AOC endorses Nina Turner for Congress

[brooklynite]

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Chris, Nina Turner is the real deal.

She has spent her entire career advocating for working people — on the Cleveland City Council, in the Ohio State Senate, and on Senator Bernie Sanders’ 2016 and 2020 presidential campaigns, serving as National Co-Chair in 2020.

I’m proud to have endorsed her to represent the people of Ohio’s 11th district in Congress.

This special election is heating up, and right now, powerful corporate interests are supporting Nina’s primary opponent. Like ours, her campaign is powered by the people — that means the only way we can win is with strong grassroots support.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

1. Nice.

Two strong women of color. Keep growing the squad.

[brooklynite]

2. I would have endorsed a Democrat, but what do I know?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

3. Good question

Weren’t you the one who smugly claim AOC would get crushed by Crowley?

[brooklynite]

6. Perhaps; does that have something to do with this message?

Last time I checked AOC WAS a Democrat and wasn’t trying to set up a third Party.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

16. Lol.

A+

Why Corporate Democrats Are Desperately Trying to Keep Nina Turner Out of Congress

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/06/24/why-corporate-democrats-are-desperately-trying-keep-nina-turner-out-congress

[msfiddlestix]

21. I sure ain't a Corporate Dem, but I'm not a fan of this individual. I would throw my support

Behind a true Democratic contender, rather than for Turner any day.

I'm hoping there is such a contender in the race.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

56. She's going to win.

Let the people of her district decide.

[Chili]

73. I am one of the people in her district

It would be painful to see such a person representing me. She is mean-spirited, vicious, and would do her best to divide the party and defy & criticize Biden on every issue.

[Doremus]

125. I am also one of the people in her district.

I would be proud to have her represent me in Congress. She was my state senator and I'll continue to vote for her each and every time she is on my ballot.

This party doesn't need sycophants. We need fighters, people who see the needs and fight to rectify them. We've had enough stern letters and capitulation. Time for action.

[Chili]

127. then you go right ahead and vote for her.

Time to start walking door to door to tell people exactly what will happen if she's elected.

[Doremus]

130. Oh believe me, I will. :)

She doesn't need me to canvas for her in my neighborhood though. I'm heading over to the west side next week.

[George II]

195. You'd be proud to have someone who said this represent you in Congress?

Nina Turner, assessing the choice of Biden against President Donald Trump in the November presidential election, told The Atlantic: “It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.’ It’s still shit.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

[George II]

165. That's the way it should be. But unfortunately, according to her own FEC filings, money is pouring..

....in to her campaign from anywhere but her state or district. That doesn't even include third party expenditures. This is outside money that is attempting to influence the OH-11 election and ultimately the candidate should she win.

As of her last filing, only 11% of Turner's itemized contributions have come from within Ohio.

On the other hand, 52% of Shontel Brown's contributions have come from within Ohio.

In addition, more than 90% of Shontel Brown's individual contributions are itemized - we know exactly where 90% of her individual contributions come from.

However, 66% of Turner's individual contributions are unitemized, we don't know where that came from. Only 34% are itemized.

[emulatorloo]

22. Wasn't Turner the one who called Biden a bowl of shit? And voted for Stein?

And apparently considered being Stein’s running mate?

AOC’s great, Turner not so much.

Of course AOC can endorse who ever she wants. As can you.

[Trueblue1968]

32. Wasn't Turner the one who LIED HER BUTT OFF ABOUT SEN/Sec of State Hillary Clinton

i won't forgive turner for her lying lies. nope, won't do it.

i don't like her at all.

[comradebillyboy]

33. Why yes,yes she is.

[PatSeg]

43. I'm sorry, I have to correct you on that one

She called Joe Biden HALF a bowl of shit!

[George II]

162. What's the relevance of that to this discussion?

[hlthe2b]

4. I agree with your sentiment on this....

[PatSeg]

7. Me too, this is disappointing

July 2020, Nina Turner on Joe Biden as Democratic nominee:

“It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing,” Turner said of the choice between voting for Biden and President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election. “It’s still sh*t.”

Some bells cannot be unrung.

[WA-03 Democrat]

10. Nina Turner

Is a bowl of shit. There I said and its true.

[PatSeg]

11. We need a "biting my tongue" smiley

I'm really trying to stay out of trouble, but with Nina Turner, it is really tough. Hey, I just let her speak for herself.

[Jedi Guy]

83. She's not a Democrat so feel free to cut loose.

The only reason she's running as a Democrat is because she has to in order to be on the ballot. She wasn't able to get her "People's Party" on the ballot in time, leaving her no choice but to hold her nose and call herself a Democrat. The moment she can jump ship, she will.

She's no ally of the Party, which is blatantly evident from her own statements about Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. I have nothing but contempt for Nina Turner.

[PatSeg]

100. I don't think Turner is an ally to anyone except herself

She should have called her party the "Nina Turner Party".

[betsuni]

102. "Hello Somebody Named Nina Turner"

[George II]

157. Exactly, and specifically, from the People's Party itself (of which she is a co-founder):

The People’s Party isn’t on the ballot in Ohio yet so she will have to run as a Democrat

https://peoplesparty.org/nina-turner-congress/

Given the option she would have run as a People's Party candidate.

[Rustyeye77]

29. You got guts to say that here.

[Demsrule86]

82. Nina Turner is not a Democrat.

[Doremus]

126. She's running in the Democratic primary.

[Demsrule86]

134. Meaningless to me...she is using the Democratic Party...I will not ever ever vote for her

in a primary. And I live in her district. Most of her support is out of state. I do not think even with name recognition which is her only advantage, she wins the primary. I vote for Democrats. She gets my vote in a general grudgingly...and I work like hell for whoever runs against her in two years. I despise Nina Turner and hold her partially responsible for the election of Trump. She created an independent party and is not a Democrat.

[WA-03 Democrat]

146. Because she could get on the ballot we her People's Party,

Our (failed) Revolution Party, nor the Greens would get her on the ballot. She is train jumping pure and simple. I don’t like when Sen. Sanders is a Democratic member when it suit him. If you run for the Democratic nomination 2 times and are still not sure you should join after decades and decades of republicans trying to oppress and tear down civil rights and economic opportunities what does it take for someone to see that one side IS fighting for Democracy and one side for fascism. I am sure many repukes are sad their party was taking over by a populist named trump.

