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Nevilledog

(51,112 posts)
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:22 AM Jun 2021

Newsmax suggests CRT will induce kids to want to kill their fathers and marry their mothers



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Newsmax's Dick Morris suggests Critical Race Theory may "reinforce the Oedipal notion all kids have of wanting to kill their father and marry their mother"


6:57 AM · Jun 24, 2021
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Newsmax suggests CRT will induce kids to want to kill their fathers and marry their mothers (Original Post) Nevilledog Jun 2021 OP
What do these people smoke? dhol82 Jun 2021 #1
The knowledge they can shovel any kind of horseshit they want... JHB Jun 2021 #16
Are they taking about CRT or confusing it with Republican mandatory fap material, Oedipus Rex? TheBlackAdder Jun 2021 #20
It sounds like he recently recovered from a stroke. Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #46
Toesucker Dick Morris? EYESORE 9001 Jun 2021 #2
Right? Nevilledog Jun 2021 #3
He's an interesting kind of guy, Big Dog almost punched him out, Hillary saved him ... marble falls Jun 2021 #10
:) That's him. I remember, though, when he first appeared on talk shows. Hortensis Jun 2021 #19
DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER! IT WILL BE CHAOS! Aristus Jun 2021 #4
Father rapers and mother stabbers! Bayard Jun 2021 #5
You'll find them sitting on the group W bench. Arkansas Granny Jun 2021 #8
Not seeing how one has anything to do with the other Takket Jun 2021 #6
It doesn't nothing they say about CRT is accurate, nor is it in good faith. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #11
Wait, what? Did he get his info from an Onion headline? haele Jun 2021 #7
These are the same people who call Joe Biden a radical socialist. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #12
They decry Freud until they're ready to scare people. Haggard Celine Jun 2021 #9
I doubt as a women I wanted to marry my mother. LakeArenal Jun 2021 #13
Projecting again, Dick head? lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #14
Anti-Oedipus greenjar_01 Jun 2021 #15
WTF? smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #17
Wait...isn't that what the cultists do?? PortTack Jun 2021 #18
Newsmax is an insane asylum with the inmates in control. blm Jun 2021 #21
Today's Republicans... -misanthroptimist Jun 2021 #22
But can you use it as a floor wax, Dick? JHB Jun 2021 #23
Oedipus Rex/Oedipus Rex cbabe Jun 2021 #24
I don't know that one, but Tom Lehrer had a good version StatWoman Jun 2021 #26
yes, fun one! cbabe Jun 2021 #27
All kids... sarisataka Jun 2021 #25
Projection. That's just you, Dick. nt Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #28
"All kids," Dick? gratuitous Jun 2021 #29
.. roamer65 Jun 2021 #30
Psychoanalyst here. My professional opinion? He's full of s#!+. nolabear Jun 2021 #31
They need to put down the crack pipe and back away from the computer. Initech Jun 2021 #32
I think we learned a whole lot more about Dick Morris than anything else. marble falls Jun 2021 #33
These peopke. Iggo Jun 2021 #34
Just wait, CRT will be the new DTP and dem candidates will be made to run away from it at the loss uponit7771 Jun 2021 #35
What do you suggest? Mad_Machine76 Jun 2021 #38
The couple of reports that came out about down ballot losses says we should brand down ballots uponit7771 Jun 2021 #40
"A better and clearer message" Mad_Machine76 Jun 2021 #41
Yes, both reports and some of the polling does. Down ballot were the candidates weren't as uponit7771 Jun 2021 #42
Cats and dogs living together Mad_Machine76 Jun 2021 #36
I wish the media would spend as much time talking about climate change as they do about CRT. jalan48 Jun 2021 #37
For real Mad_Machine76 Jun 2021 #39
wasn't that Freud? demtenjeep Jun 2021 #43
This is The End, beautiful friend... BlueNProud Jun 2021 #44
Dick toe sucker Morris Historic NY Jun 2021 #45

JHB

(37,160 posts)
16. The knowledge they can shovel any kind of horseshit they want...
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jun 2021

...and Newsmax's audience will swallow it like it's chocolate and demand seconds.

Because they're Newsmax's audience.

One of the most satisfying smokes ever rolled.

