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Fr. Altman: You cannot be Catholic & a Democrat. Period (Original Post) Dawson Leery Jun 2021 OP
Liberal application of the "One True Scotsman" theory of philosophy... Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #1
Another could be, "You can't be a Catholic priest without being a pedophile or covering up others." TheBlackAdder Jun 2021 #53
That, at least, is rationally more probable... Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #56
You can't be Fr. Altman and be a decent human being. Period. Ocelot II Jun 2021 #2
Murderers and child rapists. roamer65 Jun 2021 #3
Guess what! Your congregation is leaving for that very reason..with more to come PortTack Jun 2021 #4
I know of numerous Catholic priests who have told me otherwise. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2021 #5
This motherfucker is going to raise $1M and run for office dalton99a Jun 2021 #6
He Will Find There Are Many Fewer Catholics, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2021 #7
Come say that in Boston "father" Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #8
If an Antichrist comes and persecutes people like him I am all IN. roamer65 Jun 2021 #9
This James Martin guy he hates sounds cool, people like him are 1 reason why I am NOT an atheist ck4829 Jun 2021 #10
ck, are you sure you posted this is the right thread? hedda_foil Jun 2021 #17
I am referring to 3:13 in the video in the OP ck4829 Jun 2021 #18
James Martin, a Jesuit musette_sf Jun 2021 #19
Fr Altman: Servant to the AntiChrist. blm Jun 2021 #11
THIS. roamer65 Jun 2021 #12
His bishop in Wisconsin is trying to have him removed from his parish Bucky Jun 2021 #39
There's always the Russian Orthodox Church for him if it doesn't work out with the Pope. hunter Jun 2021 #49
Good. Altman is EVIL. blm Jun 2021 #51
Remove the beam from your own eye, Altman. There's a lot of Scripture that applies to YOU... Hekate Jun 2021 #13
I read that message loud and clear decades ago. onecaliberal Jun 2021 #14
is this person familiar with the teachings of the founder of his church? niyad Jun 2021 #15
The teachings of Emperor Constantine? Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #32
The bishop in La Crosse Wisconsin has requested his resignation Bucky Jun 2021 #40
Good wryter2000 Jun 2021 #42
Apparently not n/t wryter2000 Jun 2021 #41
Wait - this guy is real?!?!?!??!?! (Rhetorical question - I just googled him) Siwsan Jun 2021 #16
Hah. If they kicked all the Democrats out of our parish there would hardly be anyone left. hunter Jun 2021 #20
Hmmm, is that why I have a very good friend who is a Ka-Dinh Oy Jun 2021 #21
I'm pretty sure wryter2000 Jun 2021 #31
That's kinda how I felt about it so I'm no longer a Catholic! 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2021 #22
A modern day Pharisee. Probatim Jun 2021 #23
Nope. They are the Sadducees DenaliDemocrat Jun 2021 #50
Thanks for the correction - it's been a long time since I graduated catholic high school. Probatim Jun 2021 #52
I stopped being Catholic mrsv Jun 2021 #24
I am SO Catholic DenaliDemocrat Jun 2021 #57
But you can abuse children malaise Jun 2021 #25
Maybe so, but more importantly, you can't be republican LT Barclay Jun 2021 #26
This Episcopalian says amen to that wryter2000 Jun 2021 #28
You can't even be a Republican and a republican Bucky Jun 2021 #35
He's a zealot. A fanatic. Lives in the ultimate bubble. Duncan Grant Jun 2021 #27
The type of priest shanti Jun 2021 #48
Fine by me OriginalGeek Jun 2021 #29
Do religious people ever read their scriptures? sanatanadharma Jun 2021 #30
Seek help....wowzer.... reminds me of Fr Patrick McKenna from Angels & Demons OnDoutside Jun 2021 #33
Any reasonable religious organization would toss him out on his unholy ass. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Jun 2021 #34
You also can't be a Republican and a republican Bucky Jun 2021 #36
We've got a Matthew 6:5-8 violation here Bucky Jun 2021 #37
Um. My household and most people at my church ColinC Jun 2021 #38
assholes like this kill me bottomofthehill Jun 2021 #43
Oh, and... wryter2000 Jun 2021 #44
Didn't we go all through that in 1960 when JFK ran for President? kskiska Jun 2021 #45
I went to catholic school from K to 12, so I only made it to around 1:30 and then ZZZZzzzzz iscooterliberally Jun 2021 #46
It wasn't that long ago that the rabid right was vehemently anti-Catholic. nt Binkie The Clown Jun 2021 #47
1 - he does not get to decide who is Catholic; treestar Jun 2021 #54
Just like Jesus used to say! Bristlecone Jun 2021 #55
Nazi dickhead. Mc Mike Jun 2021 #58