Biden=Gold
Hillary=Gold
Obama=Gold
Fudge=Gold
Clyburn=Gold
Pelosi=Gold


Turner=Not qualified, not a Democratic Party Member and consider being VP with Jill “at the table with Putin and Mikey Flynn” Stein.

[sheshe2]

177. I vote for the Gold Medal.

That would be a Dem. Your post? +1000

[George II]

199. That's true. And her own People's Party (the party she co-founded last summer) revealed why....

....she's running in the Democratic Party:

https://peoplesparty.org/nina-turner-congress/

"The People’s Party isn’t on the ballot in Ohio yet so she will have to run as a Democrat"

They don't even try to hide the fact that they're using the Democratic Party only because they can't use their own party to be on the ballot.

[WA-03 Democrat]

115. Yes

I have guts has well as eyes and ears too.

Truth be told, I am very afraid everyone from the “Nina Turner is Awesome” from the DU chat room will release all their piss and vinegar on me.

You can find her DU chatroom with the upper right search “💩”

[Chili]

129. ah.

So that's where they're coming from. Thank you. Explains it.

[George II]

155. It's nothing different from what she said about our Presidential candidate, and now President:

Nina Turner, assessing the choice of Biden against President Donald Trump in the November presidential election, told The Atlantic: “It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.’ It’s still shit.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

[Trueblue1968]

34. i agree with you 28746934 PER CEnt

[oasis]

204. Those who describe Turner as a "disloyal, brooding, malcontent"

would be standing on more solid ground. Not saying that I totally disagree with your description.

[Autumn]

24. She will make a nice addition. Turner's campaign announced on June 17 that

Turner’s campaign raised six figures in less than 24 hours. She's doing quite well.

[Chili]

75. Yes, she will make a nice addition for the GOP

The GOP would love for her to win, so she can divide the party and cause constant problems. There's a reason the Congressional Black Caucus did NOT endorse her. There's something wrong with a "Democrat" who says that Joe Biden and Trump were the same half bowl of shit. And who was pushing for a 3rd party.

I don't want her representing me. She will be divisive and belligerent just as she's always been.

[ChubbyStar]

77. Thanks for your opinion! n/t

[Autumn]

96. She won't go caucus with Republicans. She also won't look for the magical unicorn of bipartisanship,

she will do just fine. I also doubt President Biden is bothered by what she said. He's a big man. Is she wins she will repreent her district well and the people in it.

[Chili]

109. No she will not

She is mean to the core and will divide the party. She proves that every time she opens her mouth.

[Autumn]

110. She will divide the party no more than any other politician will. Some will like her, some won't.

That's the nature of politics.

[Chili]

113. I'm done with you.

Anybody who supports such a hateful person - and refuses to listen to ANYBODY ON THIS THREAD - especially somebody who LIVES IN THAT DISTRICT - is not worth talking to.

And especially somebody who obviously supports her campaign.

[Autumn]

114. Facts are uncomfortable. She has the support of 50% of likely voters in Ohio and is ahead of the

pack. She is running in and has the support of the Democratic party and Democrats in the district she's r unning for. I support Democrats.

[Chili]

116. Facts mean absolutely nothing to you.

1. She attacked Hillary Clinton AFTER Bernie conceded and agreed to help her campaign.

2. She attacked Joe Biden AFTER he and Bernie agreed to work together - it amazes me that you apparently approve of her calling Biden a bowl of shit.

3. She is so heavily 3rd party and difficult to work with so, AGAIN, was NOT endorsed by the Congressional Black Caucus.

4. Don't give me your "I support Democrats" bullshit when you choose to support and post for HER when the Congressional Black Caucus - pretty damn progressive - endorsed BROWN... the DEMOCRAT.

You work for her campaign? And you're badgering a VOTER in that district because I won't vote for her? You're just like her - petty, divisive, and vindictive.

[Autumn]

120. I'm not badgering you to vote for her. Facts are she has a lot of support in her district and state.

Vote for whomever you chose to or not. I don't care who you vote for. You responded to me, otherwise I would never have talked to you. I replied with facts so don't lie and say I am badgering you. As for you accusing me of being petty, divisive, and vindictive? I have not called you names. I gave ylou facts. I'm not the one hating someone I don't know because they said something about someone else. Take a hint from your name and Chill.

There are a lot of people the Congressional Black Caucus has and has not endorsed. Politicians say things about other politicians. They are entitled to their opinion and opinions change. Biden is not a snowflake. He's a strong man and a strong leader,so f. As long as she votes for his agenda I won't have a problem with what she said.

[Chili]

123. "They are entitled to their opinion and opinions"

So... stop badgering me, because I'm goddam entitled to mine. I answered you because she is not worth my vote, as many many many people on this thread have said. But you continue to argue her worth to me, in spite of the majority opinion - and not just here, in Congress! Why? Why do you feel it necessary to promote her to ME? I'm the only one on this thread in that district, who will be voting for MY REPRESENTIVE, yet you continue to ignore why I won't vote for her. If who I vote for doesn't matter to you, then STFU and move on from the ONE person on this thread who be PRIMARILY EFFECTED by this election. And Nina Turner is absolutely petty, divisive and vindictive. And you like that.

And funny, those facts I listed about her behavior - you didn't address a single one.

And I don't hate you. You equate defending my right to vote against her as hate? You equate getting angry because you want a mean-spirited person to win OH-11 - MY DISTRICT - as hate? What a projection for somebody who promotes Nina Turner.

[Autumn]

137. You responded to me. I responded back. That's how message boards work.I have not asked you to vote for

her. I've told you what I have read about her in the Ohio news and I'm pretty certain you are not ther only Democrat in Ohio. . As for badgering you? I have responded to you only when you respond to me. That's how message boards work. There is not one time I have badgered you about ANYTHING. I have not suggested you vote for her. I don't care if you vote for her. I'm not promting her, I certainly don't care who you vote for. Ohio and I never said you hated me. Your opinion of me means as much as your opinion of Nina Turner. whom you do seem to hate. You might quit projecting into my posts what isn't there.