Baitball Blogger

(46,723 posts)
46. It sounds like he recently recovered from a stroke.
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 08:20 AM
Jun 2021

Never expected him to take the extreme position. More reason why someone who believes in CRT should come out to explain their methodology and their objectives to counter all the bullshit that is circulating in the news.

marble falls

(57,099 posts)
10. He's an interesting kind of guy, Big Dog almost punched him out, Hillary saved him ...
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jun 2021

... On August 29, 1996, Morris resigned from the Clinton campaign after tabloid reports stated that he had been involved with a prostitute, Sherry Rowlands, as reported by The Washington Post. A New York tabloid newspaper, the Star, had obtained and published a set of photographs allegedly of Morris and the woman on a Washington, D.C., hotel balcony. News of the impending publication broke during the third day of the 1996 Democratic Convention. The Electronic Telegraph reported unverified claims that in order to impress Rowlands, Morris invited her to listen in on his conversations with President Clinton. It was reported that Rowlands worked for $200 an hour and that after he solicited her for sex, Morris gave Rowlands access to President Clinton's campaign speeches before they were delivered and also let her hear the President's voice during a telephone conservation.[20] According to Rowlands, Morris had a fondness for sucking toes.[21][22][23] It was also alleged he had an out-of-wedlock child from an affair with a Texas woman.[24]

Morris resigned on the same day that Bill Clinton spoke and accepted the nomination at the Democratic National Convention. In his resignation statement, he said that "while I served I sought to avoid the limelight because I did not want to become the message. Now, I resign so I will not become the issue."[25] In his response, President Clinton praised Morris as a "friend", and publicly thanked him for his years of service. Privately, several of Clinton's aides were furious that in his resignation statement Morris credited himself with helping the President "come back from being buried in a landslide" and that Morris ended by comparing himself to Robert F. Kennedy.[26]

Morris was featured on two consecutive covers of Time magazine. The September 2, 1996 issue, which was released before the prostitute story broke, featured Morris as "The Man Who Has Clinton's Ear".[7] The following week, the cover featured Morris and his wife, Eileen McGann, and the headline read "The Morris Mess: After the Fall".[26]

In his book Why Just Her, on his defence of the "Washington Madam", Debra Jeane Palfrey, Montgomery Blair Sibley wrote that Morris was a client of Palfrey's escort agency, and the first individual he planned to call in Palfrey's defence.[27]
Later work

In his 1997 book, Behind the Oval Office, Morris wrote that, following an argument in the Arkansas Governor's Mansion in May 1990, he strode toward the exit and was tackled by Clinton. In 2003, Morris further stated that Clinton cocked his arm back to throw a punch, but Hillary Clinton pulled her husband off Morris. In both versions of the story, she consoled Morris and apologized to him, stating that Bill behaved as such only with those he cared for most. According to Morris, she did this to keep him quiet about the incident. He says the incident was the reason for denying Bill Clinton's request to work on the 1992 campaign.[28]

Morris has become a vocal and regular critic of the Clintons since his departure, in particular Hillary Rodham Clinton and her bid for the presidency. Morris has written extensively about the Clintons (see below) and also contributed to Hillary: The Movie, a documentary about Rodham Clinton when she was still a 2008 Presidential candidate.[29] Later, after Bill Clinton's comments about the similarities between Barack Obama's popularity and that of presidential candidate Jesse Jackson in 1988, Morris put out an article on his blog that asserted that this was Clinton's way of injecting race into the political campaign.[30]


Morris is also related to Roy Cohn.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. :) That's him. I remember, though, when he first appeared on talk shows.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:53 AM
Jun 2021

His knowledge and intellect were extremely impressive, as was his ability to inform so people understood.

Another of many who found their true home on today's huge Dark Side after damaging respectable careers.
Seemingly previous standards of respectable institutions were only conformed to to get along. Sociopaths?

But, he's probably still as brilliant and knowledgeable as ever.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
4. DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER! IT WILL BE CHAOS!
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:28 AM
Jun 2021


They wouldn't keep dreaming this shit up unless they knew the rubes out in the provinces would keep believing it.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
11. It doesn't nothing they say about CRT is accurate, nor is it in good faith.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:38 AM
Jun 2021

They don't even understand what CRT is and they don't care.

To them it is simply a new tool to scare their White viewership.

haele

(12,659 posts)
7. Wait, what? Did he get his info from an Onion headline?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:34 AM
Jun 2021

What does Critical Race Theory have to do with the ancient Greek play Oedipus?
"Hey, let's just throw everything we think is deviant into a big outrage pot and force-feed our viewers like geese for Pate.

Haele

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
12. These are the same people who call Joe Biden a radical socialist.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:39 AM
Jun 2021

I think that is all that needs to be said about both, their intelligence, and their motives.

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
13. I doubt as a women I wanted to marry my mother.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:39 AM
Jun 2021

My dad scared the shit out of me (for no reason, really) until I was 40. I don’t think I wanted to marry him.

