'They're Probably Going to Try to Kill Him': Derek Chauvin Will Be 'Instant Target' in Prison

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Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin will be an “instant target” and will face efforts by other inmates to “kill him,” a current inmate and former prison warden both warned in advance of the convicted murderer’s scheduled sentencing this Friday, June 25.

“Jeez, I hate to say this, but I would say that they’re probably going to try to kill him,” Michael J. Moore, a currently incarcerated author, said in an interview ... “The maximum security prisons are obviously, among the inmates, run by gangs,” Moore said. “They’re going to [want to] send somebody to scatter [Chauvin], or a couple people to beat him up… the guys in here, they earn a lot of points, I guess you would say for things like that.”

Veteran former warden Cameron Lindsay said prison officials need to take enhanced security measures to protect Chauvin behind bars. “One could argue that Derek Chauvin is America’s most hated person,” Lindsay said ... “So therefore, the Minnesota Department of Corrections will have a challenge in terms of ensuring his safety and security.”

Since late April, the convicted police officer has been housed within Oak Park Heights’ Administrative Control Unit, Minnesota’s only Level 5 maximum-security prison. Under this protective custody setting, Chauvin has experienced both isolation and 24-hour surveillance, 23 hour periods of solitary confinement, and a daily total of 1 hour of recreational activity allotted to him.

When asked about Chauvin’s ultimate fate in prison, Moore told Brian Ross Investigates: “You know, I hate to say it … it’s a bleak reality for a guy like him.”

https://lawandcrime.com/ross-investigates/theyre-probably-going-to-try-to-kill-him-inmate-and-former-prison-warden-agree-derek-chauvin-will-be-instant-target-in-prison/?utm_source=mostpopular

[Mr.Bill]

1. Best news I've read all day. n/t

[Loki Liesmith]

5. Inspiring

[brush]

24. He'll last about as long as Jeffrey Epstein did. He's done for all right.

[USALiberal]

57. Glad you love prison violence! Nt

[wryter2000]

2. Gee

Do you think they’ll kneel on his neck for 9.5 minutes?

[Drum]

3. Chauvin's earned any upcoming anguish,

the sadist.

[RegularJam]

4. There are safe facilities all across the country.

I think the blowback would be pretty bad if he was sent to one but it would be understandable. A lot of these facilities are pretty comfortable.

Not sure how else they can do it outside of permanent solitary.

[Bev54]

33. Yes, in Canada we just had a parole hearing for rapist and killer

Paul Bernardo and it was revealed he is still in solitary confinement and has been for 25 years. If they don't put Chauvin in general population I am ok with him in solitary confinement.

[Elessar Zappa]

44. Yeah, I don't think he

should be able to avoid a max security prison. Murderers don’t get to live in comfortable facilities.

[RegularJam]

50. Some murderers do get to live in comfortable facilities.

This guy doesn’t meet the normal criteria but I don’t know how else they are going to keep him safe.

It’s got to be that, permanent solitary, or possible a smaller section housing sexual predators and other high risk individuals. I think the two former ones are probably the best options.

[Dan]

58. Question, which facilities are "comfortable" for blue collar crimes?

Not talking about the Rich Boys prisons - that's like a college dorm.

[Calista241]

63. He was convicted by the State of Minnesota

and can only be housed by the State of Minnesota unless they come to a special arrangement with the Feds or another state.

And I don't see Minnesota putting that much effort into maintaining his safety, which would be dubious in any prison system, Fed or otherwise.

[Champion Jack]

6. So....?

[Skittles]

7. no one should be advocating for prison violence

he's really gonna probably need to stay in solitary....gives him time to reflect on the choices that put him there

[USALiberal]

52. I agree, but common here! Nt

[Loki Liesmith]

8. Must be more pro-death penalty Dems here than I thought.

[Skittles]

15. they're "progressive" until revenge gets factored in

then everything is on the table it would seem: death penalty, prison violence, etc.

[USALiberal]

53. Disgusting!! Nt

[Cinnamonspice]

65. Guilty.

I would have had no problem with sentencing Chauvin to death, but they didn't and won't. The only reason I'm officially against the death penalty at this point is because I know there are innocent people being put to death and because of systemic racism. Black people are more likely than white people to be put to death for the same type of crimes.

Having said all of that, Chauvin needs to be kept from the general population. He needs to be given the same human rights that he denied to George Floyd.

[babylonsister]

9. Solitary sounds great, but I have no sympathy. He didn't. nt

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

20. +1

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. It's really a shame we have prisons run by gangs.

There has to be a better way to manage prison populations so that the violent offenders can’t cause such havoc.

There has to be a way to humanely lock down inmates without cruel isolation.

[Blue_true]

21. Unfortunately the really hard core convicts are going to establish

hierarchies, barring the ones that give up the hard core stuff and start reforming their lives.