[George II]

132. Here is how People's Party, the party she co-founded, announced her candidacy:

https://peoplesparty.org/nina-turner-congress/

The People’s Party isn’t on the ballot in Ohio yet so she will have to run as a Democrat

That says the only reason she's running as a Democrat is she can't appear on the ballot under her own party banner. It also essentially says that if the People's Party WAS on the ballot, she'd run in November against the Democratic candidate as a candidate of the People's Party.

[Chili]

133. so she's going to bring her People's Party with her

... this just bothers me so much. Like I've said many times - because I'm proud of it - my district has been represented, in succession, by Dennis Eckart, Louis Stokes, Stephanie-Tubbs Jones, and Marcia Fudge, now HUD secretary, and now we have to deal with this woman who might win. It could be disastrous, especially with the small majority we have in the House, with 2022 coming up. Imagine how she will talk to Nancy Pelosi, imagine how her narcissism will blossom like Manchin with that kind of power.

[JustAnotherGen]

214. I get it

Thank you for speaking up for yourself!

[Cha]

153. Amen & Hallelujah! Thank You! Facts Matter!

[Chili]

154. hey Cha!

Yes they do!

[Cha]

160. I really appreciate you telling it like it is with

Turner..

Hopefully we get Shontel Brown in Ohio District 11 so we have someone who is brilliant and will work as a Team to help Nancy Pelosi and Pres Biden!

[Chili]

167. Yes

Perfectly said!

[Cha]

171. TY.. and I just read your post that

said you were in Marcia Fudge's former District..

Best of Luck to you & Ohio District 11, & our Country!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

172. Great post

I have trouble considering someone who bragged about voting for Jill Stein being considered a member of the party. Turner not only bragged about voting for Stein but she campaigned for Stein. A vote for Jill Stein was a vote for TFG. Turner's attacks on Joe Biden were designed to help re-elect TFG. Turner has worked to elect and re-elect TFG in two straight elections.

The peoples party also troubles me. This party was formed to hurt the Democratic Party and you cannot be loyal to the Peoples Party and the Democratic Party

I was a Clinton delegate at the 2016 National Convention and there were stories about Nina throwing fits behind the scenes that were disturbing. There were fears that Nina would attack Clinton if given an opportunity by having a prime time speaking slot. The decision was made that the party could not trust Turner to have a prime time speaking slot. Given what happened with Stein and Joe Biden, that decision has proved to be a good decision.

The party needs to hold this seat and we need a real Democrat to be the nominee. I have issues with Nina Turner. I support the Democratic Party and its candidates. Nominating a non-Democrat like Turner is a bad idea

[Chili]

176. yes, and her tweet about it was telling

Why would you tweet something like this?

Link to tweet

?lang=en

[Chili]

180. oh and I forgot to say...

... fantastic to have been a delegate! Envy envy! I was sorry that the GOP convention was here in our Q (Quicken Loans Arena, now Rocket Mortgage Field House). I was right there at our Cavs game 7 watch party, but the floor was all messed up preparing for the convention. But hey, what a night!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

183. It takes years of hard work to be elected a delegate

It was a once in a life time event but unfortunately I had nasty experience in Philadelphia. John Lewis, Elijah Cummings, Stacey Abrams and others non-white speakers were booed as part of planned stunts by one person's delegates. My whip was warning me of these stunts 20 minutes in advance. My daughter was my guest and was cornered, yelled at and call the c-word for not agreeing to get me to change my vote.

I did get to see John Lewis and Kareem at an event. I have been fortunate enough to have heard John Lewis tell his preaching to chicken story four times in person.

I brought home some signs used during floor speeches at the National Convention and I got Joe Biden to sign three of the floor speech signs used during his speech at the convention at a fundraiser in 2019. One sign says "Keep the Faith". Joe is a very nice person.

[Chili]

186. okay now I'm really envious!

What great memories to have!

And I can bet which person's delegates those were. It's kind of shocking to me to think what a kind, generous, empathetic person Bernie Sanders probably is, and yet he hires vicious people to intimidate and bully, and offers feeble apologies for it. Their nastiness was talked about at the time, and happened again in 2020, it was a topic for both elections. Really sad. That was awful how your daughter was treated.

I've only had one single interactive moment with someone in politics... it was Dennis Kucinich, when he was a baby-faced councilman in Cleveland, before he even ran for mayor. He visited my elementary school and spoke to us in the library. While he was speaking, I drew a picture of his face. When he was finished, I showed my teacher, who dragged me over to him. He really liked it and signed his autograph. I thought I'd run for some office or other when I grew up, but alas... That's it for me! I know it's around in a box somewhere, haven't seen it for years. But I've watched every Dem convention since 1968, so I know how active and involved you must be to get there. Love it!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

187. A lawschool classmate was a delegate sitting three seats down from me

When we got to the convention we had a whipping infrastructure in place to deal with a number of potential floor votes. I had to pass him my iphone to show my law school classmate the warning from my whip about this planned stunt. His whip had stopped forwarding material when it became clear that we would not have three or four floor votes on the platform, credentials or rules committees. Next thing I know my iphone went up and down the row of delegates

I have been active in politics for a long time and so have been fortunate. I have met Hillary twice and got a great selfie with her taken by Congressman Al Green. I have been to a number of state conventions and keep getting put on the rules committee which is no fun.

Again, thank you for your post I agree with your position

[Chili]

189. great posting with you!

Hope you're still involved in 2024!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

203. I will be involved

Abbott and the GOP are working on voter suppression because due to some demographic trends, Texas may flip in 2022 or 2024. This trend may accelerate some if more GOP types die off due to not taking COVID vaccines

[babylonsister]

211. Seriously?

I'll take whomever advances the party right now, warts and all, and all pols have them.

[Chili]

212. seriously.

Last edited Sun Jun 27, 2021, 02:45 AM - Edit history (1)

She will not advance the party. She despises the party. She's not warts. She's cancer.

