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riversedge

(70,223 posts)
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 07:45 AM Jun 2021

Jesse Jackson, William Barber arrested protesting filibuster and Manchin



Jesse Jackson, William Barber arrested protesting filibuster and Manchin
‘Manchin, don’t you let sin block the salvation of this democracy and its soul,’ Barber said.



https://religionnews.com/2021/06/23/jesse-jackson-william-barber-arrested-protesting-filibuster-and-manchin/





WASHINGTON (RNS) — The Rev. Jesse Jackson and Poor People’s Campaign co-chair the Rev. William Barber II were among several civil rights and religious activists arrested at a protest outside the U.S. Senate on Wednesday (June 23), where demonstrators demanded West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin and other lawmakers abolish the filibuster and pass voting rights legislation.

Shortly before his arrest for blocking the street, Barber stood in the middle of Constitution Avenue as hundreds of demonstrators marched behind him along the sidewalk outside the Hart Senate Office Building. As police began to encircle Barber and others huddled behind a banner that read “Manchin, stop hurting West Virginia: Stop the filibuster,” the pastor explained he was willing to be arrested to protect voting rights.

“It took this to win it, it’s going to take this to keep it,” Barber said.

Jackson, nearby, signaled his own readiness to be detained earlier in the day, saying “we come not as an insurrection group, but as a resurrection group” and “today we must fill up the jails,” before adding “if you call yourself a child of God, you oughta act like it sometimes.”................................



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The Rev. Jesse Jackson, right, was arrested alongside the Rev. William Barber II during the protest on June 23, 2021, outside the Hart Senate Building. RNS photo by Jack Jenkins
June 23, 2021

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Jesse Jackson, William Barber arrested protesting filibuster and Manchin (Original Post) riversedge Jun 2021 OP
Sin? Loki Liesmith Jun 2021 #1
It's a sin to repress civil rights. The filibuster is a tool of repression. Supporting it is a sin lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #9
Is it tho? Loki Liesmith Jun 2021 #13
I'm no theologist (I'm not a Theist). But I like to think I have a basic grasp of morality. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #14
What? They Didn't Just Let Them Into The Capitol? n/t wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #2
Right? New Breed Leader Jun 2021 #3
Tourism with an arrest WA-03 Democrat Jun 2021 #4
What did this protest accomplish? brooklynite Jun 2021 #5
Some folk asked that same question on the first (and 10th and 200th) day of the Montmery Bus Boycott StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #7
The flaw in your argument is framing the filibuster as a "wrong"... brooklynite Jun 2021 #8
No flaw at all StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #11
MY point is to emphasize practical political reality... brooklynite Jun 2021 #16
WV voters already support voting rights. In the 60's Protests weren't going to sway Dixiecrats Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #18
Whatever StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #19
K&R G_j Jun 2021 #6
Rev Wm Barber is NOT in that photo. mnhtnbb Jun 2021 #10
He may be an aide to Rev. Jackson StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #12
It may be his son Jonathan Beringia Jun 2021 #15
Yes, you're right StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #20
This is going to be a Summer of Good Trouble. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #17
Republicans could have ended the filibuster at any point from BGBD Jun 2021 #21

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
9. It's a sin to repress civil rights. The filibuster is a tool of repression. Supporting it is a sin
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:55 AM
Jun 2021

I hope that helps.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
13. Is it tho?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:17 AM
Jun 2021

Sin has a very specific theological meaning. It could be bad. It could be wrong, but still not sin. I don’t know that it is a sin in most frameworks.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. I'm no theologist (I'm not a Theist). But I like to think I have a basic grasp of morality.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:19 AM
Jun 2021

If a respected preacher calls it a sin, and it looks like a sin, I'll go with that.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. Some folk asked that same question on the first (and 10th and 200th) day of the Montmery Bus Boycott
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 08:59 AM
Jun 2021

And first and 1000th day of anti-apartheid protests. And on the first day of many other protests that eventually helped to right a wrong.

Protests rarely accomplish their ultimate goal immediately in real time. Protests have a cumulative, not an instantaneous, effect.

But as Rev. Barber and Rev. Jackson work toward their goal, they've brought more attention to it, so they did accomplish something in the short-term, didn't they?

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
8. The flaw in your argument is framing the filibuster as a "wrong"...
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:44 AM
Jun 2021

Its a procedural rule. And unlike the bus boycott and apartheid, there aren't people directly affected by it.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
11. No flaw at all
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:09 AM
Jun 2021

You asked what this protest accomplished. I explained to you that protests don't have instantaneous results.

FYI - Both the boycott and anti-apartheid protests were about changing policies and laws that resulted in "wrongs," just as protesting the filibuster is about changing a rule that results in wrongs.

People also protested to force passage of the 1957 and 1965 Voting Rights Act and 1964 Voting Rights Act - which were held up by a filibuster that had to be overcome.

My point stands. The question is, what is YOUR point in trying to dismiss Rev
Barber's and Rev. Jackson's civil disobedience as ineffective?

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
16. MY point is to emphasize practical political reality...
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:24 AM
Jun 2021

You achieve change by convincing elected elected officials of the benefits of a policy change or the political risks of not changing them. Left wing political activists like Jackson and Barber are not the voices that are going to swing Manchin or WV voters.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,615 posts)
18. WV voters already support voting rights. In the 60's Protests weren't going to sway Dixiecrats
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:35 AM
Jun 2021

But it was still essential to speak out, not remain silent about injustice.

mnhtnbb

(31,389 posts)
10. Rev Wm Barber is NOT in that photo.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:00 AM
Jun 2021

Here is a photo showing him, on the right, leaning on his cane.

Can someone identify the gentleman in the light suit with Jackson in the photo above?

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
15. It may be his son Jonathan
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:22 AM
Jun 2021

Shortly thereafter, police led Barber and a dozen other demonstrators away — including Jackson, 79, who was assisted by his son and another demonstrator.





https://www.chicagonow.com/six-brown-chicks-media/2016/04/jonathan-jackson-reveals-5-truths-about-marriage/
 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
21. Republicans could have ended the filibuster at any point from
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:02 AM
Jun 2021

2015 to 2021.....I don't recall Jessee Jackson or anyone else protesting for them to do that.

If the filibuster is a tool of white supremacy or a sin as they said then it must have been during those years as well. Why didn't they demand that Repiblicans kill it when they had the Senate?

Would anyone here have wanted that to happen in those years? If not then you probably shouldn't be asking for it now either.

If anyone thinks we can get rid of the filibuster and that we'll never lose power again, then I have some magic beans to sell you.

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