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applegrove

(118,665 posts)
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 03:47 AM Jun 2021

A multi-story building near Miami has partially collapsed, authorities say

A multi-story building near Miami has partially collapsed, authorities say

By Joe Sutton, CNN

Updated 3:37 AM ET, Thu June 24, 2021

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/us/building-collapse-miami-thursday/index.html

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(CNN)Authorities in Miami Beach, Florida, responded to a "partial building collapse" early Thursday morning, the Miami-Dade Fire Rescue said.

"#MDFR is on scene of a partial building collapse near 88 Street & Collins Avenue." the agency said in a tweet.

In a separate press release, it said more than 80 rescue units were at the location, including Technical Rescue Teams, with assistance from municipal fire departments.

CNN has reached out to Miami Beach Fire Rescue as well as the Miami Beach Mayor's office.

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A multi-story building near Miami has partially collapsed, authorities say (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2021 OP
Pictures. A high rise residential building. IcyPeas Jun 2021 #1
Live coverage malaise Jun 2021 #15
CNN has live coverage malaise Jun 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jun 2021 #21
Video of the collapse Amishman Jun 2021 #25
Wow Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #26
geez, when you see this it shows just how much of the building collapsed. IcyPeas Jun 2021 #28
Construction defect, or foundational erosion.. denbot Jun 2021 #2
Built forty years ago... regnaD kciN Jun 2021 #5
building stood for 40 years Demovictory9 Jun 2021 #7
Or gas explosion? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2021 #9
My thought would be lack of maintenance Amishman Jun 2021 #24
Another pic IcyPeas Jun 2021 #3
This was also breaking news on MSNBC TV Rhiannon12866 Jun 2021 #4
pre and post collapse pics Demovictory9 Jun 2021 #6
1 dead, 8 injured in Miami condo collapse a block from Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner's home, report malaise Jun 2021 #8
Hopefully they will find survivors. Vibes to the victims and their loved ones. applegrove Jun 2021 #10
I am watching Local 10 now that the sun is up malaise Jun 2021 #13
You can add this to your OP - Local 10 live coverage malaise Jun 2021 #16
... This is not the first time Collins Avenue in Miami Beach has seen a building collapse. struggle4progress Jun 2021 #11
... Miami Beach consists of a long, low barrier island accompanied by a scattering struggle4progress Jun 2021 #12
There was roof work going on here malaise Jun 2021 #14
Picture/video in the daylight: IcyPeas Jun 2021 #17
Jesus Christ vercetti2021 Jun 2021 #18
Fire department has brought in cadaver dogs superpatriotman Jun 2021 #19
There is so much multiple camera footage. ancianita Jun 2021 #22
More shocking daylight views from Miami Herald... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2021 #23
99 people unaccounted for malaise Jun 2021 #29
How terrifying! smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #27

Response to IcyPeas (Reply #1)

denbot

(9,899 posts)
2. Construction defect, or foundational erosion..
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 03:59 AM
Jun 2021

OMG.. A lot of buildings in that area seemed like modern Art Deco when my wife and I passed through once. It seems odd buildings like that would collapse.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
5. Built forty years ago...
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 04:27 AM
Jun 2021

...so it should have been designed to reasonably-modern construction codes.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
24. My thought would be lack of maintenance
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:13 AM
Jun 2021

It has been reported that they were doing roof work on the building.

Looking at aerial photos the roof was in extremely poor shape. I imagine maintenance was neglected for a while.

Construction appears to have been reinforced concrete. I can see a scenario where 'normal' cracking of concrete allows moisture intrusion to reach the rebar, possibly some salt from the nearby ocean as well. rebar corrodes. rusting iron expands, which would crack the surrounding concrete further. The additional cracking allows salt/moisture to reach new rebar - which rusts, expands, and cracks more concrete. This dominos and you end up with large areas with 'rotten' concrete and rebar.

Proper inspection and maintenance would seal these cracks and stop moisture intrusion before this can occur.

Take this scenario of degraded structural integrity and add to it the modest added load of the equipment and roofing materials for the current work.