PortTack

(32,771 posts)
4. Guess what! Your congregation is leaving for that very reason..with more to come
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:10 PM
Jun 2021

Americans are sick and tired of your criminal priests and authoritarian crap that doesn’t fit with anything christian, moral or decent

Tommy Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
5. I know of numerous Catholic priests who have told me otherwise.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:10 PM
Jun 2021

And I'm pretty sure the Pope would back them up on that.

Have no idea who Father Altman is, but if I walk into a church and see him behind the altar, I'd walk straight back out.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
10. This James Martin guy he hates sounds cool, people like him are 1 reason why I am NOT an atheist
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:13 PM
Jun 2021

Gives me hope that religion can be a force for good.

Critical Race Theory

musette_sf

(10,202 posts)
19. James Martin, a Jesuit
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:26 PM
Jun 2021

and one of the good guys. He is much disliked by the Taliban Catholic types.

blm

(113,063 posts)
11. Fr Altman: Servant to the AntiChrist.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:14 PM
Jun 2021

Altman hates the teachings of Christ.

Altman loves GOP: Greed-Oppression-Perversion.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
39. His bishop in Wisconsin is trying to have him removed from his parish
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:21 PM
Jun 2021

Altman has hired a Canon lawyer to fight the request for removal which is his right under canon law. The issue will ultimately probably go to the Pope in Rome before he's forced from his seat. He's being very public about raising money, $600,000 so far.

Of course he's not really following his vows on obedience or humility at this point, but at least we know he's being "chased"

hunter

(38,315 posts)
49. There's always the Russian Orthodox Church for him if it doesn't work out with the Pope.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:49 PM
Jun 2021

Some of them hate liberal inclusive Western democracy as much as he does.

Hekate

(90,705 posts)
13. Remove the beam from your own eye, Altman. There's a lot of Scripture that applies to YOU...
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:16 PM
Jun 2021

Whited sepulchers. Millstones around necks. Judge not lest ye be judged. And so much more.

Blithering hypocrite. Cleanse your own house, why don’t you?

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
40. The bishop in La Crosse Wisconsin has requested his resignation
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:24 PM
Jun 2021

He's refused and is contesting the request in accord with Canon law. If the church deputies find that he failed to be obedient to the church's request, he would have to appeal it to Pope Francis in Rome.

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
42. Good
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:28 PM
Jun 2021

I don't think Francis will support him. I wonder if he has a parish and what they think of him.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
16. Wait - this guy is real?!?!?!??!?! (Rhetorical question - I just googled him)
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:22 PM
Jun 2021

But my first reaction was to think it was a clip from some strange television show.

And, if I may add, TAX THE CHURCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hunter

(38,315 posts)
20. Hah. If they kicked all the Democrats out of our parish there would hardly be anyone left.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:27 PM
Jun 2021

At Mass the apolitical homeless people would probably outnumber the Republicans.

Ka-Dinh Oy

(11,686 posts)
21. Hmmm, is that why I have a very good friend who is a
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:34 PM
Jun 2021

Die hard Catholic and would never vote for anything but Democrat?

His family are also die hard Catholics and would never vote for anything other than Democrat.

Believe it or not this is in one of the most red counties in SW Washington.

He talks about not loving people he has never met yet it teaches in the Bible we are to love ALL. What an ass.

I think it is time to start taxing churches. They have been a strong part of making laws. They are driving their religion into politics from the back seat but it still has an effect.

TAX THEM!!!

