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joetheman

(1,450 posts)
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:14 AM Jun 2021

Fareed let us Dems have it right between the eyes this morning on his opening.

I think, rightly so. You have only to look at what happened in 2016 and what ushered in the Trump era that does not seem to be going away.

Will we push Biden to the brink and lose what gains we have made so far? If the same ardent progressives that wanted more, better, and faster in 2016 do not get out and vote in higher numbers than in 2020, our future looks really dim. If we don't give in order to get our voting rights legislation passed, infrastructure bills and environmental bills will mean very little for the salvation of democracy as we imagined it. I love our progressive brothers and sisters but they must learn to love us back. Right now it doesn't seem they do.

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Fareed let us Dems have it right between the eyes this morning on his opening. (Original Post) joetheman Jun 2021 OP
Absolutely. I'm eagerly awaiting for the schmidt to hit the fan. Firestorm49 Jun 2021 #1
I'm very liberal. Progressive isn't as liberal as I am. ananda Jun 2021 #2
Fareed was spot on. BlueLucy Jun 2021 #3
Pelosi said herself that the bipartisan bill won't be sent to Biden without 2nd reconciliation bill Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #4
Punch the left for not loving the center enough? aocommunalpunch Jun 2021 #5

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
1. Absolutely. I'm eagerly awaiting for the schmidt to hit the fan.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:24 AM
Jun 2021

If it means passing a motion to bypass the filibuster in this case, as Republicans have done in the past, so be it. As was stated, too much is at stake. Voting rights should be priority one.

ananda

(28,866 posts)
2. I'm very liberal. Progressive isn't as liberal as I am.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:25 AM
Jun 2021

We really do need to fight for the vote and then
get the vote out!

Period.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,623 posts)
4. Pelosi said herself that the bipartisan bill won't be sent to Biden without 2nd reconciliation bill
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jun 2021

And the Progessive caucus will strip out the bullshit (selling off roads and bridges) in the bipartisan bill. If the senate GOP rebels against the conference committee amendments to the bipartisan bill, then the whole thing passes via reconciliation.

Manchin is on board, Sinema, as much as she loves attention, does not want to be the lightning rod for the failure of this package.

Schumer will likely use the nuclear option for change the filibuster rule to Manchin’s proposal (41 senators present, speaking continuously), in order to pass Manchin’s proposed revision to S1.

Democrats should never take advice from Fareed Zakaria.

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