[George II]

131. She has the support of 50% of voters who were chosen to respond to a pollster....

...that was hired by the Turner Committee, Tulchin Research:

TULCHIN RESEARCH CA RESEARCH CONSULTING 2/24/2021 0:00 $20,000.00
TULCHIN RESEARCH CA RESEARCH CONSULTING 1/22/2021 0:00 $60,000.00

That is the only poll that has been released for the OH-11 Democratic Primary, there have been no other polls.

Think of it this way - there are thirteen candidates in the primary. For one candidate to get more support than all the other 12 candidates combined is virtually impossible.

Finally, when did she receive "the support of the Democratic Party"? If she did she'd have it splayed all over her website, Twitter, and every other social media platform.

[PatSeg]

163. Thank you

I was just about to Google that 50% statistic. It just didn't sound right.

[George II]

168. If that 50% were correct and objective that would mean she has more support than the other....

....twelve candidates COMBINED. That's simply not the case.

I also found this interesting statement in one of the few articles discussing this poll.

The poll was conducted by Tulchin Research in California. Now here's the statement from the article:

Tulchin and other campaign spokespersons

Apparently the founder and head of the company that conducted the poll is also a Turner campaign spokesperson!!!! So much for an objective poll.


https://therealdealpress.com/2.0/index.php/politics/425-poll-shows-nina-turner-far-ahead-in-special-election-congressional-primary-race

[Demsrule86]

139. She doesn't have this much support.

[Demsrule86]

141. She doesn't have this much support.

[Demsrule86]

135. I would not put it past her, knowing how much she despises the Democratic Party to

caucus with the GOP. She is a bad choice period. We need a Democrat not someone who is a member of the People's Party which is basically around to hammer Democrats and ignore the GOP.

[Autumn]

140. You might not put it past her but that doesn't mean she will. nt

[Demsrule86]

142. And it doesn't mean she won't.

[Demsrule86]

84. She is unlikely to win despite all the out of state money.

[Autumn]

95. Money matters for some but not for others? Turner is doing quite well in Ohio. I think she'll

do just fine. She leads Ohio’s 11th Congressional District with support from 50% of likely voters. "likely voters". I doubt they are counting out of state voters.

[WA-03 Democrat]

119. This was a poll by Tulchin Research

Rated by 538 as B/C level and there last research election polling cycle was 2018. They did do research for Bernie for ads in 2020 primary. I think this was good thing because the ad spend of Sanders vs. Biden shows that a guy with no money wiped the plate clean. Tulchin help Nina and Bernie make millions of $$ in wasted ad spend evaporate. Nina just got a favor back for using them. How do I know this go to their site. You will see big pictures of Nina, Bernie and a Manatee. They are media consultants.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/tulchin-research/

KellyAnne had a better poll operation

[Autumn]

121. I go by what newspapers in Ohio are saying.

[Demsrule86]

143. The stories are based off the poll she bought and paid for...time will tell if she has a lead and

how sustainable it is as more find out who she is in terms of not being a Democrat and what she said and did in the last two elections...she trashed Biden for example even though the alternative was
Trump...can you vote for her? Do you live in the district? I do, and I won't vote for her in the primary.

[Autumn]

170. Most campaigns and candidates pay for polls.

No I'm not in her district, I don't have to live there to dicuss her.

[Demsrule86]

225. Of course you can discuss anything you wish...but you bring up a good point...I think

much of Nina's support is from outside the district.

[WA-03 Democrat]

147. Sorry but I am getting whiplash from your pivoting

First it’s was the polling outfit that not polled an election cycle since 2018.
Now it’s newspapers saying she is going to win?

Got a link?

Nina is that you?

[Autumn]

150. Of course you are. I said according to the Ohio newpapers she is polling high among likely voters

I said nothing about any one poll. That would most likely be George talking about polls. I said according to Ohio newspapers she polling high among likely voters. Plaese don't add to my posts thing that aren't there. You can google them,easy to do. No I'm not Nina. I doubt she would bother with this place. She has better things to do. Like campaign.

[WA-03 Democrat]

151. See #95

You quote a poll at 50% for the bowl of shit media consultant firm that was paid by Ms. Turner. No newspaper cited or any link in any of your rebuttals.

No link, no proof but stir it up.

[Autumn]

166. Acording to this article it's a reputable poll. Her's is not the first campign to pay for a poll.

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/democracy-2020/local-politics/nina-turner-way-out-in-front-for-congressional-seat-poll-finds

CLEVELAND — According to a recent survey of likely voters, former Ohio State Sen. Nina Turner has a commanding lead among likely Democratic primary voters for the special election to fill Ohio’s 11th Congressional District seat, vacated by Marcia Fudge, now the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development in the Biden administration.

The poll was paid for by the Turner campaign and conducted by Tulchin Research, a reputable progressive polling agency. It found 50% of those polled would vote for Turner in the Democratic primary special election for Congress, if it were held today. That’s an advantage of more than three-to-one over her nearest competitor in the special election, Cuyahoga County Councilmember Shontel Brown, whom 15% of those polled preferred. Twenty-one percent were undecided.

Broken down by ethnicity, Turner was preferred by 52% of Black voters surveyed and 48% of white voters.

Don't like it? Link to another that poll show she's as well hated as you hope.

[WA-03 Democrat]

174. Thank you for the link

1. She paid for the poll
2. They are B/C rated by fivethriyeight - that is not a reputable rating unless a poor reputation is desired
3. They are biased for so called "progressives" because that is who admittedly who pays them.
4. Tulchin's business is progressive slogan and message testing

Tulchin has done a WHOPPING 3 polls during their existence. Barbra Boxer hired them for 2 of them in 2010. So, last 10 years one poll.

If they were a polling company they would be affiliated with professional polling organization (NCPP/AAPOR/Roper) but they are not
member of any polling industry boards. They are a niche media consultant firm at best. Zogby is rated higher.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/tulchin-research/

[George II]

198. According to this article, Tulchin is a spokesperson of the Turner Campaign:

Tulchin and other campaign spokespersons

https://therealdealpress.com/2.0/index.php/politics/425-poll-shows-nina-turner-far-ahead-in-special-election-congressional-primary-race

According to Turner's OWN FEC filings, she paid Tulchin Research $80,000 for that poll.