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
31. I'm pretty sure
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:59 PM
Jun 2021

this sort of crap puts his tax exemption in peril. Americans United has to be on top of this.

Probatim

(2,529 posts)
23. A modern day Pharisee.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jun 2021

There are far too many of them polluting the various religions and their myriad sects.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,476 posts)
50. Nope. They are the Sadducees
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 03:03 PM
Jun 2021

1) Wealthy

2) Concerned with the political

3) All about following the rules

4) not particularly religious in a supernatural aspect

Probatim

(2,529 posts)
52. Thanks for the correction - it's been a long time since I graduated catholic high school.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 03:10 PM
Jun 2021

I always attributed the term to religious hypocrites and self-righteous god-botherers.

At least I knew it wasn't Seraphim, Incubus, or Succubus...

mrsv

(209 posts)
24. I stopped being Catholic
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:47 PM
Jun 2021

When the Church started hiding pedophiles. Republicans can have the Church. Birds of a feather flock together

DenaliDemocrat

(1,476 posts)
57. I am SO Catholic
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:20 PM
Jun 2021

As far as what Jesus taught, but just like Jesus, I completely reject the hierarchy of the Church. All about the messages, completely reject the messengers and their rules

malaise

(269,022 posts)
25. But you can abuse children
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jun 2021

and become a rich corporation by enslaving human beings for centuries.

Eff off Altman - thankfully you're not a father

LT Barclay

(2,604 posts)
26. Maybe so, but more importantly, you can't be republican
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:51 PM
Jun 2021

And a Christian.
If someone claims they are, they either don't understand Christ or don't understand republicans.

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
28. This Episcopalian says amen to that
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jun 2021

The priest in the OP is sick. I wouldn't let him near my children. I don't know that he'd abuse them, but that sort of thinking would harm their moral development.

Duncan Grant

(8,264 posts)
27. He's a zealot. A fanatic. Lives in the ultimate bubble.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jun 2021

This is the type of priest who could commit atrocities to glorify god (see: Spain under Generalissimo Francisco Franco, 1939-1975).

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
29. Fine by me
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jun 2021

My step-father once told my aunt she couldn't be a christian and Democrat.

And that is the story of how my aunt never spoke to my stepfather again.

I don't have to worry about it as I'm atheist but I still love and talk to my aunt and uncle.

sanatanadharma

(3,707 posts)
30. Do religious people ever read their scriptures?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:59 PM
Jun 2021

Do religious people ever read their scriptures?

Catholicism belongs to the realm of God (render onto).
Political parties belong to the realm of Caesar.

Churches belong out-of-politics.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
37. We've got a Matthew 6:5-8 violation here
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:11 PM
Jun 2021
“When you pray, you shall not be as the hypocrites, for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men."

bottomofthehill

(8,332 posts)
43. assholes like this kill me
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:29 PM
Jun 2021

I self identify as an Irish Catholic Democrat from Boston. It is in my DNA, it is what I am. I believe the greatest political speech was delivered by Jesus Christ, the Sermon on the Mount. There are a lot of people who rip religion and catholic religion on this board, I have called the occasional Priest or two a kid toucher, and am much more fond of our current Pope than I was of the last who I referred to as Gods Rottweiler, but still think of myself as an Irish Catholic Democrat kid from Boston. Others are comfortable in their religion or non and that's good for you. Priests like this fucktard make it so difficult to self identify as Catholic. Parochial (home parish church) elementary school, Archdiocese High School, a Catholic College, I don't lock step agree with anyone in my life, not the party, not my family not my church. What I have learned in school and what I have learned in life make my who I am. This asshole is the classic fucktard who ruins our ability to feel good about ourselves.

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
45. Didn't we go all through that in 1960 when JFK ran for President?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:31 PM
Jun 2021

They tried to say he would take his orders from the Pope.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
54. 1 - he does not get to decide who is Catholic;
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 03:16 PM
Jun 2021

2 - how dare he start defending TFG then? I bet TFG has some views that contradict the RC church.
3 - he does not get to talk about politics. Biden believes in his religion but respects US rule of law (secular).

This guy needs to STFU.

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