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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 09:16 AM Jun 2021

May: Trump plans to restore his Boeing 757 for future rallies

Just as soon as he can find someone who will extend him some credit.

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Trump plans to restore his 'beautiful' Boeing 757 with Rolls-Royce engines and new paint job for future rallies

Tyler Sonnemaker May 21, 2021, 9:54 PM

Donald Trump said Friday that he's fixing his private Boeing 757 and will use it for future rallies.

• Trump said the plane will get Rolls-Royce engines and a new paint job.

• The plane, dubbed "Trump Force One," has been sitting broken and unused in upstate New York.

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Former President Donald Trump announced in a press release Friday that he's fixing his private plane ahead of future rallies. ... "Many people have asked about the beautiful Boeing 757 that became so iconic during the Trump rallies," Trump said. "It is now being fully restored and updated and will be put back into service sometime prior to the end of the year."

Trump's Boeing 757, informally nicknamed "Trump Force One," has been parked at Stewart International Airport in New Windsor, New York, unused since President Joe Biden's Inauguration.

CNN previously reported that one of the plane's pricey Rolls Royce RB211 Turbofan engines was broken and had been removed from the plane awaiting repairs, which could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Trump said the plane will soon be brought to a service facility in Louisiana for inspection and repairs, including updated Rolls-Royce engines, as well as a new paint job.

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May: Trump plans to restore his Boeing 757 for future rallies (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 OP
It'll never happen. MontanaMama Jun 2021 #1
"Two weeks" zuul Jun 2021 #9
Yeah, not gonna happen... Hugin Jun 2021 #14
he can pay for it with campaign funds drray23 Jun 2021 #25
The last part of what you say is my theory as to why the cowpatty has hit the campaign trail. Hugin Jun 2021 #29
Given debt and the fact that TFG had to refund a ton of donations, TFG cannot afford this plane LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #32
unless he can get someone else to pay for it. bullimiami Jun 2021 #15
That was my first thought, too. Diamond_Dog Jun 2021 #21
Trump Corp's assets will be highly "locked up" in future weeks I'd predict. We'll see. hlthe2b Jun 2021 #19
He will need that plane to flee the country. ZonkerHarris Jun 2021 #51
ALL HAT NO TURBINE n/t ChubbyStar Jun 2021 #41
And he'll be snowybirdie Jun 2021 #2
"... will be put back into service sometime prior to the end of the year." area51 Jun 2021 #3
If it is fixed up gab13by13 Jun 2021 #4
Maybe he's actually fixing it while he still has some funds to do so Siwsan Jun 2021 #5
Who's paying for it? marble falls Jun 2021 #6
Mexico. multigraincracker Jun 2021 #10
DUzy!!!!! Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2021 #26
shithole's cult. . . Lovie777 Jun 2021 #11
That's why the recurring donation box is automatically pre-checked. tanyev Jun 2021 #12
"Who's paying for it?" Suckers I doubt that it will be fixed up this is just one more con by ... Botany Jun 2021 #13
these people are the absolute trash of the country, aren't they? Takket Jun 2021 #22
They really are. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #42
We are the majority .... never forget Botany Jun 2021 #44
Yeah, but: How To Win The Presidency With 23 Percent Of The Popular Vote mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #45
The people he grifts from. nt GoodRaisin Jun 2021 #40
Rubes. Lots of rubes. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2021 #52
That'll cost a pretty penny MissB Jun 2021 #7
Isn't it a business expense? LiberalArkie Jun 2021 #20
It will be a "campaign expense." Chainfire Jun 2021 #28
How is the plant getting to louisiana without that engine? sboatcar Jun 2021 #8
I was wondering about that treestar Jun 2021 #16
Notice that he is not buying American and using the Pratt & Whitney PW2000 engines Klaralven Jun 2021 #17
But he gets to say "Rolls-Royce" and the MAGAts say "Oooh! Classy & Expensive!" hatrack Jun 2021 #38
But but but why would he need that old plane malaise Jun 2021 #18
+1. Oh, yeah! NCjack Jun 2021 #24
Broke ass can't afford to fix the plane. marmar Jun 2021 #23
Well, if this isn't as clear as the nose on your face, I don't know what is. Vinca Jun 2021 #27
Here is a new theory to thrust upon the true believers: Chainfire Jun 2021 #30
I can see those glazed expressions now Prof. Toru Tanaka Jun 2021 #36
Private Plane Infrastructure Week - Your Contributions Accepted!! hatrack Jun 2021 #31
If you haven't been paying attention onethatcares Jun 2021 #33
"Sir..." Totally Tunsie Jun 2021 #48
"Trump Force One" is why women have sued him for assault. nt Ilsa Jun 2021 #34
He would sabbat hunter Jun 2021 #35
well his suckers llashram Jun 2021 #37
Trump Force One? Excuse me for a minute... Initech Jun 2021 #39
"Trump Force One" smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #43
Sale and lease back? Mopar151 Jun 2021 #46
They'll hang a rented engine on it to get it to Louisiana nt Mopar151 Jun 2021 #47
Good luck with that! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2021 #49
Repair shop should get the money up front ZonkerHarris Jun 2021 #50
He will try to make the RNC and other Republican candidates and orgs pay for a new private plane JI7 Jun 2021 #53
If he fixes it, it will be worth more when the IRS seizes it... Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #54