There are no links to other polls because the other candidates didn't feel the need to pay anyone to conduct a poll for them, as Turner did.

[George II]

193. There is only ONE poll released for the OH-11 Democratic primary. That poll was paid for by...

....the Turner campaign and conducted by a Turner Campaign spokesperson according to an Ohio media source.

She's polling high in that ONE poll only. The Ohio newspapers are basing their reports on very slim data, i.e., that one poll.

BTW, which newspapers did you read that reported that? I haven't found a single newspaper that reported on that.

There is one "publication" that reproduced the original story (circulated by Turner's campaing) - it's available at a number of "drop locations" that have boxes, most being supermarkets, diners, tobacco shops, etc. Cover price: $0.00

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=41.509876853800954%2C-81.70991655000002&z=11&mid=1QduKrLeJMknBMJfVNHa4zRY2o0Y19olt

[Demsrule86]

136. She leads in a poll that she paid for...and She is not popular here. I live in her district

you know. The word is her internal polls are awful.

[Demsrule86]

81. Nope not nice. Nina Turner is not a Democrat and has not supported Democrats. She

is not popular in Ohio. Most of her money comes from out of state...she could actually lose the seat. She would be a disaster.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

5. .

[Ocelot II]

8. Nina Turner? Why not an actual Democrat?

[WA-03 Democrat]

148. Because the republicans just are so kick ass n/t

[Cha]

9. Because of course shoe does.

[mcar]

12. What a surprise!

[krawhitham]

191. +1

[PortTack]

13. Why not Shontel?? Turner is nothing but trouble

[ForgoTheConsequence]

58. Because her district wants a progressive voice.

Why not Nina?

[Chili]

76. You don't speak for me

Yes, I'd like a progressive voice - one that has class and can work with her party and isn't proud of the ugliness she constantly spits on Democrats. What an embarrassment she will be if she wins.

[Doremus]

128. And you don't speak for me.

Nina is a force for change. Status quo is killing us.

BTW, have you driven around lately? I'm seeing twice as many Nina signs as the opponents.

[Demsrule86]

86. Do you live in Ohio? I do not want Nina Turner who by the way has never won an election in

Ohio. She was appointed. I live in Nina Turner's district. I am a Democrat I want a Democratic representative. I do not support nor approve of third parties period. They should run in their own party.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

94. You are from Ohio?

And you don’t even know Turner actually DID win an election?

Maybe you should look again.

[Demsrule86]

138. She was appointed to her last seat. She was on the City counsel for what six years...I don't

really find that impressive. And the Clintons whom she turned on helped her a great deal. She lost the last time she ran for office. She has a track record now of trashing Democrats including Biden since 16...and I for one will not vote for her in the primary...the general sure. But she could lose this seat...the Republicans see an opening if she is the nominee.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

152. She ran for her seat and won a second term.

How do you not know this?

[Autumn]

117. If you know she was appointed in 2008 you should know she ran and won a full term in 2010

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As a Democrat. In Ohio.

[Demsrule86]

144. She was the incumbent and the Clintons helped her too...but since then she has become

someone who despises the party. She did not support Biden our nominee thus, she will never have my support in the primary ...a general yes in the hope she would caucus with us and not attack the party constantly. She is a member of the People's Party and should run as such. I really don't think she wins anyway...could be wrong but...

[Chili]

124. Yes

That's my district. I have voted for Louis Stokes, Stephanie Tubbs-Jones, and Marcia Fudge. This would be like a drop from Obama to Trump.

Hi Ohioan!

[Demsrule86]

145. Hi back at you Ohioan and yes it would be exactly that.

[George II]

159. In that case, why not Shontel Brown?

[kcr]

14. Of course she did n/t

[betsuni]

15. "powerful corporate interests are supporting Nina's primary opponent."

Is it really necessary to do the "corporate Democrats" thing, insinuating Democrats are controlled by shadowy evil powers who give them some money or something and therefore cannot be for "the people" or have "grassroots"?

What happened to "it's all about the issues and policies."

[Cha]

23. The Congressional Black Caucus is Supporting

Shontel.

Turner started a 3 party & said "voting for Biden is like eating shit".

Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Compares Voting For Biden To Eating ‘S**t’

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

[emulatorloo]

28. Thanks for the link...

Unforgettable and unforgivable.

[Cha]

51. Exactly, emulatorloo.. Turner needs

to be held accountable for saying that about our DEMOCRTIC President Joe Biden

[betsuni]

46. She said they'd "both slay the neofascist, slay the neoliberal ... So yeah, it's revolution time"

at her third party's convention.

Last year she said whether Trump or Biden wins there should be mass protests on January 21, "But ESPECIALLY if it's Biden. Progressives cannot sit back and allow him to run that White House any way he wants. Because we were right then and we are right now. The things that we were fighting for are universally accepted ... . We were right and we still are right. ... Don't let him have a moment's rest."

Um ...

[Cha]

57. Yeah she needs to be held Accountable for

her words.

Shine the LIGHT!

[WA-03 Democrat]

149. Thank you Cha!

The wing of our party that won the 2018 house back and a perfect trifecta (house, senate, executive) in 2020 says Shontel-this thread is done for me.

VOTE SHONTEL!

https://shontelbrown.com/endorsements/

Great endorsement and a really cool picture of her with a wonderful President.

[Cha]

156. TY, WA., for the link to Pres Obama w/Shontll..

and all the beautiful endorsements for Shontel Brown!

[FoxNewsSucks]

47. Yes, sometimes it is necessary.

"Third-Way" ring any bells? Some Democrats are indeed beholden to their corporate donors and that is a BAD thing.

All republicons are totally owned, lock stock and barrel, by billionaires and corporations. Are you implying that all Democrats are? Or should be? Because I disagree. I think NO Democrats should ever put the whims and wishes of billionaires and corporations over the needs of working Americans. Do you not agree with that?

