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Shontel Brown strikes back at Killer Mike and Nina Turner calling James Clyburn "stupid".... (Original Post) George II Jun 2021 OP
Rt TY! Going to read it NOW!! Cha Jun 2021 #1
K&R! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #2
Ooops. sheshe2 Jun 2021 #3
Bazinga, and I posted this Sober! George II Jun 2021 #5
You get 2 Bazingas for that gif!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Jun 2021 #11
... sheshe2 Jun 2021 #18
Heh. betsuni Jun 2021 #31
What they deserve.. TY. Cha Jun 2021 #7
Hey! sheshe2 Jun 2021 #13
.. Cha Jun 2021 #20
How the hell some on this board can support Nina Turner escapes me... hlthe2b Jun 2021 #4
AOC endorsed and approved. gotta stop at that... nt msongs Jun 2021 #9
**snort** nt sheshe2 Jun 2021 #14
Ditto to not knowing how the hell AOC could have endorsed her either. hlthe2b Jun 2021 #15
They are two peas in a pod. comradebillyboy Jun 2021 #16
Not quite 'inexplicable' empedocles Jun 2021 #17
Exactly.. no where near. Cha Jun 2021 #21
Its called reaching for power a larger say Historic NY Jun 2021 #41
Welp............. sheshe2 Jun 2021 #19
And how can Katie Porter? Boggles. n/t moonscape Jun 2021 #40
I am wondering the same thing LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #48
Those who have no idea who Democrats are and who the base is. betsuni Jun 2021 #50
It's people who hate Biden on the down low BannonsLiver Jun 2021 #59
And who recently formed a party to compete with Democrats ...she is NOT A DEMOCRAT. Demsrule86 Jun 2021 #65
My guess, their long anti- Democratic Party histories are Hortensis Jun 2021 #73
I love Shontel Brown.. Excellent Statement Cha Jun 2021 #6
I sincerely hope... Chili Jun 2021 #33
My same thoughts! Cha Jun 2021 #39
Just say MP to NINA. We don't need politicians who lie about Hillary & Badmouth PRES BIDEN Trueblue1968 Jun 2021 #58
But Killer Mike was so POPULAR in these parts..... brooklynite Jun 2021 #8
I think some in the Democratic coalition have redefined "popular". Remember that infamous poll? George II Jun 2021 #10
With who ?!?! uponit7771 Jun 2021 #52
I can see why AOC endorsed Turner. comradebillyboy Jun 2021 #12
Oh yeah.. as I said on that thread.. Cha Jun 2021 #22
Who was surprised by this endorsement? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #49
K&R...Brown is the class act. N/T ( aka as No Turner, heh) Guilded Lilly Jun 2021 #23
absolutely Chili Jun 2021 #24
... Guilded Lilly Jun 2021 #25
... Chili Jun 2021 #30
Yes.. Shontel is brilliant & a Class act! Cha Jun 2021 #42
... Guilded Lilly Jun 2021 #43
I like killer mike BGBD Jun 2021 #26
He supports the NRA. Enough said as far as I'm concerned. George II Jun 2021 #28
Not only supports the NRA... sheshe2 Jun 2021 #34
Anyone who doesn't agree with me is stupid because I'm right, both sides are bribed by corporations. betsuni Jun 2021 #27
whoa Chili Jun 2021 #32
Sing it sister. sheshe2 Jun 2021 #35
I hadn't known about the gun protest comment. Whenever I look up something KM says, "backlash" betsuni Jun 2021 #51
Here is that and more. sheshe2 Jun 2021 #63
Thank you, will read. betsuni Jun 2021 #66
K & R +infinity Budi Jun 2021 #37
Sorry fans.. KM is an Idiot. Cha Jun 2021 #44
Which record label (corporation) does "Big Mike" work for, making his money? Progressive Jones Jun 2021 #81
K.M. - No! Duppers Jun 2021 #29
Killer Mike is an idiot. Clyburn is the reason Biden is in the WH and Dems... brush Jun 2021 #36
They don't care... that means Cha Jun 2021 #46
Nina ran sanders South Carolina operation which was a major disaster LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #55
Well Sanders campaign was a disaster in general. MrsCoffee Jun 2021 #71
who is this killer mike person? niyad Jun 2021 #38
A prominent Sanders supporter and sometimes surrogate comradebillyboy Jun 2021 #45
RIGHT !?!? uponit7771 Jun 2021 #53
He's a political activist. betsuni Jun 2021 #54
A part time Russian asset BannonsLiver Jun 2021 #60
He's a Rapper. /nt tonedevil Jun 2021 #62
Big time NRA supporter. sheshe2 Jun 2021 #64
This is sickening LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #47
Stupid "with love?" Hosted by TYT mcar Jun 2021 #56
Ted Lieu needs to answer some questions LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #57
Rt TY & I had a question of my own! Cha Jun 2021 #61
Now we hate Representative Lieu? tonedevil Jun 2021 #68
Do you approve of the statements made by that Mike idiot and Nina Turner regarding Rep. Clyburn? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #72
I think it is demonstrably untrue... tonedevil Jun 2021 #74
Lieu is endorsing a non-Democrat who voted and campaigned for Jill Stein LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #75
I'll await this comeuppance. /nt tonedevil Jun 2021 #78
There's also the half bowl caper AND that Turner refused to vote for the Democrat in '16 & '21. George II Jun 2021 #76
Then there is no way that... tonedevil Jun 2021 #77
If only it were that simple. George II Jun 2021 #79
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Jun 2021 #67
As a Californian, jml510 Jun 2021 #69
I can't support anyone who compares Biden to a "bowl of shit" or who supports Jill Fucking Stein... NurseJackie Jun 2021 #70
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #80

