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A video of the Surfside building collapse has surfaced, taken from a few blocks away (Twitter) (Original Post) zuul Jun 2021 OP
OMG! I saw that in Cairo after their worst earthquake in 1992... but they had few if any hlthe2b Jun 2021 #1
51 people are still unaccounted for. zuul Jun 2021 #2
I hope that most were traveling to sightsee or visit relatives. Blue_true Jun 2021 #22
Possible Higher water levels damage foundation?? USALiberal Jun 2021 #3
my thought also mopinko Jun 2021 #4
Was wondering about that, too. highplainsdem Jun 2021 #6
Can't be! Climate change is a hoax! BlueWavePsych Jun 2021 #12
Shows that building 7 during 9/11 falling with no explosives can certanly happen Quixote1818 Jun 2021 #5
Many of them will instead argue... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #7
Yep, you're 100% correct. That is exactly what will happen. nt Quixote1818 Jun 2021 #8
Guess they should have followed those, pesky, building regulations. Does Florida have any? ShazamIam Jun 2021 #9
I can imagine Andrew54125 Jun 2021 #10
I hope death came quick to those inside. NCDem47 Jun 2021 #11
How are only 51 people unaccounted for? Dozens of residences were destroyed in seconds. LonePirate Jun 2021 #13
I feel the same way--this is nuts, that a tall building can just pancake Wingus Dingus Jun 2021 #14
mostly single or two people residences? Demovictory9 Jun 2021 #15
Hopefully not many rented out to entire families Wingus Dingus Jun 2021 #16
There are penthouses dalton99a Jun 2021 #17
Wow, this sounds like a luxury building. ShazzieB Jun 2021 #18
If you look on Zillow for ocean front condos on sale within a few blocks of that building womanofthehills Jun 2021 #21
I saw a number of pictures of the area around the collapsed sections. Blue_true Jun 2021 #24
It's at 99 now superpatriotman Jun 2021 #19
Some of the units were likely owned by snowbirds. Blue_true Jun 2021 #23
Oh, good point! ShazzieB Jun 2021 #26
I hope most were elsewhere. Blue_true Jun 2021 #27
Something to look for by way of explanation of how & why this happened Bucky Jun 2021 #20
It was built on spongy limestone. Blue_true Jun 2021 #25
If it's a sinkhole or climate change created disaster, wouldn't the other bldgs have similar or Yavin4 Jun 2021 #28

hlthe2b

(102,288 posts)
1. OMG! I saw that in Cairo after their worst earthquake in 1992... but they had few if any
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:19 AM
Jun 2021

building codes. This is just jaw-dropping.

zuul

(14,625 posts)
2. 51 people are still unaccounted for.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:20 AM
Jun 2021

Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D @RVAwonk

Update: Miami-Dade County Commissioner Sally Heyman tells @CNN that 51 people are still unaccounted for after the building collapse in Surfside, Florida.

9:32 AM · Jun 24, 2021


Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. I hope that most were traveling to sightsee or visit relatives.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:07 PM
Jun 2021

The way those sections came down survival of anyone who has not already been found don’t look good.

Quixote1818

(28,944 posts)
5. Shows that building 7 during 9/11 falling with no explosives can certanly happen
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:31 AM
Jun 2021

Should put that myth to rest but I am sure it won't.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
7. Many of them will instead argue...
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:43 AM
Jun 2021

... that the condo collapse was a demolition job too.

If they can ever find a resident who worked as a low-level coffee go-fer at local Clinton campaign headquarters in the past, they'll likely argue it was done to silence that person or whatever.

NCDem47

(2,249 posts)
11. I hope death came quick to those inside.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jun 2021

And they were asleep.

Horrible way to go being crushed.

God help their souls.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
13. How are only 51 people unaccounted for? Dozens of residences were destroyed in seconds.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:05 PM
Jun 2021

I’m also surprised this is not bigger news as this is a massive catastrophe.

Wingus Dingus

(8,054 posts)
14. I feel the same way--this is nuts, that a tall building can just pancake
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:09 PM
Jun 2021

into the ground at a moment's notice for no apparent reason. And only 51 not accounted-for I guess means these condos were maybe only occupied seasonally (winter).

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
17. There are penthouses
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:28 PM
Jun 2021
Address: 8777 Collins Avenue

Built: 1981

Stories: 12 (the building stands about 160 feet tall)

Residences: The oceanfront building contained 136 one-, two- and three-bedroom units, according to real estate records. Most are between 1,200 and 2,243 square feet.

Price: Most condos range between $295,000 (for a one-bedroom in March 2020) to $980,000 (for a three-bedroom a year later), real estate records indicate. A four-bedroom penthouse spanning more than 4,500 square feet sold for almost $2.9 million earlier this year.

Other amenities: In addition to housing, the building offered terraces, a club room, tennis courts, fitness center, sauna, private beach, heated swimming pool, underground parking deck and 24-hour security.

ShazzieB

(16,412 posts)
18. Wow, this sounds like a luxury building.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 05:40 PM
Jun 2021

So supposedly well built, not thrown together with thumb tacks and duct tape.

Makes you wonder how many other "upscale" buildings down there are living on borrowed time. ;

womanofthehills

(8,718 posts)
21. If you look on Zillow for ocean front condos on sale within a few blocks of that building
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:01 PM
Jun 2021

All go for between half million and almost 2 million with association fees of up to $1200 a month. Wealthy neighborhood.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. I saw a number of pictures of the area around the collapsed sections.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:16 PM
Jun 2021

It clearly looked like a very pricey area to me.

I live in Florida and have seen hotels going up. The construction is mostly heavy duty sheet metal type framing and some type of outside composite sheets on both sides of the framing. I would assume that the inside has plaster board attached to the inner composite sheet. Honestly, I would not feel comfortable living in such a structure.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. Some of the units were likely owned by snowbirds.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:13 PM
Jun 2021

They would have left Florida at the end of May. The units appear to be pricey. One New Jersey couple was supposed to be at their condo in one of the sections that fell, but an urgent business issue forced them to fly to New Jersey to address the issue. They were in New Jersey when their unit got demolished.

ShazzieB

(16,412 posts)
26. Oh, good point!
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:51 PM
Jun 2021

Living "up north," I'm not familiar with the typical schedule of snowbirds and their movements.

I hope most of the "unaccounted for" people turn out to have been elsewhere when this happened. 🤞

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
27. I hope most were elsewhere.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:54 PM
Jun 2021

There are some who had caretakers or relatives looking for them near the site, so those people likely were in the building when it fell.

Bucky

(54,020 posts)
20. Something to look for by way of explanation of how & why this happened
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 05:50 PM
Jun 2021

Would be the issue of ground subsidence or ground shifting underneath the building. The building is over 30 years old and Florida wetlands may have not been as supportive of the foundation over that time that we would like.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. It was built on spongy limestone.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:27 PM
Jun 2021

The contractor supposedly sank pilings deep into the ground, but one can ask whether each made it to bedrock (harder limestone). If some of the pilings did not reach bedrock, then over decades the spongy limestone could compress of just dissolve.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
28. If it's a sinkhole or climate change created disaster, wouldn't the other bldgs have similar or
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:10 PM
Jun 2021

even worse damage?

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