Corporations and billionaires want influence. It is idiotic to think they would not attempt to get it in the party they don't yet own. It is political suicide to turn a blind eye to that effort to gain control.

[betsuni]

48. What evidence is there that Shontel Brown is controlled by powerful corporate interests?

Or any other Democrat?

[FoxNewsSucks]

49. I didn't make that claim about Brown.

and you didn't address anything in my post.

---> Third Way

[betsuni]

52. Brown is Turner's primary opponent. That's the discussion.

[FoxNewsSucks]

55. I'll take your continued dodge as my acknowledgement

Have a nice night.

[betsuni]

59. Which Democrats are beholden to corporate donors? Who?

[FoxNewsSucks]

61. I responded to your post, until you respond to mine

I have nothing further to say.

Have a nice evening.

[betsuni]

62. Can't answer what I don't understand. Something about Third Way, billionaires and corporations

making Democrats beholden. I never get an answer when I ask which Democrats are beholden.

[FoxNewsSucks]

63. You understand perfectly.

[ChubbyStar]

64. Ah Meryl I love her!

Thanks for the laugh!

[FoxNewsSucks]

65. She really is good,

and that was such a great movie

[betsuni]

66. I'll be up all night wondering what Third Way has to do with anything.

[ChubbyStar]

67. That's a shame

Sleep is very important.

[FoxNewsSucks]

70. oh my!

[FoxNewsSucks]

68. You asked a question, which I answered. It's not my job to fill in the gaps

of another's education, or political awareness. So don't stay up all night. Getting some rest would be much more useful.

Thanks, though, for the likely-unintended admission of having no real response to my answer several posts back.

[betsuni]

69. Good thing I'm not staying up until someone tells me which Democrats are beholden to

billionaires and corporations because I'd never sleep again.

[FoxNewsSucks]

71. Why hasn't S1 passed?

Which elected Democrats aren't helping make sure every American can vote for whom they want, ensuring that their vote will count, and be meaningful?

That is what should be keeping you up at night, not this petty back & forth.

[betsuni]

74. But how does anyone know it's because they're beholden to billionaires and corporations?

And why does what a few conservative Democrats do get turned into a blanket accusation of the entire party being the same as Republicans? If the whole party was corrupt, why were there zero Democratic votes for the Trump tax cuts? Why do so many Democrats want progressive policies? Aren't all the billionaires and corporations Democrats are beholden to mad? I keep hearing how they will stop at nothing to prevent anything progressive. The beholden didn't work! I think they must be mad.

[FoxNewsSucks]

78. Who said it was a blanket accusation? Not me.

Those are your words.

There have been numerous posts on this site about the Koch Empire influence. Perhaps it might be a good idea to review them.

You know, since you'll be up all night anyway. . .

[betsuni]

79. Never said you said that. Nina Turner does: both sides are the same is a blanket accusation.

You said corporations and billionaires want influence and are attempting to "get it in the party they don't yet own," that they're making an "effort to gain control." Not very successful. No Democrats voted to repeal the ACA or voted for Trump tax cuts. The goals of the Biden administration are progressive, as everyone can see.

Koch money doesn't influence Democrats, it funds the think tanks that create legislation for Republicans, among other things.

[ChubbyStar]

72. I can't help but try Google

I hear it has lots of answers. Couldn't hurt.

[betsuni]

92. I tried Googling "List of Democrats beholden to billionaires and corporations" but a couple of

Forbes articles and things about billionaires were the only things that came up. No list. What do you suggest Googling? Where do I find the names of all these corrupt Democrats beholden to billionaires and corporations? Obviously the people accusing them of being corrupt have proof, otherwise why would they accuse them and promote the "both sides" propaganda? We should know so we don't vote for them. Why the secrecy? It sounds like a conspiracy theory to encourage voters to cynically not vote and think everyone in government is corrupt, like the conspiracy theories about the DNC rigging elections. That couldn't be it, could it?

[emulatorloo]

107. 'I can't back up my accusations, so I'll declare VICTORY instead'

Sorry, you didn’t answer the question at all. Nice rhetorical strategy to say you did and try to make the other poster seem ignorant, sometimes that kind of stragegy works.

[FoxNewsSucks]

111. . Not at all

I did respond to that person's post. It seems you may not have read back far enough. That person did not respond to my reply with anything relevant, instead just continually tried to change the subject

[betsuni]

112. ...

THIRD WAY!!!!!

[Demsrule86]

87. First of all Democrats have to win elections...it costs money. And one of the reasons we are in

such a tough spot as some have forgotten this...winning is everything.

[betsuni]

91. I've glad these accusations of corruption because of campaign financing, as if the money

goes straight into candidates' pockets as bribes instead of what it's used for -- paying for things -- isn't as loud as it used to be. Remnants remain, though.

[George II]

161. But bottom line, "corporate" Democrats are the Democrats doing all the work in Congress...

I'd still like to see a clear, unbiased and uncliched definition of "corporate Democrat".

[betsuni]

213. The definition: anyone who doesn't rant about how evil capitalism is and something about revolution

and movements.

Elizabeth Warren really rained on that parade by saying she was capitalist to her bones, but we'll just pretend that never happened.

[BlueLucy]

17. Nina must have terrible internal polling.

Looks like she's calling all her allies for help. Cenk is campaigning for her too, isn't he?

[ChubbyStar]

42. People generally call their allies when they run for office n/t

[Demsrule86]

88. Cant' stand him either.

[George II]

194. Cenk Uygur and Killer Mike (a staunch NRA supporter) did a "Town Hall" with her this afternoon....

Most of what they did was bash the Democratic Party (the party for whom she wants to be the nominee) and even worse, James Clyburn.

Killer Mike called Clyburn "incredibly stupid", to which Turner nodded her head in agreement.

[BlueLucy]

216. Holy shit with ears!!

Are you kidding me?

[ForgoTheConsequence]

18. I guess the big tent isn't so big.

She's got everyone's hair on fire. I love it!

[iemanja]

26. Do you agree with her that

voting for Joe Biden is like eating a bowl of shit? Is that the kind of hair on fire you admire?

