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Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:15 AM Jun 2021

First person receives sentencing in Jan. 6 attack on U.S. Capitol

A grandmother from Indiana who participated in the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, was sentenced Wednesday to three years of probation for her involvement in the riot, ABC News reports.

Morgan-Lloyd posted on Facebook after the attack that it was the "best ... day ever," per ABC News.


I am so disappointed in this sentencing. Maybe I should not be, but I am.

https://news.yahoo.com/first-person-receives-sentencing-jan-221913258.html

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First person receives sentencing in Jan. 6 attack on U.S. Capitol (Original Post) Ferrets are Cool Jun 2021 OP
You can expect many sentences of probation over January 6th cases. MineralMan Jun 2021 #1
Read Empty Wheel on this. There is DU thread on it. empedocles Jun 2021 #2
Good case imo. empedocles Jun 2021 #5
They should go after the leaders... kentuck Jun 2021 #3
A patient gangster style prosecution methinks. Work up from the bottom. empedocles Jun 2021 #6
being a grandmother, one should know better than to attack the capitol. bottomofthehill Jun 2021 #8
at least call her what she is The Insurrectionist Grandmother who should have known better. bottomofthehill Jun 2021 #9
IKR? nt Ferrets are Cool Jun 2021 #11
Go to Marcy Wheeler's emptwheel blog for a clear legal context for this sentencing decision Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #4
Thank You, Dr. Marcy Wheeler wyn borkins Jun 2021 #7
Participated in an armed insurrection bottomofthehill Jun 2021 #10
All I have to say is that some of you are way more forgiving than I am with a known Ferrets are Cool Jun 2021 #12
I Want To Agree ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #13

MineralMan

(146,316 posts)
1. You can expect many sentences of probation over January 6th cases.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:19 AM
Jun 2021

The key is what the terms of that probation are. Violation of probation terms can send you to prison. Sensible people take such terms seriously, to avoid that consequence. While we would all like to see prison sentences, most courts prefer to use probation for convicted people who have no prior convictions. That's pretty standard.





empedocles

(15,751 posts)
2. Read Empty Wheel on this. There is DU thread on it.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:21 AM
Jun 2021

My take is this soft sentence, with cooperation/probation, is the feds have put out great bait for potential flipppers.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
5. Good case imo.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:24 AM
Jun 2021

5 days ago Marcy Wheeler predicted Ann Morgan-Floyd would get a light sentence, for a good reason.
Actually, Wheeler listed multiple reasons, but I think one was key: Morgan-Lloyd's cooperation.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/06/18/the-model-maga-tourist-anna-morgan-lloyd-and-evidence-collection/

COOPERATION WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. A patient gangster style prosecution methinks. Work up from the bottom.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:27 AM
Jun 2021

I'd love to see traitortrump behind bars right now. However, such an effort now would be more likely to fail.

bottomofthehill

(8,330 posts)
8. being a grandmother, one should know better than to attack the capitol.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:06 PM
Jun 2021

by her admission she was one of the first 50 people in the building, that was no stroll in the park. she had to have been told MANY times that this was an illegal activity, she did not leave, she continued to participate and then brag about it posting her attack on the Capitol. When facing jail time, she found religion. fuck her....she deserves time

Fiendish Thingy

(15,617 posts)
4. Go to Marcy Wheeler's emptwheel blog for a clear legal context for this sentencing decision
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:24 AM
Jun 2021

She was nonviolent, with no stated intentions to stop certification or overthrow the government, plead guilty, and provided access to her social media and photos of January 6.

IIRC, she was only charged with misdemeanor trespass, so three years probation is probably an above average sentence.

wyn borkins

(1,109 posts)
7. Thank You, Dr. Marcy Wheeler
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:34 AM
Jun 2021

I have read the comments herein and the details presented by Dr. Marcy Wheeler and (if I were the judge...which I am clearly NOT) I would have sentenced (the perpetrator) Ann Morgan-Floyd to no less than one year in a federal prison in addition to the sentence she actually received.

bottomofthehill

(8,330 posts)
10. Participated in an armed insurrection
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:29 PM
Jun 2021

poster it was the " BEST DAY EVER" went to get a gun permit the week after the armed insurrection, but was actually a book report doing poor grandmother. I am sure the gun permit was to help keep the peace at her next armed uprising.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
12. All I have to say is that some of you are way more forgiving than I am with a known
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 03:55 PM
Jun 2021

insurrectionist. Even if for a short period of time, she should be put behind bars for being a part of an insurrection and then bragging about it as the best day of her life. She got off easy IMO....and probably bragging about it now.

ProfessorGAC

(65,044 posts)
13. I Want To Agree
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 06:03 PM
Jun 2021

But, I can't.
She pled guilty & this was a misdemeanor.
Accept the plea deal and reserve resources for the felons, the violent & those that conspired to commit sedition.
She's small potatoes. They should treat her accordingly.
If we start seeing pretend warriors, flagpole wielding cop beaters, and pepper sprayers getting off easy, I'll be totally on board with you.

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