Observation on the Derek Chauvin threads...

[brooklynite]

When the subject of the Death Palty comes up, the argument is made that some people are more interested in vengeance rather than justice.

I’m sensing some of that now.

From what I can see, justice has been served and a deterrent has been created. I don’t feel the need for more.

[TreasonousBastard]

1. There's a lot of that around, and not just with Chauvin.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. You are absolutely right! And vengeance is NOT justice, ever. n/t

[Ocelot II]

3. Justice doesn't depend on the exact length of the sentence,

although an upward departure from the sentencing guidelines was appropriate and warranted under the law. Justice would be an end to these incidents of police officers mistreating/beating/killing Black and brown suspects. Critical Race Theory in action.

[Eliot Rosewater]

10. Thank you...we have different expectations and rules for white people, period.

I dont care either way when it comes to this sentence because I truly believe nothing will change trumpers or racists, one in the same.

[LanternWaste]

4. I imagine there will be visceral, rather than formal reactions for some weeks.

And, as DU has zero jurisprudence over the case or the sentencing, I would also imagine the vengeance you reference is little more than an immediate and reactive response that doesn't reflect the more weighty and formal considerations that will be given as time passes.

[hlthe2b]

5. I predicted 15 years so 22.5 is better than expected. I DO wish the judge had outlawed any

books or other profit-making enterprises related to the murder of George Floyd. I also don't think he should have internet or social media access for the next 20 years or at least no ability to post.

[BradAllison]

8. I don't think the judge has that actual power

Does he?

[hlthe2b]

11. Judges have done so in some cases in other states.

[ProfessorGAC]

9. Maybe The State Has That Law

We have such a law here in Illinois. I'm guessing on this, but I think it was in the 80s that it was put in place.
Unless I missed something, it still stands.

[Ocelot II]

13. There's a statute in Minnesota (and probably most other states)

that prevents people from profiting from their crimes.

611A.68 LIMITING COMMERCIAL EXPLOITATION OF CRIMES; PAYMENT OF VICTIMS.

Subd. 2a.Notice and payment of proceeds to board required. A person that enters into a contract with an offender convicted in this state, and a person that enters into a contract in this state with an offender convicted in this state or elsewhere within the United States, must comply with this section if the person enters into the contract during the ten years after the offender is convicted of a crime or found not guilty by reason of insanity. If an offender is imprisoned or committed to an institution following the conviction or finding of not guilty by reason of insanity, the ten-year period begins on the date of the offender's release. A person subject to this section must notify the Crime Victims Reparations Board of the existence of the contract immediately upon its formation, and pay over to the board money owed to the offender or the offender's representatives by virtue of the contract according to the following proportions:

(1) if the crime occurred in this state, the person shall pay to the board 100 percent of the money owed under the contract;

(2) if the crime occurred in another jurisdiction having a law applicable to the contract which is substantially similar to this section, this section does not apply, and the person must not pay to the board any of the money owed under the contract; and

(3) in all other cases, the person shall pay to the board that percentage of money owed under the contract which can fairly be attributed to commerce in this state with respect to the subject matter of the contract.

[bucolic_frolic]

6. I'm surprised we got this far

A few - even a couple of - years ago it would have been different.

You exact change through the system and be happy with what change is produced.

[Mr.Bill]

7. Remember he still has yet

to be tried on the federal charges.

To me, the length of the sentence isn't about vengance. It's about protecting the public from harm. He is a very dangerous man.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. It's not a deterrent. it's the cost of doing business.