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Both QAnon and longtime supporters of former President Donald Trump criticized his Saturday night speech in Wellington, Ohio, accusing him of the "same-old, same-old" grievances against Democrats and his 2020 election loss to President Joe Biden.
QAnon supporters, some of whom are the former president's most fanatical online backers, sent a barrage of messages through the Telegram app that expressed boredom and even anger at the speech Trump described as "the very first rally of the 2022 election." They blasted Trump for not mentioning how his January 6 insurrection supporters are "rotting in jail." And numerous others said Trump should be booed by the Ohio rallygoers for even "bringing up the word 'vaccine,'" specifically because they believe COVID-19 was entirely a hoax.
But a majority of the top QAnon user comments simply expressed their outright boredom with Trump's post-election stump speech, in which he baselessly claimed to have won in November 2020 and blasted any dissenting GOP members as "traitors."
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what the fuck is WRONG with these people, Donald NEVER FUCKING CHANGES, HE DOESN'T EVOLVE, JUST LIKE HIS BRAIN-DEAD FANS
tanyev
(42,564 posts)whos ever supported him. The only question was whether the country could hang on long enough for that number to reach the tipping point.
malaise
(269,044 posts)It is they who will turn on him - take that to the bank
Mz Pip
(27,449 posts)Hes been giving the same grievance filled speech for years.
Initech
(100,080 posts)Justice matters.
(6,930 posts)GoodRaisin
(8,924 posts)He's a one trick pony. I guess some of them are finally realizing his trick is on them.
hlthe2b
(102,289 posts)Chipping away at the cult is still progress.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)NJCher
(35,684 posts)That's gonna' be tough! He's pretty much covered all the bases including Hispanic children.
albacore
(2,399 posts)MetalMama
(83 posts)and a leftist thanks for the chuckle.
I would be happy to be hated by Trump.
efhmc
(14,726 posts)And lots of other American presidents.
Blue Owl
(50,402 posts)brooklynite
(94,591 posts)The summer is full of concerts with has-been artists playing their old favorites to their loyal followers.
soldierant
(6,880 posts)People are still listining to GRreensleeves" - and not just at Christmas, either.
I am assuming that when you say "has-been" you imply "once-was" which in turn implies quality for the old hits. So they'd be listenable still.
TOT is more of a "never-was."
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)Complaining now about his rally speeches is just plain silly. On the bright side, this may be the beginning of him losing his base.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)not even seen a picture of his ugly mug up on the stage
I look forward to not even knowing TFG (has-been) even had some meaningless 'rally'.
That day will be soon, mark it down.
paleotn
(17,930 posts)Oh...sorry. I forgot. These are complete morons were talking about here.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Too Fucking Late.
thucythucy
(8,069 posts)who, after drinking the Koolaid, began to have second thoughts.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)And you obviously don't know the story.
There were guards with weapons surrounding them, and forcing parents to give the drink to their children.
Some drank it willingly, but most didn't. They had No choice in the matter.
thucythucy
(8,069 posts)And I did know that many were coerced into drinking the Koolaid, but some weren't.
So I guess the answer then is "yes" people must have had all kinds of second thoughts. I suppose that finding yourself in a situation where you're being forced to murder your child is a definite sign that you may have made some less than perfect decisions at some point down the road.
lame54
(35,293 posts)So yes, they wanted out
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)As in, physically force. Many did not want to drink it.
thucythucy
(8,069 posts)came at the end of a long chain of other decisions.
Did people force them at gunpoint to join the church? To stay in it?
Granted, this is what cults do: compromise the autonomy of the inducted. But what about moving to Giana, and for the parents, choosing to bring their children? How involved a process must that have been? Obtaining passports and airline tickets, passing through an American airport where surely armed security couldn't have forced them past the gates and onto the plane. All along the way there must have been mulitiple decision points where a person had more or less to choose--do I go along with this or do I finally bolt to escape?
Similarly, it's been five years since The Slobfather became so dominant in GOP politics. What he is has been apparent all along. The people who remain loyal have had very many opportunities to re-evaluate their support, and yet here they are.
It's not a perfect analogy, I'll grant you, no analogy ever is. But it has certainly crossed my mind and others on more than one occasion.
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)Apparently not.
Escurumbele
(3,395 posts)rallies...not soon enough though.
Has anyone looked behind trump? Does he have a string and that is why he repeats the same stupidity over and over?
lame54
(35,293 posts)Trump's material was shit to begin with
BarbD
(1,193 posts)Now they're in jail awaiting trials and sentencing and Donnie isn't even trying to raise money for their defense.
Disappointed? Who is going to pick up the torch? Marjorie Taylor Greene?