Hugin

(33,163 posts)
14. Yeah, not gonna happen...
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 09:44 AM
Jun 2021

Annual operating costs:


Pricing
Depending on numerous factors, the average price for a pre-owned BOEING 757-200ER is $20,000,000.00. A $10,000,000.00 loan over 120 months including $41666.67 per month in interest equates to a $501,437.15 per-period payment. Based on 450 annual owner-operated hours and $4.25-per-gallon fuel cost, the BOEING 757-200ER has total variable costs of $3,039,952.50, total fixed costs of $414,150.00, and an annual budget of $3,454,102.50. This breaks down to $7,675.78 per hour."



That's for a 757 generating revenue... Tangerine Idi Amin's is 100% liability.

From: https://www.aircraftcostcalculator.com/AircraftOperatingCosts/382/Boeing+757-200ER

TFG is going to have to sell a lot of red hats.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
25. he can pay for it with campaign funds
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:18 AM
Jun 2021

that's probably his plan. He is restarting his rallies and donations. He thinks this will bring him money and somehow shield him from litigation because he is betting the doj won't want to appear to interfere during elections.

Hugin

(33,163 posts)
29. The last part of what you say is my theory as to why the cowpatty has hit the campaign trail.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:38 AM
Jun 2021

Real sudden like...

He believes (and maybe partially correctly) that while he's campaigning, he's 'immune' from Federal prosecution. It entirely fits his delay delay delay until the heat blows over MO that he and his lawyers have established over the last 50 years. It gives them an argument, anyway.

On top of that, he's got an entire syndicate... uh, I mean, organization and a few deer-in-the-headlights kids and assorted relatives to throw to the ravening prosecutors in a serial manner to delay things even further.

This is his Hail Mary and it is probably enough to ensure he'll die unindicted without spending a single night in jail.

Nice little justice system we've got set up here.



LetMyPeopleVote

(145,321 posts)
32. Given debt and the fact that TFG had to refund a ton of donations, TFG cannot afford this plane
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 11:33 AM
Jun 2021


trump has close to $1 billion of debt either currently due or which will become due soon

Diamond_Dog

(32,006 posts)
21. That was my first thought, too.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:09 AM
Jun 2021

He’s always blabbering about how he’s going to do this or that, and none of it ever happens.

area51

(11,910 posts)
3. "... will be put back into service sometime prior to the end of the year."
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 09:22 AM
Jun 2021

Maybe at the same time he finally releases his "wonderful" healthcare plan?

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
4. If it is fixed up
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 09:24 AM
Jun 2021

it won't be his money and he won't own it. It will be like most of his buildings, he will only own the name.

Siwsan

(26,268 posts)
5. Maybe he's actually fixing it while he still has some funds to do so
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 09:25 AM
Jun 2021

Forgive the lack of documentation, but I did read that if the trump* corporation is charged with crimes, it could suck up every cent he, and possibly even his kids, have left. At least as it relates to trump* company finances. Not sure if Ivanka and her husband have totally separate investments, unrelated to anything trump*.

Lovie777

(12,278 posts)
11. shithole's cult. . .
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 09:38 AM
Jun 2021

his rallies are nothing but money grabbing and to keep the spirit of hatred, fear, racist and violence alive and well.