Rhiannon12866

(205,405 posts)
4. This was also breaking news on MSNBC TV
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 04:22 AM
Jun 2021

They said that they'll be back with updates "throughout the morning."

Rescuers rush to partial building collapse in Miami Beach

More than 80 fire rescue units were involved in the response, officials said.

Authorities in Miami Beach, Florida were responding to a partial building collapse early Thursday.

Miami-Dade Fire Rescue said it was on the scene of the incident near 88th Street and Collins Avenue in the Surfside neighborhood.

More than 80 fire rescue units were involved in the response, including Technical Rescue Teams, fire officials said.

Municipal fire departments and Miami Beach police were also assisting.



NBC Miami reported that footage from the scene showed a large section of a multi-story building collapsed into a pile of rubble.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rescuers-rush-partial-building-collapse-miami-beach-n1272216

malaise

(269,011 posts)
13. I am watching Local 10 now that the sun is up
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 06:40 AM
Jun 2021

You have to see it to believe it - the collapse on the South Tower is from the penthouse to the ground - one third of the entire structure.
This will be bad and I am not sure more of the building won't collapse. Hard to watch.
A man is saying at least 50 apartments are gone and if these owners/tenants aren't snowbirds then there will be many more fatalities.

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
11. ... This is not the first time Collins Avenue in Miami Beach has seen a building collapse.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 06:19 AM
Jun 2021

In 2018, CNN reported that an empty 13-story building at 5775 Collins Avenue due for demolition collapsed at an unscheduled time, critically injuring one person ...

Miami condo collapse
Cheryl Teh and Mia Jankowicz
https://www.insider.com/part-of-miami-condo-block-from-ivanka-jared-caved-in-2021-6

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
12. ... Miami Beach consists of a long, low barrier island accompanied by a scattering
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 06:28 AM
Jun 2021

of manmade islets. It’s one of the lowest-lying municipalities in the country, and its residents are leading the way into the world’s wetter future. Along the island’s low western side bordering Biscayne Bay, people have come to dread full-moon high tides, when salt water seeps into storm-drain outlets and the porous limestone that provides the island’s foundation, forcing water up and out into the streets and sidewalks and threatening buildings and infrastructure ...
A Rising Tide
Stan Cox, Paul Cox
November 8, 2015

Full Moon: Jun 24, 2021 at 2:39 pm

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
18. Jesus Christ
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 07:17 AM
Jun 2021

Was that place not maintained very well? Did a sinkhole open up? I mean it's just like a lot of possibilities here that it collapsed from something

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
22. There is so much multiple camera footage.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 07:56 AM
Jun 2021

So much on Twitter by @MarioLeb79.

Hundreds of rescue vehicles.

Waiting for the investigation results.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
23. More shocking daylight views from Miami Herald...
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 08:16 AM
Jun 2021

Credits: A portion of Champlain Towers South Condo in Surfside collapsed early Thursday morning. Miami-Dade Fire Rescue is combing through the rubble for survivors and victims. David Santiago dsantiago@miamiherald.com



A portion of Champlain Towers South Condo, in Surfside, collapsed early Thursday morning. Miami-Dade search and rescue is combing through the rubble for victims and survivors. Miami-Dade Fire Rescue


From: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article252324218.html

Just beginning to see interesting stories from the area in this article and other local news sources.

(snip)
Adriana Chi waited outside Jackson’s Ryder Trauma Center shortly before 7 on Thursday morning, worried about two relatives inside and another she can’t locate.

She said her brother, sister-and-law and teenage niece live in a ninth-floor unit there. She was able to speak to her niece ahead of her emergency surgery at Ryder. She said the 16-year-old recalled being awoken by her mother to a shaking building, then had the sensation of the floor giving way.

“She felt the building shake,” said Chi, a nurse practitioner. “Then everything collapsed.”


Local TV coverage (one of many): https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/1-dead-massive-search-and-rescue-effort-after-partial-collapse-of-condo-building-in-surfside/2479570/

KY........
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
27. How terrifying!
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:38 AM
Jun 2021

It's so strange that a building would just collapse like that out of the blue.

I hope they find survivors.

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