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
4. How the hell some on this board can support Nina Turner escapes me...
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 09:56 PM
Jun 2021

Have we turned into our own worst enemies?

I can not think of someone running on the Dem ticket in recent years who has been so derisive to the party and its members--including our own President.


hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
15. Ditto to not knowing how the hell AOC could have endorsed her either.
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 10:11 PM
Jun 2021

Some things are inexplicable. I may not always like AOC's positions, but I honestly think AOC will come to regret supporting Nina Turner.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
41. Its called reaching for power a larger say
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 12:41 AM
Jun 2021

These two would have comfortably welcomed Trump back in the WH, especially with their active measures long after the primary's ended.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,321 posts)
48. I am wondering the same thing
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 01:58 AM
Jun 2021

Turner bragged about voting and campaigning for stein and tried to help TFG beat Joe Biden. She is not a Democrat

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
59. It's people who hate Biden on the down low
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 01:46 PM
Jun 2021

They know they can’t say what they want to say about him here so they boost those who say voting for him is “like eating a bowl of shit”.

Clyburn is hated because his endorsement put it out of reach for their guy back in 2020.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
65. And who recently formed a party to compete with Democrats ...she is NOT A DEMOCRAT.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 07:39 PM
Jun 2021

She messed up on this one

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
73. My guess, their long anti- Democratic Party histories are
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 02:03 PM
Jun 2021

a very significant part of the draw. It's been a consistent note through all their perambulations, from attacking from outside and openly advising people to not vote Democratic (as in 2016) to current actions from officially within. Both have spent years equating Democrats with Republicans in intractable shared-evil narratives. Killer's famous agressive hostility toward politicians:

It's scammer bliss when you puttin' villains in charge of shit
All of us targeted, all we doin' is arguin'
Pardon them as they work until every pocket's been picked and soul been harvested
I'm ready to mob on these fuckin' charlatans (Charlatans, charlatans, charlatans, charlatans, charlatans, charlatans)


Echoed, of course, by Ms. Turner's famous depiction of Democratic policies as shit.

I sometimes wonder, if attacking Democrats from the right as a Republican were seen as acceptable among some as attacking Democrats from the left is, how people like Mr. Blacks-should-buy-guns might identify.