AZLD4Candidate
(5,698 posts)DOES actually have a shelf life.
tavernier
(12,392 posts)Laughter is the best medicine.
keithbvadu2
(36,823 posts)Breaking: "Q" is persona non grata at Trump's rally.....
It seems like no Q clothing, paraphernalia, or sales.
patphil
(6,180 posts)Jeez, we got tired of their same old same old long ago.
Mr. Evil
(2,845 posts)millions of people can be so easily duped into worshiping an obese orange blob that never mentally or emotionally matured beyond the age of 12. Working class people devoted to a spoiled rotten rich kid from New York City. The only guess I can muster is that they actually believed that he was going to get rid of all THOSE people and they'd automatically, overnight become rich.
ScratchCat
(1,990 posts)He went on Fox News and entertained their fantasy that Barack Obama was the secret manchurian candidate sent to steal America from white people and that was all it took. Because he did that, they'd pretend to believe anything he said. It is that simple.
DAngelo136
(265 posts)Have seen this tired act for years. He was done in 80's, especially after the divorce from Ivana. He came off badly with the press.
What he didn't realize was that HE was a creature of the press. They made him and they ultimately turned on him and destroyed him. It was Mark Burnett who resurrected him from the scrap heap and gave him "The Apprentice" which remade his image as a successful businessman.
But he's never changed; he's the same person he's always been. And as we all know now, he never intended to win the Presidential election. The perfect storm of Republican incompetence, Evangelical Christian personality cult worship, medial sensationalism (Les Moonves, head of CBS said that he may not be good for the country but he was good for CBS) and an opposing candidate who may have been competent but personally unpopular. And let's face it, Hillary Clinton ran a bad campaign (She took too many things for granted).
He is who he is and he has exposed the underbelly of this country. "We have met the enemy, and he is us", said Pogo the hedgehog. https://time.com/5098415/the-unpresident-why-donald-trump-will-never-change/
And your sig line says it all.
betsuni
(25,537 posts)And was a horrible candidate. Hillary wasn't a bad candidate. People voted for Trump because they loved his anti-establishment populism, racism and sexism. Then they didn't care when he went along with every establishment Republican policy. He got away with the worst things, while the press pounded away at fictional Clinton corruption and nitpick everything she said while simultaneously criticizing her for being cautious around the press.
The most ridiculous reason given is if only Hillary had more rallies she would've won. Joe Biden didn't have a lot of rallies, didn't have a lot of money, didn't have people knocking on doors. He won. Rallies are not why people vote. There were other populist candidates with large rallies who claimed to be very popular but didn't win, rallies don't always mean votes.
The polling was correct in 2016: "But overall, national polls in 2016 were slightly more accurate than they were in 2012. That year, the final polling average understated President Obama's actual victory by 3.1 points. In 2016, according to the website RealClearPolitics, the final average was off by by just 1.2 points. ... So no, the polls weren't wrong." From "What Happened."
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/02/why-im-defending-hillary-clinton-commentary.html
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)NO ONE runs a perfect campaign.
She ran a good campaign.
This country just is that fucking stupid and mean.
I told people that when he came down the escalator. He was a REAL threat to win the R nomination because he was what that party was becoming, and if he did, this country was absolutely stupid enough to make him POTUS because it just can't stop indulging the both siderism bullshit.
End of the day, Hillary is a highly competent, decent public servant and he is a completely immoral deranged would be dictator.
A country does not vote for the second because the first "took things for granted." The choice was FAR too clear.
This country did not elect the lunatic because she didn't campaign endlessly in Wisconsin (she put a LOT of time and resources in PA and still lost).
The country voted for a lunatic because 1/3 of the country full on wants a chrisofascist authoritarian state and another 1/3 of the country wants to think the people who believe in democracy are somehow just as flawed as the people who hate it.
betsuni
(25,537 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)betsuni
(25,537 posts)As if Trump won by an extremely slim margin in swing states because of a fabulous campaign, was a great candidate.
brush
(53,784 posts)11 days before the election when she was way ahead in the polls, and also that news conference he had in the summer before the election where found no fault but excoriated her anyway?
And btw, she won the popular vote and there's still much doubt about trump's alleged win in three states by a total o 77k votes, just enough to win EC votes.
efhmc
(14,726 posts)efhmc
(14,726 posts)an opossum.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)You can't expect your fascist loving audiences to stay mad at the same ol' boring shit time after time! Mix it up! Throw in some anti-Semitism, throw in a little misogyny for goodness sake! You can't keep going to the "I really won the election" well, and whining. Get some new material dude!!
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)Every drug fails, eventually.