The people that shouldn’t be sent to prison at all are those now being sent there for minor crimes. Many of those people get their lives ruined there.

[Goodheart]

11. There are a lot of Chauvin's in Louisiana

Went to school with several of them. He defiles a nice Cajun name.

[GReedDiamond]

12. Sad...worthy of the VERY TINY violin...

[StarfishSaver]

13. I don't condone prison violence against anyone

But it's interesting that Chauvin now seems to be getting a sense of the terror Black men feel when encountering cops like him.

[sheshe2]

22. Nor do I...

However let me rewrite this.

Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin will be an “instant target” and will face efforts by other inmates to “kill him,” a current inmate and former prison warden both warned in advance of the convicted murderer’s scheduled sentencing this Friday, June 25.

Black residents of Minneapolis will be an "instant target" and will face the efforts of police officers to "kill them".

You reap what you sow. I don't want him murdered anymore than I wanted to watch the 9 plus minutes of him kneeling on George Floyd's neck and drained the life out him. He knew what he was doing. The expression on his face was blank. No emotion, just a cold, brutal murderer.

[spooky3]

14. Chauvin should have thought about that before he abused and murdered suspects. Nt

[Deuxcents]

16. Probably n maybe

Who knows?

[Demobrat]

17. He wasn't sentenced to death

so he shouldn’t be killed in prison regardless of who does it.

Permanent solitary confinement is a kind of death anyway.

[TheAnnoyedAgnostic]

18. Racist POS Murderer that Chauvin is

The fact the prison violence is expected(not just towards him ofc) really speaks to how inhuman we prisons are.

[Treefrog]

41. And the fact that so many cheer it on speaks volumes also.

[Elessar Zappa]

42. Most replies here aren't cheering it on.

Just a couple. Not caring what happens to him vs. cheering it on are entirely different.

[Treefrog]

68. I've seen posts cheering it on anytime there's a prison thread about the insurrectionists.

Even a duer who has related their experience with abuse in jail posted that they hoped one of the insurrectionists would be beaten in prison.

You’ve missed all those posts about prison rape? Consider yourself fortunate.

[USALiberal]

54. Yes, and many DUers love it! Nt

[Dan]

59. +1

[Wingus Dingus]

19. Insert sad trombone noise here.

[2naSalit]

23. I don't condone violence in prisons...

But I do think he should know what it's like to realize how cheap his life is to a certain group, always looking over his shoulder.

[wellst0nev0ter]

25. So it's either gen pop or solitary?

I wouldn't wanna be that guy.

[walkingman]

26. I hope he lives in misery for his remaining days.

[Jim G.]

27. Hopefully They Can Keep Him Protected

And I hope he has a long, long time in administrative segregation to think about what he's done. He's going to fear for his safety as long as he's in prison & he is going to be in danger any time they move him from one place to another. He may even join a white supremacist gang for protection. I'm sure he gets a disgusting amount of fan mail from those kind of people. If he does live long enough to serve out a (hopefully) lengthy sentence relatively unscathed it's not going to bother me much if it wasn't too comfortable for him.

[Withywindle]

39. Yeah, there are white supremacist gangs in prison too

He'll be celebrated as a hero by them.

I don't applaud prison violence, but he could very easily have avoided this situation by just not sadistically murdering anyone. Isn't that what people say to the hundreds of thousands of Black people who are in prison for nonviolent drug charges and shit?

I do have compassion fatigue. I wore out my compassion on the victims of police brutality and sadly, I have none left for the perps.

[sarisataka]

30. And there it is /nt

[PrinceHakeem]

29. Protective custody. Nothing ever happens to dirty cops in jail. They're well protected

At tax payers expense.

[Mr.Bill]

35. The reality is that's what will happen.

When he was in jail before the trial, I read that the authorities running the jail actually set a policy that any guards that had contact with him would be white.

But let's just be clear that if George Floyd had lived and was serving time in jail, Chauvin would be very happy with anything bad that happened to Mr. Floyd.

[Withywindle]

40. +1

I can't imagine anything like that level of protection extended to a Black inmate, regardless of what they were there for. The carceral system is ridiculously skewed to coddle white prisoners.

[PrinceHakeem]

67. To be fair, Eric Holder(the guy that shot Nipsey Hussle) is in isolation

In LA, if a gang as big as the rollin 60s want you dead, you're going to be killed if you're not protected. Prison is a horrible place filled with predators, but it's a reason child molesters and ex cops live to see their parole date. It's because they're all in protective custody. And never cross paths with people in general population. Chauvin being an ex cop will no doubt get preferential treatment from guards. He wont have his freedom, but I guarantee he'll be treated well in their.

[Progressive Jones]

38. Some States have laws covering that. A convicted murderer cop from Chicago

was sent to Connecticut to do his time, for his protection. He wouldn't have been safe in the IL prison system. He was accidentally placed in general population when he arrived in CT, and he took a beating. Ooopsie!