[emulatorloo]

31. Nobody's hair's not on fire. We just remember when she endorsing Jill Stein and called Biden shit

We’re just not fond of anti-Democratic Trump enablers.

Of course YMMV

[Hassin Bin Sober]

35. Right?

[betsuni]

39. Nina despised the Democratic tent so joined a new one, Movement for a People's Party.

She wanted to run as a People's Party candidate but it wasn't on the ballot yet, only ran as a Democrat because she had to.

[Demsrule86]

90. She is not in the big tent as she is not a Democrat period full stop.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

201. She is a Democrat.

You don’t get to decide who is and who isn’t a Democrat.

[Demsrule86]

224. She decided...when she formed and joined the People's Party. Thus she is running as a Democrat

but is not a Democrat. I prefer Democrats and she went against two Democratic presidential nominees.

[tonedevil]

227. You will probably not want to vote for her. /nt

[betsuni]

228. Nor will Democrats who want Democrats elected, not third party populist candidates.

[tonedevil]

229. OK

[Scrivener7]

19. That's too bad.

[NurseJackie]

20. I prefer loyal Democrats who don't compare Biden to a bowl of shit.

... and who don't endorse Jill Fucking Stein. Honestly, this endorsement speaks volumes and it's not necessarily positive.

[Peacetrain]

25. Amen to that!!!!!!!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

30. Indeed

[Trueblue1968]

38. nina turner attacjed and lied about Hillary!!!

Nina Turner is a controversial figure in and out of the Democratic Party. An outspoken far-Left progressive, Turner is best known for abandoning the Hillary Clinton campaign for Bernie Sanders’ organization during the 2016 primary. Her opposition to Clinton was so vociferous, the DNC stripped her of a speaking slot at the Democratic National Convention, an act that inspired a high-profile protest by Hollywood liberals like Susan Sarandon and Danny Glover.

https://insidesources.com/nina-turner-coming-new-hampshire/

******* it is sooooooooooooooooooo hot, i don't want to spend an hour on you tube pull up those HILLARY HATING videos by Ninny Turner. Sorry but that paragaph above says where i'm coming from. Hillary is not supporting Turner but is supporting her opponent.

[PortTack]

41. Her attack on HRC were horrible...long after sanders had lost the primary

Unforgivable

[Trueblue1968]

45. guess Nina feels good about herself when she is doing the impression of a BULLY. Not nice

[iemanja]

27. I despise Nina Turner

precisely because she hates the Democratic party. Now she wants to be the bowl of shit that she compared Biden to? Fuck that. One thing is obvious, she has no principles or she wouldn't be part of a party she has trashed so often.

AOC's decision is unfortunate.

[LostinRed]

37. Agreed

[Happy Hoosier]

108. Agree. NT

[BGBD]

36. What's he record

Of endorsing eventual winners?

[PatSeg]

44. That's a good question

[ChubbyStar]

53. Does Vegas have odds on this? What is your point? n/t

[Happy Hoosier]

40. Because of course she would.

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Birds of a feather I guess. I had hoped AOC would grow into a leader, but…. Nope.

[LowerManhattanite]

50. Good for her.

(Preps another donation to Shontel Brown’s campaign.)

[FelineOverlord]

54. AOC endorses Nina Turner for Congress

I like AOC but really don’t like Nina. If she does get elected she’ll cause a lot of trouble in the House.

She strikes me as very narcissistic. She was so toxic on Twitter I had to block her. Nancy Pelosi would have to teach her a few lessons.

When Bernie picked Turner, Grey, and Sirota I knew that he would never win the nomination. They were so vile on Twitter that they drove people away.

[ChubbyStar]

60. Thanks for your opinion! n/t

[Demsrule86]

80. I can't stand Nina Turner...and she helped inflict Trump on us and didn't support Biden either.

Nina is not a Democrat.

[Maru Kitteh]

89. One can only hope this is the "Lee Corso" period of AOC's career.

Insofar as endorsements go, that is.

[PatSeg]

101. I can't begin to imagine

what Ocasio-Cortez was thinking. I don't always agree with her, but I really thought she was smarter than that.

[48656c6c6f20]

93. I wonder if she likes her plate of Biden warm or cold?

Spicy or bland? Maybe we'll get to ask her how she likes eating that plate of Biden.

[George II]

97. I believe it's served in bowls.....

Nina Turner, assessing the choice of Biden against President Donald Trump in the November presidential election, told The Atlantic: “It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.’ It’s still shit.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

[48656c6c6f20]

104. Yes that is correct

Bowl of Biden doesn't Roll off the tongue though. I will Log that for future reference. I admit I am Loafing this morning.

[betsuni]

99. Nina said the DNC "tried to seduce us with donuts and water. ... This is insulting. Absolutely

insulting."

But comparing Biden to a bowl of poo? Perfectly fine! It is a totally normal thing to say! Not insulting at all. After all, it's a Democrat.

[emulatorloo]

103. Turner: " To me, there should be mass protests on January 21 whether it's Trump or Biden...

Nina Turner: "To me, on Jan 21st their should be mass protest. Point blank. These are our demands. Whether it's Trump or Biden. But especially if it's Biden. Progressives cannot sit back and allow him to run that WH anyway he wants. ... Don't let him have a moment's rest."

Video here:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1391217240985411586.html

She’s TOXIC. I don’t understand the logic of her fans at DU.

[betsuni]

105. She really emphasized the ESPECIALLY in that sentence.

I'm sure it's the usual, the fans aren't familiar with her.

[emulatorloo]

106. I guess they're too busy posting buzz words/popcorn emojis to research her hot-headed toxicity

[PatSeg]

122. Damn, I hadn't heard that one

She is not only toxic, I think she is unhinged. There is something about her that just isn't quite right.

[Cha]

192. Oh yeah.. she's insulted by

donuts & water but telling "Voting for Biden is like eating shit".. is ok.

I think she was Projecting.

[George II]

98. Nina Turner:

Nina Turner, assessing the choice of Biden against President Donald Trump in the November presidential election, told The Atlantic: “It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.’ It’s still shit.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

[WA-03 Democrat]

178. Did she at least say this in a

Susan Sarandon or Marylyn Manson voice because it sure sounds their "material" from 2016. She does not seem to have an original things to say.

