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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA video of the Surfside building collapse has surfaced, taken from a few blocks away (Twitter)
Horrifying.
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hlthe2b
(102,288 posts)building codes. This is just jaw-dropping.
zuul
(14,625 posts)Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D @RVAwonk
Update: Miami-Dade County Commissioner Sally Heyman tells @CNN that 51 people are still unaccounted for after the building collapse in Surfside, Florida.
9:32 AM · Jun 24, 2021
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The way those sections came down survival of anyone who has not already been found dont look good.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)mopinko
(70,120 posts)salt water and concrete is NOT a good combo.
highplainsdem
(48,997 posts)BlueWavePsych
(2,635 posts)Quixote1818
(28,944 posts)Should put that myth to rest but I am sure it won't.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)... that the condo collapse was a demolition job too.
If they can ever find a resident who worked as a low-level coffee go-fer at local Clinton campaign headquarters in the past, they'll likely argue it was done to silence that person or whatever.
Quixote1818
(28,944 posts)ShazamIam
(2,574 posts)Andrew54125
(9 posts)Sad news everywhere
NCDem47
(2,249 posts)And they were asleep.
Horrible way to go being crushed.
God help their souls.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)Im also surprised this is not bigger news as this is a massive catastrophe.
Wingus Dingus
(8,054 posts)into the ground at a moment's notice for no apparent reason. And only 51 not accounted-for I guess means these condos were maybe only occupied seasonally (winter).
Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)Wingus Dingus
(8,054 posts)on vacation.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)Built: 1981
Stories: 12 (the building stands about 160 feet tall)
Residences: The oceanfront building contained 136 one-, two- and three-bedroom units, according to real estate records. Most are between 1,200 and 2,243 square feet.
Price: Most condos range between $295,000 (for a one-bedroom in March 2020) to $980,000 (for a three-bedroom a year later), real estate records indicate. A four-bedroom penthouse spanning more than 4,500 square feet sold for almost $2.9 million earlier this year.
Other amenities: In addition to housing, the building offered terraces, a club room, tennis courts, fitness center, sauna, private beach, heated swimming pool, underground parking deck and 24-hour security.
ShazzieB
(16,412 posts)So supposedly well built, not thrown together with thumb tacks and duct tape.
Makes you wonder how many other "upscale" buildings down there are living on borrowed time. ;
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)All go for between half million and almost 2 million with association fees of up to $1200 a month. Wealthy neighborhood.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)It clearly looked like a very pricey area to me.
I live in Florida and have seen hotels going up. The construction is mostly heavy duty sheet metal type framing and some type of outside composite sheets on both sides of the framing. I would assume that the inside has plaster board attached to the inner composite sheet. Honestly, I would not feel comfortable living in such a structure.
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)Per local news at five oclock
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)They would have left Florida at the end of May. The units appear to be pricey. One New Jersey couple was supposed to be at their condo in one of the sections that fell, but an urgent business issue forced them to fly to New Jersey to address the issue. They were in New Jersey when their unit got demolished.
ShazzieB
(16,412 posts)Living "up north," I'm not familiar with the typical schedule of snowbirds and their movements.
I hope most of the "unaccounted for" people turn out to have been elsewhere when this happened. 🤞
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)There are some who had caretakers or relatives looking for them near the site, so those people likely were in the building when it fell.
Bucky
(54,020 posts)Would be the issue of ground subsidence or ground shifting underneath the building. The building is over 30 years old and Florida wetlands may have not been as supportive of the foundation over that time that we would like.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The contractor supposedly sank pilings deep into the ground, but one can ask whether each made it to bedrock (harder limestone). If some of the pilings did not reach bedrock, then over decades the spongy limestone could compress of just dissolve.
Yavin4
(35,441 posts)even worse damage?