However, it turns out my dad and Mr Lake had many things in common.

Both smart and funny to begin with.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
17. WTF?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:52 AM
Jun 2021

They will just say anything now, no matter how ridiculous it is. The problem is that there are so many people who are stupid enough to take this seriously.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
23. But can you use it as a floor wax, Dick?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:56 AM
Jun 2021

Or maybe a dessert topping? Or a floor wax AND a dessert topping?

cbabe

(3,545 posts)
24. Oedipus Rex/Oedipus Rex
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 12:02 PM
Jun 2021

Killed his pa
And married his ma
They don't even do that
In Arkansas.

Distantly rembered song lyrics. Anyone know it?

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
25. All kids...
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 12:10 PM
Jun 2021

So does Mr. Morris have urges to kill his father and marry his mother?

Perhaps he should talk to a professional about that.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
29. "All kids," Dick?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:28 PM
Jun 2021

Why would daughters want to kill their fathers and marry their mothers? Have you notified the former guy to keep an eye on his daughters?

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
31. Psychoanalyst here. My professional opinion? He's full of s#!+.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:50 PM
Jun 2021

He knows not a thing about either CRT or Oedipal Theory.

So, Freud had some ideas that were half baked and his version of Oedipal theory was just that. We don’t ascribe to it, we don’t teach it (oh, maybe some very old school types do but they’re dying off).

What it eventually evolved into was a more coherent idea that very young infants live in a kind of dreamy state where cause and effect, boundaries between people, etc. are non-existent and they and “mother” are virtually the same thing. Cry and something magically appears. It’s blissful, and wonderful for developing trust, security, and what later becomes love.

“Father” (another person who’s not “mother”) disabused the infant of that notion over time. There’s someone else! Things can happen in more than one way and still be okay. It’s the beginning of imagination, patience, the need to learn, and all sorts of maturity at the early level. It frustrates at first and can create baby anger but it’s vitally important. That whole sexualizing of the process was a speculation by a man who had an enormous ego and thought he was utterly right. He was never disabused of that notion because he was the first one, but in a great parallel to the process, other analysts and neurologists and psychiatrists and pediatricians added to and refined the perception. And will continue to do so.

The only thing these people are is simple and smug in their simplicity. It would be sad if they didn’t get to spout off in so many ways to people who don’t know any better. This guy, though, he’s just a clown.

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
35. Just wait, CRT will be the new DTP and dem candidates will be made to run away from it at the loss
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:50 PM
Jun 2021

... of dem voters.

We need better messaging and to get out in front of their apparent bullshit

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
38. What do you suggest?
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:00 PM
Jun 2021

I think that a lot of times most Democrats (myself included) just recognize how absurd this stuff is that we really have no good idea of how to respond. For the record, I never agreed with "Defund The Police" because I get how that looks and sounds (or might) to most average people and that it was dangerously ripe for right-wing mischaracterization and spin. *I* understood what it meant but the only thing that most people were hearing was taking away money from the police and leaving people defenseless against crime. Of course, there weren't many actual Democrats advocating for it but got slapped with the label anyway. I'm curious about how big of a winner fighting against CRT is going to be for the Republicans. Most people have at least some knowledge and understanding that slavery, Jim Crow, etc. is part of our sordid national history and Republicans are basically attacking an educational/historical theory for pointing that out- and all of the ways those things continue to fuel inequality. They basically want to whitewash (literally) American history and try to pretend racism is over- even though they damn well know it's not.

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
40. The couple of reports that came out about down ballot losses says we should brand down ballots
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:09 PM
Jun 2021

... better and have a clearer message.

Here's a thread on the reports - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215556872

That's what we need now on CRT an clear message that we support getting rid of segregation and racism and the GQP supports it.

That would make them back down off of CRT quick fast; a hard position on it and then label them as the racist.

There's a post here were it was heat mapped and you can tell that's the new GQP boogyman.

on the subject of DTP

I supported the DTP sentiment too and KNEW it was just that but some people who think democrats who say fuck trump actually want to fuck trump cause they can't tell the difference.

It's crazy how well oiled the GQP message machine is, the one thing that throws salt into that machine is a hard hitting response and the truth about GQP

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
41. "A better and clearer message"
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jun 2021

That sounds sort of vague. Hopefully, the report goes into more detail than that.

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
42. Yes, both reports and some of the polling does. Down ballot were the candidates weren't as
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:19 PM
Jun 2021

... defined or did not have branding we suffered especially in places were PoC lived.

Places were the dem candidate was known we kicked butt save a couple who didn't define themselves on DTP early.

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