[New Breed Leader]

158. Here's Nina Turner calling Rep. Clyburn names

Link to tweet

[WA-03 Democrat]

169. Disrespecting our Elders

Nina you have never walk in Jim Clyburn shoes. You are too small of a person to look beyond your nose. He's done a ton of great work for this country. No one is above criticism but Clyburn gets credit for kicking you out of Sanders camp because you got beat by President Joe Biden (or bowl of shit as you say). You got beat not because of lack of money. Not because lack of slogan but because people did not want it. Too bad John Lewis isn't alive to hear the Sanders delegates boo him on the floor of the Democratic convention again because that is what you did.

This is the same thing they did to Obama, expecting miracles and big changes right out the gate. Nina calling Clyburn incredible stupid-that is who she is. Nina Turner calling Joe Biden a bowl of shit is what she is. She projects as much as Trump.

IT IS ABOUT RESULTS AND NINA HAS NOTHING TO SHOW

Side note on the great Killer Mikey - he sat down with Governor Kemp to “negotiate” and then Kemp turned around and signed voter restriction laws under a picture of plantations.

Let's just say both of these folks are not Stacey Abrams because to me that is the future of the Democratic Party.

[Cha]

188. she's Projecting. Rt TY.. I agree with Sasha.

[Budi]

164. Clyburn?

Because he didn't endorse her?

Why would he?

Who's she got left?
She's trashtalked the entire Democratic Party & the CBC.
Not exactly endearing 😬

[SMC22307]

173. With Republicans trying to burn down the country it's time to let the Nina hatred go.

If she wins the nomination, we need to do whatever we can to get her into office. Or whomever (D) wins the nomination. LET. IT. GO.

[WA-03 Democrat]

175. She only brings hate and she is not a Democrat

Link to tweet

[SMC22307]

179. But if she wins the nomination, folks will get out the vote for her to defeat the Republican, right?

Justice Democrats are Democrats.

From Wiki:

The seven Justice Democrats candidates who won their electoral congressional races in 2018 include Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Ro Khanna, Raúl Grijalva, and Pramila Jayapal.

You and others may not like it, but it is what it is.

[WA-03 Democrat]

181. If she is the nominee, yes I would vote for her because I am a Democratic Party Member

Justice Democrats are Democrats who feel the need to preface their party's name. Why? What is wrong with saying Democratic Party.

It's because they are populist. They tweet, they post and scrap up on the internet like I am doing right now. These are also the wizards who came up with defund the cops?

AOC said last October (a month the biggest election in a 100 years) "in what country would I be in a party with Biden?"

Heaven's forbid-the horror! Poor thing.

I've donated as much as I can afford today to Shontel. I may be getting a little bonus next week which is going to go to her too. She has a positive message and wants to work with President Biden. What is there not to like?

[Budi]

185. They are all under the careful cultish watch of MOMENTUM MOVEMENT.

And they sure aren't Democrats !

[WA-03 Democrat]

196. If they were a music group

Their band name would be “The Extremes”

(Like The Supremes-sorry Ms. Ross)

[Budi]

200. The ExtremePutinSteins ...

[WA-03 Democrat]

202. A Tribe Called Lost?

A Squad of Seagulls (Seagulls because they 💩 on you)
The Just Pistols
Earth, Wind and Smoke
BTS (burn the squad…I mean the system!)
The Sqeagles
AOC/DC
The Sisters of No Mercy
Nina Jonestown Massacre
The No Legislation Show
The Woke Tan Clan


That’s all I got…

[Budi]

205. LOL..I'd say you covered it all & quite well!

May I pass that along with credit to your screen name, WA-03 Democrat.

Pm me if you'd prefer a diff one.

[WA-03 Democrat]

207. Thanks

Please copy at will.

[Budi]

210. Thanks.

It's on it's way then...

👍

[ChubbyStar]

206. Don't quit your day job n/t

[WA-03 Democrat]

208. Wish I had one to quit

I will try harder to bring the funny next time. My apologies and please look for improvements soon.

[ChubbyStar]

209. Hope you find a day job!

Good luck!

[brooklynite]

219. Answer: no because she won't need to turn out the vote

This is an absolutely safe Democratic seat. All JD is doing is spending time and money to pick one Democrat over another.

[George II]

220. From an announcement by the party she co-founded last year, the People's Party:

https://peoplesparty.org/nina-turner-congress/

The People’s Party isn’t on the ballot in Ohio yet so she will have to run as a Democrat

She will "HAVE" to run as a Democrat, meaning she doesn't want to but she can't get on the ballot any other way. Are you happy with that?

[Budi]

182. Nina should let go first... how bout that

[ChubbyStar]

190. Thanks for your opinion! n/t

[PatSeg]

221. I agree

Politics is not a natural fit for her. Maybe a career where she doesn't have to actually deal with other human beings.

[Budi]

184. Sarandon.."Burn it all down" Glad you've called her what really she is. Thanks

https://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/sarandon-burn-america-start-bernies-political-revolution.html

[George II]

217. You have seen what she's been saying about our Democratic Party over the last five years....

...haven't you?

Did you see what she said about our Democratic nominee, now President Biden last year?

Did you watch her "Town Hall" with gun thumper Killer Mike and Armenian Genocide denier (until he decided to run for Congress), misogynist, and bestiality advocate Cenk Uygur.

One "highlight" of the event was Killer Mike calling Representative James Clyburn "incredibly stupid", to which Turner nodded in agreement.

So, what were you saying about "Nina hatred"?

[SidDithers]

197. ...

Sid

[treestar]

215. Voters in Ohio

care what a representative from another state thinks?

[brooklynite]

223. Probably not; but money is money...

The rest of the email was a plea for money to counter the "corporate interests".

[MissMillie]

218. Well, to my way of thinking...

Ohioans who like AOC were likely to vote for Turner anyway.

[joetheman]

222. Have we learned nothing from 2016?

Yes, we seem to have learned nothing.

[arthritisR_US]

226. Give me a fecking break.