hate and it's not Roe v. Wade
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 12:37 PM
Jun 2021

It’s Griswold v. Connecticut.

I didn’t think it would come this way and at this time, but here it is.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
35. They love to pretend that birth control equals abortion.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:33 PM
Jun 2021

Seriously, they preach that most forms of birth control work by causing abortions. Some of them call Plan B and even ordinary daily birth control pills "abortion pills".

leftyladyfrommo

(18,869 posts)
20. Women need to stop having sex with these men.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 12:41 PM
Jun 2021

Seriously. Let them go play with themselves on Zoom.

If they are going to be jackasses let them be jackasses by themselves.

I have come to dislike Republican men in Missouri and everywhere else. They are mean and they are dangerous to all of us.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
24. They're not trying to outlaw it, they plan to stop funding it through Medicaid.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 12:55 PM
Jun 2021

It's a lousy idea, but the headline is inaccurate.

AZ8theist

(5,488 posts)
27. Don't kid yourself...
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:05 PM
Jun 2021

Their current goal is to overturn Roe v Wade and their ULTIMATE goal is to overturn Griswold v Connecticut.

(Wouldn't surprise me one bit these Neanderthals want to repeal the 19th Amendment)

The war in women goals and tactics are easily predictable. They MOST DEFINETLY want to outlaw contraception.

Response to AZ8theist (Reply #27)

Oppaloopa

(867 posts)
56. Spectrum had the movie "Row v Wade " very upsetting even gross movie One scene had doctors timing
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 02:31 PM
Jun 2021

themselves doing abortions with bins of body parts next to them .

LT Barclay

(2,606 posts)
28. Mergers and outsourcing have killed a lot of union jobs
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:07 PM
Jun 2021

So the state may be irredeemably in the hands of the lunatic fringe

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
40. I'm old enough to remember when they wanted to make it mandatory
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:38 PM
Jun 2021

for every woman receiving any public assistance to be sterilized or use birth control. When Norplant first came out, they were in raptures because they wanted to make having the implant a requirement for a woman to get benefits.

dlk

(11,575 posts)
30. It's clear the anti-abortion movement also has birth control in its crosshairs
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:17 PM
Jun 2021

Controlling women’s bodies has always been the goal.

Katinfl

(158 posts)
32. What am I missing here?
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:29 PM
Jun 2021

How could this possibly be mandated? Take condoms off the shelf? Birth control pills no longer available? This is crazy. First they make legal abortion practically unavailable and then outlaw birth control so there are more pregnancies? Especially for Medicaid families? This is some scary times we are living in.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
43. So they can hate on poor women more than they do already?
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:49 PM
Jun 2021

These are the same white men who tsk-tsk about lazy women making babies they can't afford. The cruelty is the point.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
48. I get that ...
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:55 PM
Jun 2021

To me the law is just awful because it again singles out poor women. And I think you made an important distinction. No criticism intended at all.

lonely bird

(1,687 posts)
47. And that is called class warfare as well as racist.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:53 PM
Jun 2021

Wealthy women, likely white, will be able to get it. Poor women, likely of color, will have a harder time.

Beyond that it is simplistic to think that the end goal is not control of birth control.

Crunchy Frog

(26,629 posts)
54. It has nothing to do with babies. It's about power.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 02:24 PM
Jun 2021

Most of these men will happily obtain abortions for their daughters and mistresses. Maybe even force it on them.

brooklynite

(94,716 posts)
58. NO! THEY! ARE! NOT!
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 02:39 PM
Jun 2021

I have deep respect for Senator McCaskill, but this is very misleading.

The MO Legislature is NOT planning to "outlaw" birth control. They are debating preventing State Medicaid payments from covering SOME forms of post-sex birth control, including Plan B. They will still be available for purchase at cost or covered by private insurance.

Missouri GOP likely to include ban on birth control coverage in Medicaid tax compromise
BY JEANNE KUANG AND JONATHAN SHORMAN

Missouri Republicans are still weighing a ban on Medicaid coverage of Plan B and other contraceptives as part of a compromise on renewing a crucial tax that funds the health program.

Efforts to approve the renewal fell apart in the Senate last month at the end of the regular session. GOP leaders were caught between conservative colleagues demanding the birth control provisions and Democrats, who said they were promised a tax renewal without them.

Republicans now appear ready to negotiate an agreement on their own and haven’t sought the support of Democratic leadership. Including some form of a coverage ban would signal that top GOP officials hope to win over the most conservative and vocally anti-abortion senators.

Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article252159208.html#storylink=cpy

twin_ghost

(435 posts)
61. This is just the beginning. 1st they'll get rid of abortion and then move onto birth control
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 03:05 PM
Jun 2021

It's none of the government business what treatments or medications your doctor prescribes you.

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