[struggle4progress]

31. I'll go on record as opposing extra-judicial executions

[sarisataka]

32. I get that prison violence is cool

For many people but why should inmates get all of the pleasure of handing out extra judicial punishment?

If we are going to accept mob justice, why not instead announce that he will be dropped off at George Floyd Square at a given date and time? Let it be known that police will not return to pick him up for nine minutes or so. The community can administer whatever justice they see as fitting...

[Elessar Zappa]

45. Most people aren't condoning it.

Posts where people say they have no sympathy is quite different for advocating for bad conditions. For instance, I have no sympathy when a child killer gets the death penalty. That doesn’t change the fact that I’m anti-death penalty.

[USALiberal]

55. No, makes no sense! Nt

[sarisataka]

62. Explicit vs implicit

Whether the person in question is throwing a party or merely giving a shrug, knowing full well what is going to happen to an inmate in prison it is condoning the result.

We say prison should be for rehabilitation of all criminals except those who never can safely be returned for society. Those should be humanely incarcerated for life. Yet clearly many people are satisfied with a system that administers brutal punishment- at least to those we do not like.

I used to have a similar opinion on the death penalty. However when having a discussion years ago I was forced to realize that when I stated "I am against the death penalty but..." I was not really against the death penalty. There are criminals who are a real challenge however since my realization, I put a period after the word penalty.

[roamer65]

34. It would save the Minnesota taxpayers money.

Just as it did with Dahmer when he bit the dust in prison.

Not advocating it, but what I say is true.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

36. Well, shit.

There goes the one second I cared about what happens to this murdering bastard.

[Withywindle]

37. I guess the question would be, why can't we protect people in prison?

They are, after all, about the most heavily policed spaces in the country. Certainly the spaces where all inmates are subject to the most constant control.

Gosh, it's almost like cops and prisons are actually absolute shit at protecting anyone. Even their own, when they've fallen from grace.

[Klaralven]

47. I've never understood why prisoners are out of their cells except for brief supervised periods

[Dan]

60. Cost....

Prisons cost money to properly provide security, etc.

Rehabilitation in prison cost money.

Provide job (good) training and quality education cost money (and local economies/communities don't like the competition).

Providing space to ensure property custody and control cost money.

Hiring quality staff and maintaining their safety in providing custody and control cost money.

Preventing the formation of predatory gangs and ensuring the growth of prison gangs cost money, time, resources and adequate policies combined with the willingness to enforce those policies, cost money.

Prisons are reflections of society... and there are more forces working to ensure failure than there are toward success.

If you're going to prison, be best if you were rich, white, well-educated, connected and old. Trump will enjoy a stay in prison and will even interrupt his golf game.

[panader0]

43. We know Derek Chauvin killed George Floyd, but what makes it more heinous to me

was his calm demeanor. The MFer had his hand in his pocket, non-chalantly kneeling while
a man begged for his life. Beyond despicable.

[Deminpenn]

48. Look more closely at the picture

Thought the same at first, but actually his hand is in a half first resting on his thigh. It looks like his hand is in his pocket because he's wearing a short black glove on his hand placed against his black trousers.

[GaYellowDawg]

46. Trying to muster sympathy...

Nope, that's a lie. I'm not even trying. If he gets killed in jail, then that's one less racist asshole that tax dollars are keeping alive.

[HAB911]

49. thoughts and prayers

[-misanthroptimist]

51. He should go to prison for the maximum the law allows

He should be kept safe there, too. We have a responsibility to ourselves to make sure he's safe -it's not about him specifically.

[Bettie]

56. Boo Hoo

Somehow, I can't find a whole lot of sympathy for him.

Did he ever even admit that what he did was wrong? I don't recall seeing that.

ETA: I don't wish death or violence upon him, I simply don't have sympathy for his fear. If he needs to spend his life in solitary to be safe, fine, he can do that.

I don't even have hope that he'll reflect on the choices he made to bring him to this point, because he will likely to go his grave declaring and believing that he was 100% in the right.

[Johnny2X2X]

61. He hasn't done that yet

The police have support from the minute they commit a crime, that support tells them do not admit an ounce of guilt. But usually at sentencing there is some contrition and expression of regret. Let's see what he says Friday.

[Mr.Bill]

66. I've never heard a cop admit they were wrong. Never.

Ask any cop if they've ever arrested anyone who was innocent. They will tell you everyone they ever arrested was guilty.

[Cinnamonspice]

64. They can keep him out of the general population.

I do think cops, elderly people, those with severe illness and disabilities should be kept from the general prison population.

Yes, he deserves to die, but we know that won't be the sentence. I've been saying that since George Floyd wasn't sentenced to death for his crimes that nobody had a right to kill him. Same with Chauvin. It's about human rights, even for those who denied it to others.