Cha

(297,317 posts)
6. I love Shontel Brown.. Excellent Statement
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 10:00 PM
Jun 2021

about Rep Clyburn endorsing Biden & the rest is DEMOCRATIC History! Boom!

TY Rep Clyburn, Sec Buttigieg, Sen Klobuchar, & Beto O'Rourke!

Chili

(1,725 posts)
33. I sincerely hope...
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 11:34 PM
Jun 2021

... that she pays dearly for her agreement with the attack on Clyburn. She already had enemies, but she's riling them up. You go, girl.

Cha

(297,317 posts)
39. My same thoughts!
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 12:30 AM
Jun 2021

That's all they have are vicious attacks.. . that's what they do.

Must think it works.. it sure as hell didn't work with President Joe Biden!

Trueblue1968

(17,228 posts)
58. Just say MP to NINA. We don't need politicians who lie about Hillary & Badmouth PRES BIDEN
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 01:40 PM
Jun 2021

"NEGATIVE NINA" did both of those rotten actions. I can't stand her.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,321 posts)
49. Who was surprised by this endorsement?
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 01:59 AM
Jun 2021

They share common values which are NOT the values of many in the Democratic Party

Chili

(1,725 posts)
24. absolutely
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 10:57 PM
Jun 2021

What a difference between the two.

And I swear, those pro-Turner people on that twitter thread reminds me of those freaky bot people who used to suddenly take over pro-Biden threads before the election. So obvious.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
34. Not only supports the NRA...
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 11:40 PM
Jun 2021

When Parkland students put together a walk out against guns...Mike told his kids if they followed they could not walk back in their own front door.


WTF?

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
27. Anyone who doesn't agree with me is stupid because I'm right, both sides are bribed by corporations.
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 11:10 PM
Jun 2021

Same old script.

Someone in the comments reminded us about Mike meeting Georgia governor Brian Kemp, how much Mike liked him: "Politics and policy don't matter to me as much as human decency and principles and he seemed to be a principled human being when I talked to him."

Principles and human decency? Policy not important? Okay, Mike. You're a really good judge of character . Nothing wrong with meeting Republicans, but if you think they're more decent and principled than Democrats, if you can't bring yourself to vote for the Democratic presidential nominee because you think they're the same or worse than Trump ...

Hillary Clinton/Joe Biden and Trump? Same, can't tell the difference! Everyone is corrupted by corporations somehow because corporations control everything! Everything is terrible and everyone's out to get me because I am the only one who cares about working families in this bleak corrupt neoliberal establishment corporatist status quo oligarchy. Don't vote for Democrats except for me when I'm forced to run as one of them because my third party isn't on the ballot yet! Authentic, principled!




sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
35. Sing it sister.
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 11:48 PM
Jun 2021

Good ole Mikie...

Hate the corporations and love the NRA.

Said he would kick his own kids out of his house if they walked out with Parkland students in protest of guns. What father, what black father does that? I don't get it.

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
51. I hadn't known about the gun protest comment. Whenever I look up something KM says, "backlash"
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 02:29 AM
Jun 2021

is often somewhere there.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
63. Here is that and more.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 07:27 PM
Jun 2021
Then, I checked my phone, and shook my head. I finally regained some internet as I was walking away from City Hall shortly after the rally ended. Right before my battery died, I learned about what Killer Mike did.

The Atlanta rapper had pre-recorded a segment for NRATV, the National Rifle Association’s broadcast outlet, in which he argued strongly for gun rights. The video went online during the March.
Killer Mike, half of the fierce hip-hop tag team Run the Jewels, filmed a pre-recorded chat with NRATV host Collins Iyare Idehen Jr. (who is also black, hence the stage name “Colion Noir”). In the video, Idehen added an introduction to the video directly challenging the March organizers. “What are you really marching for?” said the host, apparently unable to discern that from the event’s title. “Because from where I’m standing, it looks like a march to burn the Constitution and rewrite the parts you don’t like in crayon.” Idehen’s corny screed set the tone for a conversation in which both he and Mike question the “wokeness” of black gun control advocates and show condescension for the hundreds of thousands of marchers who took to the American streets. It was less an interview than it was propaganda for the NRA, arguably the most powerful political organization outside of the criminal justice system that works consistently to create societal acceptance of untimely black death.