Hate tv and radio are on a roll for violence against any opposition.

Some RW newspaper was mailed to my residence. I read a few articles and it was horrible. It's main goal, hate and mistrust the government.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
13. "Who's paying for it?" Suckers I doubt that it will be fixed up this is just one more con by ...
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jun 2021

Last edited Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:13 AM - Edit history (1)

.... Don the Con.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
45. Yeah, but: How To Win The Presidency With 23 Percent Of The Popular Vote
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 03:11 PM
Jun 2021
How To Win The Presidency With 23 Percent Of The Popular Vote

November 2, 2016 6:00 AM ET

{snip}

Long story short: To win the presidency, you don't have to win the majority of the popular vote. You have to win the majority of electoral votes — that is, 270 of them.* In most states, a candidate wins electoral votes by winning the most voters.

So. Win a state by just one vote, and you win all of its electoral votes (unless you live in Nebraska or Maine, which divvy up their votes a little differently).

This can lead to off-kilter election results — in 2000, for example, Democrat Al Gore won the popular vote by a few hundred thousand votes, but lost the presidency by five electoral votes. So we wondered: Just how few votes would a candidate need to win 270 electoral votes?

We decided to find out. A candidate only needs to win the 11 states with the most electoral votes to hit 270. Assuming only two candidates (a big assumption; see below) and that one candidate won all of those states by just one vote, and then didn't win a single vote in any of the other states (or D.C.), how many votes would that candidate have to win? It depends on how you do the math. Either way, it's far less than half.

{snip}

How To Win An Election With 23 Percent Of The Vote

Starting from the smallest-electoral-vote states, a candidate could have won the presidency in 2012 with only around 23 percent of the popular vote.

{snip the chart}

The idea here is that a voter in a low-population state like Wyoming counts for a larger share of electoral votes than popular votes.

And if one were to start with the largest states, it would be 27 percent. Here's a look at that math:

How To Win An Election With 27 Percent Of The Vote

The below 11 states, combined, would give a candidate 270 electoral votes — just over 50 percent of that total and, therefore, enough to win the election (given a two-person race). However, they also together made up only around 27 percent of the popular vote in the 2012 election.

{snip another chart}

MissB

(15,810 posts)
7. That'll cost a pretty penny
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 09:31 AM
Jun 2021

Likely millions. Who is paying?

Maintenance on large planes like that doesn’t come cheap.

sboatcar

(415 posts)
8. How is the plant getting to louisiana without that engine?
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 09:33 AM
Jun 2021

Does he think he can just have it towed or something?

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
27. Well, if this isn't as clear as the nose on your face, I don't know what is.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:34 AM
Jun 2021

Totally rehabbed plane for political rallies = campaign expense. Campaign expense = the suckers pay for it via donations. End result = the Con-In-Chief has a new plane for free.

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
30. Here is a new theory to thrust upon the true believers:
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:38 AM
Jun 2021

Since Trump really "Won" the past Presidential election, he is ineligible to run for a third term.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,967 posts)
36. I can see those glazed expressions now
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 12:36 PM
Jun 2021

as the hamsters double-time it on the wheels processing that thought.

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
33. If you haven't been paying attention
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 12:06 PM
Jun 2021

A guy, a big burly guy with tears running down his bewhiskered cheeks told him while sobbing, that he would be glad to rebuild the plane with his own funds if he could just unload the massive amount of toilet paper he has stockpiled in his garage.

sabbat hunter

(6,829 posts)
35. He would
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 12:32 PM
Jun 2021

have to actually pay for the repairs. He never pays. Just ask Ghouliani. Or contractors that have been left holding the bag.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
37. well his suckers
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 12:42 PM
Jun 2021

are sending him and his grifting family and 'friends' enough to do this very thing...does anyone here think he is continuing his big lie and by formality, NOT conceding for any other reason?

Mopar151

(9,986 posts)
46. Sale and lease back?
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 03:26 PM
Jun 2021

Engines are often leased separate from the plane. Did he ever own the plane/engines outright?

It might be possible to recover a lot of the operating costs by flying charters, but it would require some "adulting" by TFG.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
53. He will try to make the RNC and other Republican candidates and orgs pay for a new private plane
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 01:40 AM
Jun 2021

and all the costs associated with it.

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