snip

Mike proudly recounted how he forbade his children to participate in National Walkout Day, saying that, “If you walk out that school, walk out my house.” Killer Mike even finds space to give caustic NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch some dap, buying into her February CPAC remarks about the media not caring about black gun victims, as if the NRA is scheduling town halls on Chicago’s West Side for families grieving loved ones lost to gun violence. It was nauseating to watch Mike lend his legitimacy with black audiences to an organization that exploits racial anxiety in order to encourage white people to buy more guns.


More:https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/what-the-kids-got-right-and-killer-mike-got-wrong-205306/

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
81. Which record label (corporation) does "Big Mike" work for, making his money?
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:56 PM
Jun 2021

Which music distributor (corporation) puts his music out there, making him money?

I know "Big Mike" isn't a candidate here, but he certainly seems to be a surrogate for Turner.

brush

(53,787 posts)
36. Killer Mike is an idiot. Clyburn is the reason Biden is in the WH and Dems...
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 11:59 PM
Jun 2021

control the House and Senate. So sick of these alleged Dems blasting Dems for actually being successful.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,321 posts)
55. Nina ran sanders South Carolina operation which was a major disaster
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:34 AM
Jun 2021

It appears that Nina holds a grudge with respect to her failed South Carolina operation


MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
71. Well Sanders campaign was a disaster in general.
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 09:42 AM
Jun 2021

The consequences of which we will be living with for generations to come.

He made it fashionable to assault the party from within.


 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
68. Now we hate Representative Lieu?
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 02:19 AM
Jun 2021

I think he is one of our better Congresspeople and will allow him to support who he wants to support.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,321 posts)
72. Do you approve of the statements made by that Mike idiot and Nina Turner regarding Rep. Clyburn?
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 01:30 PM
Jun 2021

Ted Lieu will be asked about these comments and his judgment in supporting a non-democrat who voted for Jill Sein and tried to help TFG win re-election should be questioned


 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
74. I think it is demonstrably untrue...
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 02:48 PM
Jun 2021

that Rep. Clyburn is stupid. Somehow that hasn't turned into me thinking Rep. Lieu needs to explain his endorsement or take responsibility for what Nina Turner or Killer Mike say.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,321 posts)
75. Lieu is endorsing a non-Democrat who voted and campaigned for Jill Stein
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 03:56 PM
Jun 2021

Rep. Clyburn is the reason Joe Is the nominee of the party and Nina was in charge of sanders’ South Carolina campaign that was so bad that is was funny. The comments of Nina on that encounter are sad and the comments of the Mike idiot are disgusting. Lieu needs to clarify if he agrees with these comments.

Lieu will be asked about this endorsement and these comments It will be interesting to see how Lieu answer these questions


George II

(67,782 posts)
76. There's also the half bowl caper AND that Turner refused to vote for the Democrat in '16 & '21.
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 04:25 PM
Jun 2021

That's three strikes in my book.

Shontel Brown has zero strikes.

jml510

(10,893 posts)
69. As a Californian,
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 04:42 AM
Jun 2021

I'm disappointed in Lieu and Porter for getting behind someone who not only backed a 3rd party candidate last election cycle, but has openly expressed contempt towards our party and the leader of it. I expected them to know better.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
70. I can't support anyone who compares Biden to a "bowl of shit" or who supports Jill Fucking Stein...
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 09:26 AM
Jun 2021

I can't support anyone who compares Biden to a "bowl of shit" or who supports Jill Fucking Stein... AND I have nothing but disappointment and contempt for anyone who believes that the things she does or says is appropriate. Politicians who have endorsed her have soiled their reputations. Fact of the matter is that Nina is NOT A FRIEND of the Democratic Party or Biden or Hillary. She says and does divisive things that only weaken and fracture the party.

I'm not at all surprised that this "bowl of shit" is being presented by and promoted by TYT.

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